Stromeon wrote:


Hoping this isn't a troll because otherwise I'm wasting my time trying to explain.

Quintana did NOT attack on the descent. He followed Rolland and Hesjedal as well (I think) as he saw they were pushing on. He would have had no idea that people behind him thought that the race was neutralised, and so seeing other GC guys attacking the only natural response is to follow. There was so much confusion at that point that it is really very hard to attribute blame to anyone but the organisers.

I can also find no evidence of him 'laughing at people complaining'. I would be very glad if you could provide this evidence, but I doubt he would be that rude.
Taking a more objective view of proceedings might be useful rather than just launching into accusations and other unfavourable statements.

jph27 wrote:


If it was Majka, you'd not be complaining...

Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Of course they agree, because they dont want to listen to whinners like you all life and hear that they cheated to victory. Please deal with it or visit another forum, this is getting boring.

Big clap to what Quintana says in that article,i also laugh.

Avin Wargunnson wrote:
As i said before, lets ban radios completely and let riders do what they see on the road. Without radios, everybody would just ride down and tried to be at the front in that controversial stage.

Radios are destroying competetive cycling at its best and serve as starting ramp to these problems in communication.

Shonak wrote:
It's a figure of speech. This discussion makes me laugh too... but actually, I'm just shaking my head.

Again: No one attacked. Majka, Kelderman and Uran sat up when they shouldn't have. I ride away easily from people who are stopping all the time too. Quintana, Hesjedal and Rolland did that, they rode away. Rolland said for example said, he was busy not to crash, how do you expect them to look around and look out for other riders? "Oh, is that Uran... or hey, I should wait until he's here". Really. I mean, come on. They did nothing wrong. Majka, Kelderman and Uran acted gullible and naive on the information by the RCS. They also trusted their DS too much but didn't trust their own eyes. Don't blame Quintana and the other two for that. Blame RCS, the respecitve team managers and their own gullibility.

@Tjoertszc: I spotted precisely one Movistar rider and he looked like he stopped because someone cut off his way while he put on his jacket or because he was complaining to someone.

SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Alonso in the Giro

Tjoertszc wrote:
And when you say that you cannot expect Rolland, Hesjedal and Quintana to look around for others riders, but then blame the rest of the riders for not doing so - that makes no sense at all.
None of the riders were able to get an overview of the race during the descent. None of the DS were. Even on TV it was barely possible.

However, you cannot blame the rest of the riders for sitting up. The sound files from the official radio clearly indicates that the riders were to be very careful on the descent, implying that they of course should keep some distance between riders.

Kritzo wrote:
Simply lost everything for Quintana.

Not only does he attack on a red flagged descent (don't tell me that there no proof is..) but he is simply laughing at people complaining about the questionable attack.

A little humility would have been nice.. What a jerk.

Avin Wargunnson wrote:
As i said before, lets ban radios completely and let riders do what they see on the road. Without radios, everybody would just ride down and tried to be at the front in that controversial stage.

Radios are destroying competetive cycling at its best and serve as starting ramp to these problems in communication.

Shonak wrote:
One thing I admire about Rolland is that he really likes and knows how to use his team. Be it either for pacing, for breakaways and relays stations, to snatch away mountains points or to make life possible for other riders. Full team racing.