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maximus
If you're going to do a story then of those teams you listed, I'd go for Euskaltel. Bring glory back to those orange boys Smile
 
emmea90
I admit the Tdf 2012 is too hard... but you can't simple named "cobbles" the mur du Grammont Embarassed
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Shonak
I love your Grand Tour stages especially because they are tough as hell. Always looking forward to riding them. Your mountain stages are just enormous, in terms of difficulty as well as in their scope and beauty. Smile

@Maximus: Yeah, I'd prefer them too. Such a great team. Also I like the fact, that I'd only need 1-2 scouts for the basque countries and can concentrate a lot on building up new talent. Smile
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Blueprint
Shonak wrote:
In case, I do a PCM story, which I am still uncertain about (time is obviously a big factor), which team would you prefer? I am kinda stuck between Vacansoleil and Euskaltel. I'd prefer this teams since they fold and it'd be nice to continue them in fiction.


Depends on whether you prefer classics & sprints (Vacansoleil) or stage races (Euskaltel). And whether you like an international or a regional approach when it comes to expanding your team. I'd say that Euskaltel is more challenging with Sanchez getting old and not too much Basque talent up for grabs.

I finally managed to start a career again with my favourite Astana team. Hired Samoilau (was rumoured to go to Astana anyway and my fiancée is Belarussian) and made a season planning with all riders getting 63-68 race days. Nibali will be going for Tour victory, but I want the team to perform well in most WT races. Mainly looking forward to play one day races with the duo Iglinskiy/Gasparotto again Smile
 
Dippofix
Shonak said earlier on that i could post my NaNo story here. Sadly i have loads of exams coming up, and don't have enough time to finish it. Sad
That's not really what i want to say though. He got me thinking, that i could write a PCM based one next year (or earlier) and post it on here as a story. I'm planning on making a "biography" of a sagan-style sprinting - cobbling - hilling rider. Firstly: Is it worth trying? I'll probably start playing soon, write down everything important, and then put it together much later. Secondly: What team to take? The first season will be at An Post on CT level, but i'm not sure what to do after that.
 
Shonak
Haha, Dippofix, yup - that's the bad part of NaNoWri. Honestly, since many friends have their birthday in November, I gave up on seriously particpating in there.

As for the story: Why not? There are many stories about a single rider, so it's definitely something that works in practice. And if you want to do it, then you already have the answer to "Why?" - simply because you want to. Wink
As for a team: No idea, but I suppose a Pro Continental Team could work. If he already starts very young at a Sagan-type of level, then a World Tour team obviously. Will he be Irish? Maybe Garmin-Sharp or Katusha since they lack such a rider I think. Also, Lampre or Vacansoleil could fit to a young, rising pro. If he's spanish Movistar, Caja Rural or Euskaltel even (how about a basque cobbleexpert, that'd be something less Wink ). I wouldn't go for SKY, Cannondale, Omega Pharma or Radioshack. Or wait, maybe Radioshack could be quite a perfect fit.

@Blueprint: Right now, I even think about Caja Rural, where I could hire mostly spanish & portuguese riders. If I'd play Euskaltel, I'd certainly only hire basque talent. About Vacansoleil, I'd really like to play with De Gendt at some point, but there approach is definitely very international, or at least two nationalities are important, and I don't like to have too many scouting regions (I suppose everybody here learned by now that I'm quite fond of scouted riders hihi).
And as for Astana: You are truly always coming back to them hehe. They are a great team! I'd like to read though how you transform Katusha and russian cycling over a couple of seasons. Maybe when you have more time, you'd get back to it. Smile

Oh, and just saying: East European women are <3 Wink
Edited by Shonak on 16-11-2013 03:18
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Dippofix
He's no world beater yet, he's absolute leader at An Post atm, his main stats are these:
SP 73
ACC 74
CBS 72
HIL 72
As for the team, i think Garmin sounds great! Both good sprinting and good cobbling support, and they have a rather clean reputation. It also depends on who relegates to PCT really. I'm not sure if a year CT, a year PCT and then a year WT would be better or worse than skipping the year of PCT. And he'll ride for Ireland in his first year, but his mom is american, and they'll snatch him up in year two, so that he has a good shot at becoming WC at some point.
 
Blueprint
Shonak wrote:

@Blueprint: Right now, I even think about Caja Rural, where I could hire mostly spanish & portuguese riders. If I'd play Euskaltel, I'd certainly only hire basque talent. About Vacansoleil, I'd really like to play with De Gendt at some point, but there approach is definitely very international, or at least two nationalities are important, and I don't like to have too many scouting regions (I suppose everybody here learned by now that I'm quite fond of scouted riders hihi).
And as for Astana: You are truly always coming back to them hehe. They are a great team! I'd like to read though how you transform Katusha and russian cycling over a couple of seasons. Maybe when you have more time, you'd get back to it. Smile

Oh, and just saying: East European women are <3 Wink


I will pass it on to Mrs. Blueprint Wink

And Caja Rural could be a nice choice indeed, they always have some Italian and South American influences too. Don't forget to update stats & potential for Ruben Fernandez then, who won the Tour de l'Avenir Smile
 
The Hobbit
Dippofix wrote:

As for the team, i think Garmin sounds great! Both good sprinting and good cobbling support, and they have a rather clean reputation. It also depends on who relegates to PCT really. I'm not sure if a year CT, a year PCT and then a year WT would be better or worse than skipping the year of PCT.


