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Cycling at London 2012 Olympic Games
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 03-08-2012 11:39
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Crommy wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
This is what got the GB women relegated 
You would have thought that they would know the rules by now 
But that's not even the timing line - I thought the ruling was about moving past Varnish's back wheel before they reached the changeover area...
I think it's that the lead-out rider has to do one full lap in front
OK. But in which case that picture is surely still irrelevant as it's not the start line for team sprint... |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 03-08-2012 11:39
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Crommy wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
This is what got the GB women relegated
You would have thought that they would know the rules by now
But that's not even the timing line - I thought the ruling was about moving past Varnish's back wheel before they reached the changeover area...
I think it's that the lead-out rider has to do one full lap in front
Crommy is right
The 1st Rider (Varnish) has to do 1 complete lap ahead of the 2nd Rider (Pendelton).
The change has to be made in the 50m before the bend, that Start Line is the 50m mark.
Edited by TheManxMissile on 03-08-2012 11:40
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 11:44
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Robert Forsterman isn't human. His legs, they're like tree trunks.
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 11:48
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Eden95 wrote:
Robert Forsterman isn't human. His legs, they're like tree trunks.
Greipel vs. Förstemann. Probably posted before, but still funny.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 03-08-2012 11:51
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OMG. Somebody tell me it's a fake. 
Edited by Aquarius on 03-08-2012 11:55
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 11:54
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And I thought Greipel was a monster...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-08-2012 12:16
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Better that he admitted it, worse cause it means he did it on purpose
I thought that you had to play to the best of your ability
Hindes didnt ride slower than his best to get an easier round
He crashed cause he mucked up, while not sporting is not illegal.
Playing to get an easier draw is against some general code.
Im not saying its the right thing, im just saying it happened.
They should be sanctioned, but disqualification is harsh as they broke no actual rules, or code.
Especially as they then set 2 WR
Your logic is seriously twisted. The fact that they won or got WR dont have anything to do with the case. Badminton players were also the best and that is even worse when the best do it.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 03-08-2012 12:19
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Better that he admitted it, worse cause it means he did it on purpose
I thought that you had to play to the best of your ability
Hindes didnt ride slower than his best to get an easier round
He crashed cause he mucked up, while not sporting is not illegal.
Playing to get an easier draw is against some general code.
Im not saying its the right thing, im just saying it happened.
They should be sanctioned, but disqualification is harsh as they broke no actual rules, or code.
Especially as they then set 2 WR
Your logic is seriously twisted. The fact that they won or got WR dont have anything to do with the case. Badminton players were also the best and that is even worse when the best do it.
I cant be asked with this any more
Yes it was bad, ive said that, and they should be sanctioned in some way, and change the rules.
But they won, with a massive WR so really i dont care 
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 03-08-2012 12:20
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Those legs are freaking unbelievable.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 12:34
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Those legs are just sick |
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| SotD |
Posted on 03-08-2012 12:40
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TheManxMissile wrote:
felix_29 wrote:
Don´t forget that the badminton players only lost to have a worse opponent later. So it´s the same, both tried to get an advantage by failing.
True he gained an advantage
But the Badminton players broke the rules, Hindes did not.
Basically its the rules letting it down.
But everyone has to admit the GB deserved the gold, as they were undoubtedly the quickest sprint team.
Where does it stand in the badminton rules, that you cannot lose a game on purpose? I have played it for quite some years, and I haven't read it. I have played shitloads of tournaments, where this happens. On high, aswell as lower level. It's poor sportsmanship, but not against the rules of the sport. Foul play is against the olympic games rules though, and should be dealt with equivalent. It doesn't come as a big surprise though that the cycling organizers doesn't ball up for the task though. It's one of the most corrupt systems in the world of sports, and everything is accepted, as long as you are in good standing.
Only option on the case for me - Disqualification.
EDIT: Oh and. The chinese couple was BY FAR the strongest team, and deserved the gold. So there isn't much of a difference. It's all about bending the sportsmanship. Both did it deliberately, and should be kicked the hell out of the olympics.
