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Le Tour de France
issoisso
Cunego's haematocrit is through the roof. If there's a stage where he'll do well it's in the low oxygen of the Bonette.

This is THE stage I've been waiting for. Literally anything can happen. It might be the best stage ever or the most boring.
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ruben
Cunego drops everywhere.
 
issoisso
Ruben wrote:
Cunego drops everywhere.


I'm not saying he'll do well, I'm saying that he has the best chance here.

But of course everyone will say it's the crashes and keep considering him a fabulous climber somehow.

It's just one of those things people are blind to and refuse to acknowledge. Like Burghardt being a decent climber.

EDIT: I've been tipping Menchov the whole way, I see no reason to change it now. Menchov for the Tour. Valverde for the stage.
Edited by issoisso on 22-07-2008 10:58
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ruben
That might be good Tour for Rabobank this year. After the fiasco last year, they win the green jersey and maybe even the yellow.
 
Dankan
CrueTrue wrote:
I haven't been active on the forum the past two weeks due to the speed problems, but let me sum up: CSC!!!!! Grin


Wrong!

Carlos Sastre Candil

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Fjogh
Yeah. Who had expect that?
Anyways, I can't wait for today. I'm so excited (isn't that a song?)
 
Fjogh
Dankan wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
I haven't been active on the forum the past two weeks due to the speed problems, but let me sum up: CSC!!!!! Grin


Wrong!

Carlos Sastre Candil

B)


Where comes saxo bank in picture?
 
issoisso
Dankan wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
I haven't been active on the forum the past two weeks due to the speed problems, but let me sum up: CSC!!!!! Grin


Wrong!

Carlos Sastre Candil

B)


If that actually means something, then I'm sorry for Evan Paul Oliphant Pfft
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Guido Mukk
Today..I dont want to say out any prediction. Same group will out there again..but what is gonna happens then..realy dont know.
 
stuartmcstuart
issoisso wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Cunego drops everywhere.


I'm not saying he'll do well, I'm saying that he has the best chance here.

But of course everyone will say it's the crashes and keep considering him a fabulous climber somehow.

It's just one of those things people are blind to and refuse to acknowledge. Like Burghardt being a decent climber.

EDIT: I've been tipping Menchov the whole way, I see no reason to change it now. Menchov for the Tour. Valverde for the stage.


Agreed. Lets get one thing straight, Cunego is a good hilly classics rider - but not a grand tour rider. Period. If only he would stop insisting that he is!
 
Smoothie
I agree Stuart, Its similar to Valverde. Great in the ardennes and 7 days tours but when he reachs the big stuff. Kaboom...
 
Guido Mukk
I still go with Ewans..because people are loosing faith to support him...and just for to be anoying for Ruben.
He looked quite pale two days ago..If he get normal look back..he is still man to beat.
Still some prediction CSC guys will be cause lot of trouble today and tomorrow. Mostly Sastre
Edited by Guido Mukk on 22-07-2008 11:39
 
stuartmcstuart
Smoothie wrote:
I agree Stuart, Its similar to Valverde. Great in the ardennes and 7 days tours but when he reachs the big stuff. Kaboom...


Exactly. Another rider in denial! At least Valverde can climb occasionally with the best in the mountains! While we're on the subject - heres another rider who should not be classified as a GT rider: Kim Kirchen. To be fair, he can do a decent enough climb, and its really his team who have said he's a GT leader, not him. Pfft
 
niconico
Guido Mukk wrote:
I still go with Ewans..because people are loosing faith to support him...and just for to be anoying for Ruben.
He looked quite pale two days ago..If he get normal look back..he is still man to beat.


Yep I'm with Guido on that. Evans is still massive favourite the way I see it. CSC might be the best in the mountains, but Evans has shown that he can limit his time loss very well, and because of the time trial, Sastre and Schleck, will need AT LEAST 2 minutes on Evans in the GC (Schleck even more) to win the race. Even compared to Menchov, Evans looks strong as I consider him the better time trialist of the two.

I sincerely and deeply hope that CSC will crack Evans today or tomorrow, but I have never seen Evans crack so it seems unlikely. But a lot of things can happen. CSC are experts in splitting the pack in cross-winds and that might happen after the Alps if they don't have gap needed on Evans and Menchov. Anyway the fact that CSC's captains are the poorest TTists among the favourites is going to provide us with a lot of action today and tomorrow, because they simply have to attack if they want to win the Tour. Today CSC should attact early on Bonette-Restefond. I don't think they will do much more on Lombarde than setting the pace so that the heaviest guys drops off.
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Guido Mukk
Like to give some credit for isso..after TdF route was anounced..he sayd wow..there is gonna blenty riders to wear yellow this year..mostly at the first week.
Guy has been right
Edited by Guido Mukk on 22-07-2008 11:46
 
niconico
stuartmcstuart wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Cunego drops everywhere.


I'm not saying he'll do well, I'm saying that he has the best chance here.

But of course everyone will say it's the crashes and keep considering him a fabulous climber somehow.

It's just one of those things people are blind to and refuse to acknowledge. Like Burghardt being a decent climber.

EDIT: I've been tipping Menchov the whole way, I see no reason to change it now. Menchov for the Tour. Valverde for the stage.


Agreed. Lets get one thing straight, Cunego is a good hilly classics rider - but not a grand tour rider. Period. If only he would stop insisting that he is!


isso and me has been saying that for quite a while. Finally people are beginning to get enlighted Pfft

In all fairness though I think isso was earlier out than me stating this
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CrueTrue
Don't forget Vande Velde. If he can keep up with Evans and Menchov, the overall win can very well become his. He's a very good TT'er and may be even better than Evans.

But in general, this is just one amazingly close Tour - and very, very exciting one too.
 
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helGn
do anyone think kirchen is a great GT rider? columbia was happy to have the yellow but dont think they expected anything awesome from kirchen. i hope for a top10 from him nothing more. however if he riders another TT like the last one, he's improved alot in that aspect
 
Guido Mukk
I dont have nothing against Vandevelde..but I fhe wins. I probably cant survive matt and co "I TOLD YOU SO TALK"
 
stuartmcstuart
helGn wrote:
do anyone think kirchen is a great GT rider? columbia was happy to have the yellow but dont think they expected anything awesome from kirchen. i hope for a top10 from him nothing more. however if he riders another TT like the last one, he's improved alot in that aspect


I think they did originally hope for top 10, but after he got the jersey, combined with his improved TT'ing, they started making noises about top 5 and perhaps podium. No chance. Wink
 
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