You look for teams with good rep, I went for the opposite Rolling Eyes
Nice idea, just a shame I was going to do this sort of rider next Sad
Don't worry, I have Javier, Dennis and Walter to go till I'm done with anything but GC. Oops, said Javier, you didn't hear anything
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I'd miss PCT, i find wildcards a hassle, so I just give myself the ones I want in the end.
 
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Shonak
Blueprint wrote:
I will pass it on to Mrs. Blueprint Wink

And Caja Rural could be a nice choice indeed, they always have some Italian and South American influences too. Don't forget to update stats & potential for Ruben Fernandez then, who won the Tour de l'Avenir Smile


I wasn't aware that Fernandez rides for Caja Rural. Looks like I'll have my next Caroli already then. Wink Anyone got stats & potential for this youngster (something like the latest PCM2013 DB)?
Edited by Shonak on 18-11-2013 21:16
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Dippofix
If you can hang on till tomorrow i can look it up for you, or else you can just download the .cdb from one of the support threads. His potential is 6 i think, because otherwise i wouldn't have managed to overlook him for my story. Rolling Eyes
 
Blueprint
Finally got to some actual playing too and started with a disappointing Tour Down Under. Everything seemed to go fine with Guardini winning the sprint in the first stage and Iglinskiy taking the third stage, although no time differences were made. Then I simulated a flat stage and Brutt gained more than a minute from a successful breakaway, so things were getting rough. Sacrificed Gasparotto in a desperate attempt to help Iglinskiy win the GC in the Willunga stage, but it wasn't enough: Brutt won the Tour Down Under, Iglinskiy 2nd and Gasparotto 8th. It's not too bad though, as the sponsor goal was top-3 and we managed to take the points jersey (Guardini) as a comfort prize.
Edited by Blueprint on 20-11-2013 22:04
 
nielsboy1998
Wow, Tom Boonen is in my carreer belgian champion TT Shock Cyanide strikes again XD
Always see the bright Side of life!
 
Shonak
Whooooz. New PC is amazing. I have problems with the AMD driver, but I hopefully fix it anytime soon.

Meanwhile, playing this game feels completely new. However, this change of the system, also kinda makes me feel like my Lampre is finished. I have saved the Lampre career on an external hard drive and I played two Vuelta stages (Caroli is in red!, but it kinda... well, feels dull.

Hmmm, those graphics. Grin

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Edited by Shonak on 23-11-2013 03:41
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atlanta
Thats great Shonak, and do you own PCM 13?
 
Dippofix
Very nice graphics Shonak! Smile
Meanwhile at An Post, JOC is doing well enough. Without giving away too much i can say that his first. good result came quite spectacularly against world class opposition.
Edited by Dippofix on 12-12-2013 09:21
 
Shonak
atlanta wrote:
Thats great Shonak, and do you own PCM 13?


Nah, I only own PCM 2012 and some very old ones. I looked at the some playthroughs of PCM 2013 and I don't like the sponsor system of the game.

@Dippofix: Great, looking forward to the story. Cool
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Blueprint
Finally heading towards the spring season start with simulated victories in Oman (Fuglsang), Murcia (Nibali) and La Drome & Sud Ardèche (Iglinskiy). First race I did myself after Tour Down Under was Strade Bianche, where Astana decimated the peloton and Nibali attacked for an impressive 15 km solo to the finish, barely staying ahead of a small peloton. So we're definitely ready for Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico.
 
Shonak
Looks like the guys are building up their form very nicely. Nibali`s solo attack must show that he ready for Tirreno. Do you aim for Tour or Giro this season?

@Dippo: Could you maybe tell me, which young riders have got an increase, and how much? I noticed Meinjtes, that south african rider, and that he was rather low and I think about increasing stats for some youngster like Mohoric, Fernandez, Meinjtes, Yates bros, Konrad and so forth... that means, if they are all in the db?
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Blueprint
Nibali is aiming for the Tour, because it's the sponsor's #1 goal to win the yellow jersey. But first he will try to win Tirreno and Sanremo, then take a long break and build up through Luxembourg, GP Aargau, Tour de Suisse (another major sponsor target) and National Championships. Last targets will be the Worlds and Lombardia after a build-up through some minor Italian races.
 
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