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| vismitananda |
Posted on 12-05-2013 19:17
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
That makes zero sense. The Giro is his main goal this year.
Well, I guess we should wait till the Giro is over, and see how he progress through the stages.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 12-05-2013 19:18
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
vismitananda wrote:
for Wiggo, seriously 50 at DH? He's just having a bad week at the Giro so far, maybe we should wait till TDF to clarify this. 
That makes zero sense. The Giro is his main goal this year.
So his downhill skills are better at his peak?
Look, he was good at Tour last year, following Nibs on downhills quite well.
He had few falls in wet and now is quite scared and really descending safely. I think it's logical after he hit a fall few times, he's going take do it more safely hence loosing time.
He doesn't deserve 50, somewhere around 65/66 is fine.
Edited by Alakagom on 12-05-2013 19:19
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 12-05-2013 19:20
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Alakagom wrote:
So his downhill skills are better at his peak?
Well, I'd expect him to be more confident when in form - meaning that he should do better also in the descents.
But 50 DH is obviously far too low.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 12-05-2013 19:22
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50 DH was probably a joke. But around 60-63 would justify, joining the Gesink and Basso group
Edited by Jesleyh on 12-05-2013 19:23
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| vismitananda |
Posted on 12-05-2013 19:50
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Jesleyh wrote:
50 DH was probably a joke. But around 60-63 would justify, joining the Gesink and Basso group
Indeed a bad joke.  Wiggins is just afraid at the moment to follow Nibbles on the descents since its always raining, We all know that even a state of the art wheels can't beat the corners of a downhill when its raining.
As of now, I just can't give a digit on his downhill skills until the Giro is over.
I think every rider should be updated/evaluated after the biggest race/s they're after.
Edited by vismitananda on 12-05-2013 19:51
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| SweatyViking |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:07
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Francis Mourey:
FL: 69
MO:72
HIL:71
DH:75
TT: 61
PRL:60
SP: 65
ACC:66
STA:70
RES: 69
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:10
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Wiggins stats down, Kiserlovski 78MO 77HIL , Uran 79MO - 78HIL , Betancur 76MO 78HIL, Wiggins 77MO 75HIL , Hesjedal 76MO 76 HIL . Well,that's until now,i know we have to wait,but these are only some suggestions. 
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:11
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admirschleck wrote:
Wiggins stats down, Kiserlovski 78MO 77HIL , Uran 79MO - 78HIL , Betancur 76MO 78HIL, Wiggins 77MO 75HIL , Hesjedal 76MO 76 HIL . Well,that's until now,i know we have to wait,but these are only some suggestions.
Wiggins 77 MO? You insane?
Anyway, Alakagom has surely seen the Giro. This thread is for smaller riders
Edited by FroomeDog99 on 14-05-2013 18:13
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:15
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admirschleck wrote:
Wiggins stats down, Kiserlovski 78MO 77HIL , Uran 79MO - 78HIL , Betancur 76MO 78HIL, Wiggins 77MO 75HIL , Hesjedal 76MO 76 HIL . Well,that's until now,i know we have to wait,but these are only some suggestions.
I disagree with everyone of those suggestions!!!!
Wiggins currently 80 76, off current performance, 79 75 (dude dominated the last Tour, and most of last season)
Kiserlovski currently 76 76 (i think), and he is living up to that, no more
Uran currently 77 78, off current performance is exactly that, might push 78mo
Betancur currently 77 78 (i think), living up to that no more
Hesjedal currently 80 77 (i think), off performance 78 77/78 (dude won the Giro last year, and was great in LBL)
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:21
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TheManxMissile wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
Wiggins stats down, Kiserlovski 78MO 77HIL , Uran 79MO - 78HIL , Betancur 76MO 78HIL, Wiggins 77MO 75HIL , Hesjedal 76MO 76 HIL . Well,that's until now,i know we have to wait,but these are only some suggestions.
I disagree with everyone of those suggestions!!!!
