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Le Tour 09: Stage 20: Montélimar - Mont Ventoux
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| Wiggo |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:39
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Normally I don't care much about the Vuelta, much more interested in the other 2. But this year, after this tour, looking forward to it and hoping it wont be the most boring thing ever. |
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:39
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Ildabaoth wrote:
Well, a TTT, 40 seconds gained in a flat stage and headwind during an stage where normally the Schlecks would have badly dominated Armstrong, so this is one of the most undeserved podiums I remember.
Now you are just a sucky loser who cant stand watch Lance on the podium... The others have to get better on TTT and pay more attention then..
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| kirosha |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:40
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Liquigas was strong today  |
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| Wiggo |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:41
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Erm, Armstrong got lucky on a few occasions. |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:42
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Biathlon wrote:
Now you are just a sucky loser who cant stand watch Lance on the podium... The others have to get better on TTT and pay more attention then..
And you are just a fanboy.
Also, big credit to Garate and Martin... And Andy... Just... No... He had more in the tank than that...
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| Wiggo |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:43
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Waghlon wrote:
Also, big credit to Garate and Martin
Agreed. |
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| Dan_Grr |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:45
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:46
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What a way to rescue the Tour for Rabobank.
And nice ride from Andy Schleck - though, you just don't know what Contador had in the tank... |
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| KurtinSC |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:46
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Maggot wrote:
Erm, Armstrong got lucky on a few occasions.
Some of that luck came from intelligent riding.
Gaining the seconds when the field split is totally deserved. Everyone else had the same chance... but Armstrong was savvy enough to do it.
I can see being annoyed by the TTT... but not the extra seconds lance got by riding intelligently. |
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| Shooting Star |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:46
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Can't you guys give credit to Armstrong? He's been in retirement for four years and comes back to stand on the podium in Paris. I think that is pretty strong. |
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:47
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Biathlon wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:
Well, a TTT, 40 seconds gained in a flat stage and headwind during an stage where normally the Schlecks would have badly dominated Armstrong, so this is one of the most undeserved podiums I remember.
Now you are just a sucky loser who cant stand watch Lance on the podium... The others have to get better on TTT and pay more attention then..
You are so classy, Biathlon. Did I say something against you or what? I'm not into personal fighings, not on a forum, not on real life. Have you read my posts? I've even praised Armstrong when he bridged a gap all by himself.
And, again, I didn't say anything false: without the TTT, without the 40 seconds at the 3rd stage, without today's headwind or without Kloden, Armstrong wouldn't be at the podium. Not a combination of those possibilities, just one of them would be enough.
About the sucky loser, well, Biathlon, don't take it wrong. I like when a rider who deserves a win, wins. Just that. Please keep your personal insults away from me or anyone in this forum; that doesn't show any intelligence.
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
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| KurtinSC |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:48
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If I'm not mistaken... if you take the TTT out... Lance and Frank would be tied... right? |
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| BenBarnes |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:48
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The TTT difference wouldn't have put Schleck on the podium though, would it? |
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| Macquet |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:49
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Correct me if I am wrong, but being attentive and marking your man on the mountain is not luck, but being a good rider. I would agree if Schleck x2 had a puncture or a fall that cost them time, or perhaps significantly different conditions during the TT or TTT that sould be a lucky break. Really, I don't think luck had much to do with it...unless you consider that if Levi doesn't crash out it is 4 vs 2 in the Alps instead of 3....So perhaps the Schleck boys were the lucky ones. |
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| BenBarnes |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:50
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Ildabaoth wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:
Well, a TTT, 40 seconds gained in a flat stage and headwind during an stage where normally the Schlecks would have badly dominated Armstrong, so this is one of the most undeserved podiums I remember.
Now you are just a sucky loser who cant stand watch Lance on the podium... The others have to get better on TTT and pay more attention then..