EDIT EDIT: Just read Crommy's quote of the rules. I still haven't seen them, and can't seem to find them in the rules of badminton. I can find the quotes from several british medias but not from the real badminton-"law". Also the judge is danish, and he himself confirmed, that they were disqualified due to putting the olympic games in miscredit, rather than for breaking the rules.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-08-2012 12:52
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Of course nothing like that is the rule of badminton, they were kicked because of breaking the rules of Olympic games and that was reported soon after they were kicked out.
I missed the crommys quote, but what is the source for it, here in central Europe they talk only about breaking the spirit of Olympics, i doubt there is something like that in the rules of the sport itself, but it could be...
Btw. the world n.1 and one of the kicked badminton players from China ended her proffesional career because of that.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 03-08-2012 13:11
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Source for badminton: https://www.bwfbad...x?id=65297
EDIT: or here if you want the very direct source: https://www.bwfbad...&tid=1
Edited by Crommy on 03-08-2012 13:13
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| Crommy |
Posted on 03-08-2012 13:18
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No investigation to occur either: https://www.bbc.co...s/19107973
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-08-2012 13:30
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Of couse the home team will not be investigated by corrupted cycling union 
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| Smowz |
Posted on 03-08-2012 14:07
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Reading through that badminton players code of conduct, rather reminds me of the rather flimsy olympic promise that is read out. It's all a bit vague, subjective and impossible to be consistent on.
With reprecharge's and group stages in tournaments it has been several times throughout history that teams or individuals have deliberately lost (though probably very few completely blatently) to gain a better draw for themselves in later rounds. They may as well toss a coin for dead rubbers.
The BWF are completely to blame for designing a crappy group stage system. A mixture of that and some stubborn Asian players proved a cocktail for disaster.
Back to cycling - I was amazed that GB cycling team were allowed to do what they did in the prelims. Had they not been able to do so obviously they wouldn't have stopped and I reckon they probably would have qualified. They did it, the judges were happy with it and so we move on. The event did and I don't see any of the cyclists complaining about it.
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 14:40
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If I was in the same position as Hindes, I would of deliberately fell of my bike. It's a gold medal, the biggest prize for an track athlete. It's a loophole and he exploited it, the question is why is that loophole their to be exploited. Looked at the French fielding Bourdain in the Road Race so he could race a track event, that's a loophole. And as Cavendish has pointed out he wasn't allowed to ride the track because he hasn't raced a track World Cup in the past 6 months or so, but yet Bourdain has never raced a road event was allowed to start.
It's just sport, everyone has accept that athletes will look for loopholes and if they can be done without getting caught, they will do it. I think none of these should be allowed. But if the federation can't be bothered to take into consideration that athletes and teams may do this then they are to plain for allowing it to happen.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 03-08-2012 15:04
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sutty68 wrote:
Those legs are just sick
man should take para olympics. How he can ride with these legs? |
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| Rin |
Posted on 03-08-2012 15:23
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A normal body produces a lot of enzymes that hampers production of muscles otherwise everyone could build these ham muscle packages which isn't that good/handy, Förstemanns body doesn't produce that much of these enzymes so thats why he has those unbelievable ham legs.
Too bad Nimke got injured just before the event.. So Levy had to ride a lot more then he is used to at the sprint team event.
To the track cycling incident, normally the opponents (Germany) could protest against that pause, but they didn't. It was only the qualification so what.. Guess would have been still fast enough to qualify and win gold in the end or not?
But Hindes riding for GB is weird as he raced for Germany before. Normally you have to file 3 years before the olympics to change from one team to the other because someone changed the nationality. But looked like everyone here hadn't anything against that so Hindes could ride for GB at this olympics and not in Rio like it would be in a normal case.
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 15:30
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Rin wrote:
But Hindes riding for GB is weird as he raced for Germany before. Normally you have to file 3 years before the olympics to change from one team to the other because someone changed the nationality. But looked like everyone here hadn't anything against that so Hindes could ride for GB at this olympics and not in Rio like it would be in a normal case.
He didn´t change the nationality, he always was British and German. Maybe that´s the reason.
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