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| Bikex |
Posted on 30-08-2013 10:59
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Tour of Austria winner Riccardo Zoidl apparently to Team Trek next year. I was hoping to see him in World Tour soon, but I don't really like the team choice... |
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| ShortsNL |
Posted on 30-08-2013 11:08
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Not neccessarily. Since Frändy will probably only care about the Tour again, Zoidl might get his chances at a Giro or Vuelta. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 30-08-2013 12:00
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Trek will be lucky if he gets any results. Numerous dominant continental riders suddenly turned average again with a big contract. Fischer, Peccharoman, Tiernan-Locke.. |
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| Hazard10 |
Posted on 30-08-2013 13:40
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Spilak23 wrote:
Trek will be lucky if he gets any results. Numerous dominant continental riders suddenly turned average again with a big contract. Fischer, Peccharoman, Tiernan-Locke..
JTL this year had lots of health problems, I believe if he was healthy all year, he could do some nice stuff.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 30-08-2013 13:50
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Hazard10 wrote:
JTL this year had lots of health problems, I believe if he was healthy all year, he could do some nice stuff.
Do you have a source for that?
All I've heard is that he has found the training too hard since making the jump to WT level.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 30-08-2013 13:52
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Hazard10 wrote:
JTL this year had lots of health problems, I believe if he was healthy all year, he could do some nice stuff.
Do you have a source for that?
All I've heard is that he has found the training too hard since making the jump to WT level.
Well, Pelli, he went to Sky, Sky do's "hard training", am I going to say that he didn't want to do "hard training"? |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 30-08-2013 13:57
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Hazard10 wrote:
JTL this year had lots of health problems, I believe if he was healthy all year, he could do some nice stuff.
Do you have a source for that?
All I've heard is that he has found the training too hard since making the jump to WT level.
I'm interested too, for example all I could find was this from about a week ago:
https://thetour.co...iCWgz-Zl8E
"The over training had been a long time thing. I was doing similar volume to what I have always done, and I have always done a fair amount, but there was so much intensity and in a new way as well."
"I was getting more and more fatigued. I was used to going into races fresh and riding well off the confidence that you are feeling good and once that is gone, you start to lose your self-esteem as a bike rider.
"Whilst I have learnt a lot this year, physically I haven't improved as I expected. Every year for the past few years, I have got a bit better each one, got my weight to a good place, got my training right by tweaking a few things here and there and being more professional in a lot of ways.
"Physically though this year, I haven't improved and more likely taken a step backwards just from being tired and training in a different way. At the start of the year with the coach, we were looking at improving this area and that area but I ended up losing what I was good at, that punchy ability, whilst trying to focus on something I 'm not very good at like my non-climbing etc.
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Posted on 30-08-2013 14:08
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I ended up losing what I was good at, that punchy ability, whilst trying to focus on something I'm not very good at like my non-climbing etc.
Typical Sky. |
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Posted on 30-08-2013 14:13
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Is it too early to say that Sky screws over half of the rider's that come in to the team? |
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Posted on 30-08-2013 14:26
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Miguel98 wrote:
Is it too early to say that Sky screws over half of the rider's that come in to the team?
I find it more curious that a team which supposedly prides itself on attention to detail and absolute numerical exactness would allow one of their riders to overtrain.
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 30-08-2013 15:27
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Marginal overtraining. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 30-08-2013 15:31
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CountArach wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Is it too early to say that Sky screws over half of the rider's that come in to the team?
I find it more curious that a team which supposedly prides itself on attention to detail and absolute numerical exactness would allow one of their riders to overtrain.
I find it even more curious that they did that to a British rider. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 30-08-2013 15:45
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Spilak23 wrote:
Trek will be lucky if he gets any results. Numerous dominant continental riders suddenly turned average again with a big contract. Fischer, Peccharoman, Tiernan-Locke..
Right, but numerous have also done quite well on the WT level. You cant just say he will be lucky if he gets any results at all. He's young and doing very well this year. I mean even if he doesn't do that great next year I still think he's got a fair bit of potential which makes the signing worth it in itself.
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 30-08-2013 17:07
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Bulgac, Bellemakers, Reynes, De Greef and Van de Walle have to leave Lotto-Belisol. Probably Van Leijen has to leave as well. (We already knew about Reynes because he already signed at IAM)
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-08-2013 17:10
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CountArach wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Is it too early to say that Sky screws over half of the rider's that come in to the team?
I find it more curious that a team which supposedly prides itself on attention to detail and absolute numerical exactness would allow one of their riders to overtrain.
Sky's 'Attention to detail' as justification for great performances is absolute horseshit. The amount of times they excuse something with 'we didn't know' is staggering.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 30-08-2013 17:29
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MrUfo87 wrote:
Bulgac, Bellemakers, Reynes, De Greef and Van de Walle have to leave Lotto-Belisol. Probably Van Leijen has to leave as well. (We already knew about Reynes because he already signed at IAM)
But how will they survive without getting 20th place at every GT?
Seriously though I hope De Greef finds another team fairly quickly.
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 30-08-2013 18:25
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MrUfo87 wrote:
Bulgac, Bellemakers, Reynes, De Greef and Van de Walle have to leave Lotto-Belisol. Probably Van Leijen has to leave as well. (We already knew about Reynes because he already signed at IAM)
De Greef surprises me really. Very good domestique who can also climb a bit, I don't see someone in the team who could replace him really. Gallopin maybe if he doesn't mind giving up his own chances for someone else from time to time. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 30-08-2013 20:15
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CountArach wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Is it too early to say that Sky screws over half of the rider's that come in to the team?
I find it more curious that a team which supposedly prides itself on attention to detail and absolute numerical exactness would allow one of their riders to overtrain.
Power and numbers are one thing, but no one serious would separate it from a rider's feelings (wait, bots have no feelings whatsoever).
See most tests or studies about training or efforts. There's the intensity (measurable in numbers), the length of course, but also the perceived difficulty. Google Borg scale or "RSE" for more on that topic.
Normally all riders with a training diary should keep track of how their fatigue and morale evolves (low morale goes along with fatigue). Over training is something you can see coming from a distance. When you're a proper coach at least...
Also, it takes a good knowledge of the rider to know you'll be able to change his speciality. It's not supposed to be easy (except if, erm...), so you'd better be sure. Normally a rider whose speciality is known will work other aspects to make sure he doesn't fall under a required minimal there, but will focus on his strong points, because that's how he'll win races. Ex : sprinters work hills to be able to sprint at the end, but their main focus is sprinting.
Edited by Aquarius on 30-08-2013 20:16
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 31-08-2013 08:50
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MrUfo87 wrote:
Bulgac, Bellemakers, Reynes, De Greef and Van de Walle have to leave Lotto-Belisol. Probably Van Leijen has to leave as well. (We already knew about Reynes because he already signed at IAM)
Maybe he wants to leave? |
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 31-08-2013 14:35
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MartijnVDD wrote:
MrUfo87 wrote:
Bulgac, Bellemakers, Reynes, De Greef and Van de Walle have to leave Lotto-Belisol. Probably Van Leijen has to leave as well. (We already knew about Reynes because he already signed at IAM)
Maybe he wants to leave?
I've read that Marc Sergeant has said in an interview during the Vuelta that they have to leave the team. It could be his own choice. But after Lotto has signed a lot of riders they probably don't have enough places to keep him.
Pieter Weening has extended his contract at Orica-GreenEdge for two years.
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