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2008 Tour suspicious samples to be retested
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-10-2009 20:01
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Shifty wrote:
So Isso which riders in the pro peloton aren't doped? Besides Casar and Monfort lol. Not saying I disagree that some riders are doped but you seem to think they all are. Call me optimistic but I'd like to think otherwise.
The director of the WADA-accredited Swiss Laboratory for Analysis of Doping in Lausanne, Switzerland, has told Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws that he believed there was still widespread doping in the Tour de France this year. "47 out of 189 riders raced on blood transfusions or EPO," Martial Saugy alleged. "We have been able to show this from the samples taken at the health controls."
Still, Saugy added that these test results did not fulfil the requirements to be declared as 'positive'. "It is appalling, but we find so many test results that undoubtedly point to manipulation," he continued. "But there is a big difference between a suspicious sample and one that can be declared positive."
Saugy also found indications for the use of testosterone and growth hormone. "Especially the latter product is very popular at the moment," he added. "As soon as there will be a water-proof test for growth hormone, it will show that 80 percent [of the peloton] is taking it. I am disillusioned: the use of growth hormone is as bad as was the use of EPO and blood doping in the 90's."
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 05-10-2009 20:29
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markene2 wrote:
my bet is about 10 to 15 riders get busted!
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 05-10-2009 20:34
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My bet is that the storm comes down to nothing.
Maybe 1 or 2 lower ranked riders get caught, but none of the big names. |
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| Shifty |
Posted on 05-10-2009 20:39
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issoisso wrote:
Shifty wrote:
So Isso which riders in the pro peloton aren't doped? Besides Casar and Monfort lol. Not saying I disagree that some riders are doped but you seem to think they all are. Call me optimistic but I'd like to think otherwise.
The director of the WADA-accredited Swiss Laboratory for Analysis of Doping in Lausanne, Switzerland, has told Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws that he believed there was still widespread doping in the Tour de France this year. "47 out of 189 riders raced on blood transfusions or EPO," Martial Saugy alleged. "We have been able to show this from the samples taken at the health controls."
Still, Saugy added that these test results did not fulfil the requirements to be declared as 'positive'. "It is appalling, but we find so many test results that undoubtedly point to manipulation," he continued. "But there is a big difference between a suspicious sample and one that can be declared positive."
Saugy also found indications for the use of testosterone and growth hormone. "Especially the latter product is very popular at the moment," he added. "As soon as there will be a water-proof test for growth hormone, it will show that 80 percent [of the peloton] is taking it. I am disillusioned: the use of growth hormone is as bad as was the use of EPO and blood doping in the 90's."
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| markene2 |
Posted on 05-10-2009 20:39
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CrueTrue wrote:
markene2 wrote:
my bet is about 10 to 15 riders get busted!
Dream on
Seriusly 
People cant be so naive and think that the top riders dont cheat. Stefan and Kohl cheated. Then probably the whole 07 tdf team did also. I Belive some more riders from saunier cheated. Top guy's will be taken. Your idols. Its just a mater of time. |
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| Wiggo |
Posted on 05-10-2009 20:40
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markene2 wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
markene2 wrote:
my bet is about 10 to 15 riders get busted!
Dream on
Seriusly
People cant be so naive and think that the top riders dont cheat. Stefan and Kohl cheated. Then probably the whole 07 tdf team did also. I Belive some more riders from saunier cheated. Top guy's will be taken. Your idols. Its just a mater of time.
He's not saying they weren't doping, just that they won't be caught. |
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| markene2 |
Posted on 05-10-2009 20:41
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Wiggo wrote:
He's not saying they weren't doping, just that they won't be caught.
Oh. My mistake  |
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| BenBarnes |
Posted on 06-10-2009 14:39
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So, if Evans hypothetically gets caught, what happens to the jersey? |
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| ember |
Posted on 06-10-2009 15:01
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What time is the press conference going to be? |
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 06-10-2009 21:31
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I think there too scared to ban contador if he is doping because he has won all 3 grand tours an TDF 2 times. I think they are scared of the uproar it will bring. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 06-10-2009 21:38
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ember wrote:
What time is the press conference going to be?
Tomorrow at 9am GMT, but I seriously don't think it'll be about this re-resting. That's probably just the papers lying/mistaken.
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| ember |
Posted on 06-10-2009 21:40
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issoisso wrote:
ember wrote:
What time is the press conference going to be?
Tomorrow at 9am GMT, but I seriously don't think it'll be about this re-resting. That's probably just the papers lying/mistaken.
I do also believe that, but still, I'm curious to find out what they are going to say.. |
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| ursul |
Posted on 06-10-2009 22:48
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A lot of thing...
When Nothing goes rigth, go left...
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| Shifty |
Posted on 06-10-2009 22:59
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What if they said that all 15 or the top 20 tested positive for CERA and they were disbanding the UCI and ASO because they saw no more hope for the sport's public image? 
In all seriousness though, I hope they don't have much to say, if not for truth's sake then for the sake of cycling's image. I'm tired of the first two questions after telling people I'm a cyclist being 1.) So you're like Lance Armstrong? and 2.) Do you take steroids? Then again that could just be because I live in America.
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| ursul |
Posted on 07-10-2009 00:50
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So, do you like Lance and do yu take steroid
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| Shifty |
Posted on 07-10-2009 02:01
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ursul wrote:
So, do you like Lance and do yu take steroid
No and No
Well I like Armstrong as a racer, Some think his racing was too controlled and it was but that's what I liked, he just had his way with everybody and totally dictated how the race would go usually, and things like the infamous stare down of Ullrich and just seeing him chase down guys who spoke out against him in a "Do I have your approval now daddy?" fueled temper tantrum. I like that kind of character who races to prove something to others but really to themselves. Which is why I'm reading "The Agony of Victory: When Winning Isn't Enough" which is a book about multiple prominent sports figures and their less than ideal upbringings that drove them to be so good yet feel so empty about it (First chapter is about Graeme Obree and one is about Pantani). I also like for better/worse that he's brought cycling to the public in America to some degree, even if it's just him and the tour.
But the question is usually "Are you like Lance Armstrong?" because they don't know any other cyclist to compare me to and only know cycling as a sport because of Armstrong. When in reality I'm nowhere near the caliber or the rider type he is.
More Of An Answer Than You Wanted, I'm Sure,
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 07-10-2009 10:37
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17 RIDERS!!!!!!
ALL OF THEM FOUND TO HAVE not BEEN DOPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-10-2009 10:38
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17 riders had been retested - none positive
big fuss over nothing |
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 07-10-2009 10:44
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That's what you call an anti-climax  |
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 07-10-2009 10:49
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I knew it
This happens almost everytime when theres a storm coming.... |
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