You are so classy, Biathlon. Did I say something against you or what? I'm not into personal fighings, not on a forum, not on real life. Have you read my posts? I've even praised Armstrong when he bridged a gap all by himself.
And, again, I didn't say anything false: without the TTT, without the 40 seconds at the 3rd stage, without today's headwind or without Kloden, Armstrong wouldn't be at the podium. Not a combination of those possibilities, just one of them would be enough.
About the sucky loser, well, Biathlon, don't take it wrong. I like when a rider who deserves a win, wins. Just that. Please keep your personal insults away from me or anyone in this forum; that doesn't show any intelligence.
But Armstrong making the split and earning 41 seconds is part of racing. Hard to say that he doesn't deserve the podium because he was paying attention... |
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:53
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Ildabaoth wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:
Well, a TTT, 40 seconds gained in a flat stage and headwind during an stage where normally the Schlecks would have badly dominated Armstrong, so this is one of the most undeserved podiums I remember.
Now you are just a sucky loser who cant stand watch Lance on the podium... The others have to get better on TTT and pay more attention then..
You are so classy, Biathlon. Did I say something against you or what? I'm not into personal fighings, not on a forum, not on real life. Have you read my posts? I've even praised Armstrong when he bridged a gap all by himself.
And, again, I didn't say anything false: without the TTT, without the 40 seconds at the 3rd stage, without today's headwind or without Kloden, Armstrong wouldn't be at the podium. Not a combination of those possibilities, just one of them would be enough.
About the sucky loser, well, Biathlon, don't take it wrong. I like when a rider who deserves a win, wins. Just that. Please keep your personal insults away from me or anyone in this forum; that doesn't show any intelligence.
Okay I'm sorry man... I thought u where agains Lance like all the others have been all the time.. So I just wanted to hit back with his 3rd place...
But Without the 2.18min Schleck got on stage 17 he wouldnt been so close eather.. We can say it like that then?
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| KurtinSC |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:53
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Ildabaoth wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:
Well, a TTT, 40 seconds gained in a flat stage and headwind during an stage where normally the Schlecks would have badly dominated Armstrong, so this is one of the most undeserved podiums I remember.
Now you are just a sucky loser who cant stand watch Lance on the podium... The others have to get better on TTT and pay more attention then..
You are so classy, Biathlon. Did I say something against you or what? I'm not into personal fighings, not on a forum, not on real life. Have you read my posts? I've even praised Armstrong when he bridged a gap all by himself.
And, again, I didn't say anything false: without the TTT, without the 40 seconds at the 3rd stage, without today's headwind or without Kloden, Armstrong wouldn't be at the podium. Not a combination of those possibilities, just one of them would be enough.
About the sucky loser, well, Biathlon, don't take it wrong. I like when a rider who deserves a win, wins. Just that. Please keep your personal insults away from me or anyone in this forum; that doesn't show any intelligence.
Ildabaoth... you have to look at luck on both sides though.
If Andy wasn't on the team, Frank wouldn't have gained nearly the time on the mountain stages that he did... if you noticed on most of those stages (including the one he won) Andy was the guy riding at the front much of the time.
Today... if Armstrong had been down... he probably could have dropped Frank 1 on 1, just like he did in the final meters.
Luck from teammates isn't really a valid complaint. Frank had plenty of that as well. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:53
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Continuing the tradition of the past 3 years, this is approximately the time of year when both Schlecks say they're likely to do the Vuelta, then a month later say "it turns out we're too tired for that". |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:56
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You only got to look at the riders who did the Giro then the Tour to understand that you get tired... |
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| Rinhoth |
Posted on 25-07-2009 15:57
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Yeah, oly two giro riders did a good tour, Armstrong and Pellizotti
If children have the ability to ignore all odds and percentages, then maybe we can all learn from them. When you think about it, what other choice is there but to hope? We have two options, medically and emotionally: give up, or Fight Like Hell.
-Lance Armstrong
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