Wiggins currently 80 76, off current performance, 79 75 (dude dominated the last Tour, and most of last season)
Kiserlovski currently 76 76 (i think), and he is living up to that, no more
Uran currently 77 78, off current performance is exactly that, might push 78mo
Betancur currently 77 78 (i think), living up to that no more
Hesjedal currently 80 77 (i think), off performance 78 77/78 (dude won the Giro last year, and was great in LBL)
Betancur is 75-78 right now,i said he need a lil boost.
Wiggins constantly cant follow some 75stat guys.
Kiserlovski needs at least 77 in MO.
Uran 78-78 would be nice.
Hesjedal , i made mistake there.
FroomeDog99 - Yep, why? Without Froome last year he wouldn't get anything. Much better guys constantly waiting for him and bringing his seconds back! Want to see him in BMC or something like that. He would go totally out of TOP10 at any GT.
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:24
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But that's the point, he is at Sky
Your really expect him to achieve his current results with 77 Mo? Dude, he won the Tour last year by 3 mins. You don't do that with 77 Mo 
Edited by FroomeDog99 on 14-05-2013 18:24
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:24
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FroomeDog99 wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
Wiggins stats down, Kiserlovski 78MO 77HIL , Uran 79MO - 78HIL , Betancur 76MO 78HIL, Wiggins 77MO 75HIL , Hesjedal 76MO 76 HIL . Well,that's until now,i know we have to wait,but these are only some suggestions.
Wiggins 77 MO? You insane?
Anyway, Alakagom has surely seen the Giro. This thread is for smaller riders
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that'll be the day
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:26
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FroomeDog99 wrote:
But that's the point, he is at Sky
Your really expect him to achieve his current results with 77 Mo? Dude, he won the Tour last year by 3 mins. You don't do that with 77 Mo
You can do that,just try getting 81MO , 79MO and 78MO guys with you,and bring them with main rider when he drops. But okay,discussion over.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:29
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I disagree as well, I'm afraid.
You're right about Betancur.
Wiggins 77MO?! Dafuq?! That doesn't make any sense. You only had 1(arguably 2) mountain stages in the Giro. He didn't even do thát bad today. And the guy won the Tour less than a year ago!
I would say Uran 78-77.
You're being too harsh on Hesjedal. Won a GT less than a year ago!
I would await the rest of the Giro first for major stats adjustments anyway, but Hesjedal can take a small drop, I agree.
78/79 MO I think.
Don't think Kiserlovski should get better stats. Definitely not 78-77. Maybe 77-76, but as said, wait until the Giro end.
Edit: I posted this before I saw your discussion over post. Sorry
Edited by Jesleyh on 14-05-2013 18:29
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:33
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Its too soon to judge Hesjedal. He's either misjudged his form or theres something wrong with him. You can drop his stats, but I'll remember this post and when he does something that proves he's still a good climber I'll bring it back up, because Im almost certain it will happen.
The lowest his MO stat should drop is 78 for now.
Wiggins is still good too, but I think we've seen that when the support isn't there he isn't as strong, as well as if the climbs are very steep.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 14-05-2013 18:36
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Vaughters is probably going to tell the reason why Hesjedal is sucking hard. Did Cataldo stomach disease infested Aru, Hesjedal and Tiralongo? |
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| TomBoonen007 |
Posted on 14-05-2013 19:41
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What do you think Di Luca, Mauro Santambrogio stats? |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 14-05-2013 19:43
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TomBoonen007 wrote:
What do you think Di Luca, Mauro Santambrogio stats?
Mauro is already upped to 77MO, 76HI in the stats update. For now, that's okay.
I wouldn't higher up Di Luca too much either.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 14-05-2013 19:43
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Santambrogio, 76 MO, 76 HIL. Di Luca, 72 MO, 75 HIL, 78 FTR. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 14-05-2013 19:59
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FroomeDog99 wrote:
But that's the point, he is at Sky
Your really expect him to achieve his current results with 77 Mo? Dude, he won the Tour last year by 3 mins. You don't do that with 77 Mo
Well, in theory you could, if you have a 82MO guy protecting him, and literally gain minutes in the time trials.
But 77 is too low, I'd put him 79 MO 76 HIL at the moment, but with below average endurance and resistance stats.
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