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2013 Vuelta a Espana - Week 3 (8th September - 15th September)
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| ppanther |
Posted on 16-09-2013 13:21
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Blueprint wrote:
..., but if rider A is 10 minutes slower than rider B, it doesn't prove to me that rider A is not doping and rider B is.
QFT!!!
But König isn't particular suspicious in my book. Was always considered very talented, but had a lot of problems with injuries.
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| ruben |
Posted on 16-09-2013 13:21
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kumazan wrote:
And why didn't the RS guys tell the testers where he was instead of letting them go to a wrong 2nd hotel? Still as unbelievable as the rest of the last 3 weeks. there is even email proof of Horner changing the whereabouts yesterday before the stage.
Testers didn't even check that. So obviously testers mistake.
The 'he wasn't in a 2nd hotel story' was made up by press |
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 16-09-2013 13:36
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ppanther wrote:
Blueprint wrote:
..., but if rider A is 10 minutes slower than rider B, it doesn't prove to me that rider A is not doping and rider B is.
QFT!!!
But König isn't particular suspicious in my book. Was always considered very talented, but had a lot of problems with injuries.
That's why I wrote "not saying that he doped". I like König, doesn't make sense for me to burn him down. The only truly suspicious things I saw in the Vuelta were Pozzovivo's time trial (but he was far from exceptional in the mountains) and, well... good old Horner. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 16-09-2013 13:51
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 16-09-2013 13:55
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Wow, it increased from 2011 to 2012. I wonder what happened to that happen. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 16-09-2013 14:13
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[/quote] but König only gets praise for his surprising 9th place? Seems rather arbitrary to me.[/quote]
What was surprising about Konig finishing 9th?
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/ |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 16-09-2013 14:30
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ruben wrote:
kumazan wrote:
And why didn't the RS guys tell the testers where he was instead of letting them go to a wrong 2nd hotel? Still as unbelievable as the rest of the last 3 weeks. there is even email proof of Horner changing the whereabouts yesterday before the stage.
Testers didn't even check that. So obviously testers mistake.
The 'he wasn't in a 2nd hotel story' was made up by press
Actually, the testers did check at a 2nd hotel, but this was randomly picked... |
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 16-09-2013 14:44
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In their and Horner's defense, Leopard Trek have posted with proof that Horner had changed address and informed USADA.
https://www.radios...ters-wrong
It was just over-hype by Spanish media, I guess. |
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| Dippofix |
Posted on 16-09-2013 14:54
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Typical Tester fail, don't even bother checking their files. 
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 16-09-2013 15:35
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Edited by ianrussell on 16-09-2013 15:36
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| superider2010 |
Posted on 16-09-2013 16:34
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phones doesn't work in spain? nobody from his team has his number?
i don't blame that guys,even if they are dummies
i never heard of cyclist that can't wait to be tested,all want to run far away
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 16-09-2013 16:40
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ianrussell wrote:
I did think that too from seeing the Rendell interviews with Horner on the weekend. When asked about it, he was more interested in answering his own questions - and kept going on about how he thought the Vuelta had been a great race to watch, and how everyone at home should be happy to have witnessed such a 'great achievement' (He certainly isn't modest). He avoided actually saying that he was clean, which doesnt really mean anything, but is quite interesting when compared to how other riders answer those questions.
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| BritPCMFan |
Posted on 16-09-2013 16:43
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No, he changed his hotel and his number and all contact details early morning on sunday, so presumably the number they had was the old one and hense inactive.
Offices don't really work weekends though. Its clever as hell really. You get the autobot reply (which is what the reply to email is) and therefore cover you ass in the full knowledge that its highly unlikely anyone will see the email before your gone.
Its the same old trick. Don't matter if i'm doped, you still have to prove it and I'll just play all the rules so you can't. Its a bit a mess up by the testers but its not a hard one to make. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 16-09-2013 17:07
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SportingNonsense wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
I did think that too from seeing the Rendell interviews with Horner on the weekend. When asked about it, he was more interested in answering his own questions - and kept going on about how he thought the Vuelta had been a great race to watch, and how everyone at home should be happy to have witnessed such a 'great achievement' (He certainly isn't modest). He avoided actually saying that he was clean, which doesnt really mean anything, but is quite interesting when compared to how other riders answer those questions.
Would be interesting to watch as the body language often gives you an even better insight. Should probably take a look at ITV player I guess.
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| MrTeamSky |
Posted on 16-09-2013 17:14
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Chris Horner is clearly on drugs. He's 42 and has won a grand tour. That has drugs written all over it.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 16-09-2013 17:27
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I'm laughing so hard right now at the Team Sky fanboys criticizing Horner after defending Froome
Edited by issoisso on 16-09-2013 17:27
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 16-09-2013 17:33
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issoisso wrote:
I'm laughing so hard right now at the Team Sky fanboys criticizing Horner after defending Froome
That can be explained by blind nationalism. What about those that still believe in fairytales and think both are clean?
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 16-09-2013 17:48
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A very interesting title goes to the article in the Jornal A Bola. The title for Horner's article is: "Wanted Horner".
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 16-09-2013 17:50
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am I the only one who thinks we need a CLINIC thread so we can post all doping related things?. seems every race theres more post about doping than anything else . |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 16-09-2013 17:51
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deek12345 wrote:
am I the only one who thinks we need a CLINIC thread so we can post all doping related things?. seems every race theres more post about doping than anything else .
I'm pretty shore someone already sugested that and isso answered there was already one and let's say according to him it wasn't the best idea. Correct me if I'm wrong isso. |
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