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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-06-2009 17:19
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Could you use paragraphs? Your texts are very hard to read. Thank you 
jim1996 wrote:
you maybe were seeing him as better talent because these times not all the talents were going in tour.i mean there were some people that had the talent but their father just didnt have money for them to get them a bicycle etc....So the competition wasnt that big,understand this thing,and youll see.
That's........moronic. Sorry, but bikes haven't gotten cheaper, so the same (insane) argument can be applied just as well to Armstrong.
jim1996 wrote:Also think a bit about the air at this time trial.....
What?
jim1996 wrote:
And i think that all these athletes have the same power and talent.Think f1 hamilton was the best last year and now he cant compete the others.That shows that all these athletes got the same talent.
Again: what?
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Also Armstrong had so many problems at his life and he still did these great things.I think all these guys got the same talent.And armstrong could this thing that hinault did,its like that,Can you live how your grandmother live???...Thats all.
Like a broken record: What?
Really, you write words, but they don't make coherent sentences. It's like you're throwing random words at the screen. Dictionary Attack!
jim1996 wrote:
Well all these men are very very great.....And i dont like comparing(maybe the right word) about these men.
But you did. And people are disputing the comparison. So now the logical thing for you to do is back up your point of view with some arguments
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 07-06-2009 17:20
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jim1996 wrote:
These riders got the same talent,in this case(f1)its about the car,or about the stress(like baricelo today).Well you maybe dont understand me....But i think 1 day you will.....
In F1, the drivers clearly are of different levels of talent. Clearly they are all very talented to be F1 drivers - but some are more so than others. And thats without taking into account the advantages/disadvantages the cars can bring. |
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| jim1996 |
Posted on 07-06-2009 17:29
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OMG!I cant change your opinion,i cant change your religion.This is your opinion and this is my opinion, And now im talking about f1.Think a bit we are so many people and these 20-30 guys are super super talents.Now what you are saying is like comparing these numers 1,32412512512 and 1,32412512511.The difference is very small.....And as i said cant change your opinion.And now im talking about the upper post.Im not english and im now talking with all the words that i got....do u understand me??
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 07-06-2009 17:32
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jim1996 wrote:
OMG!I cant change your opinion,i cant change your religion.This is your opinion and this is my opinion, And now that about f1.Think a bit we are so many people ann these 20-30 guys are super super talents.Now what you are saying is like comparing these numers 1,32412512512 and 1,32412512511.The difference is very small.....And as i said cant change your opinion.And now about the upper post.Im not english and im now talking with all the words that i got....do understand me??
Then explain for example why some drivers are so dominant of their teammates?
e.g. Alonso over Piquet. Hamilton over Kovalainen. Rosberg over Nakajima. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-06-2009 17:32
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jim1996 wrote:Im not english and im now talking with all the words that i got....do u understand me??
I'm not english either.
Paragraphs. Paragraphs.
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| jim1996 |
Posted on 07-06-2009 17:36
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U are right,but u cant know what is happening inside the team....U should say this from the start....And still these are very small differeces.If u see how small are the gaps (in so many kilometres),understand me now??? |
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| jim1996 |
Posted on 07-06-2009 17:42
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issoisso wrote:
jim1996 wrote:Im not english and im now talking with all the words that i got....do u understand me??
I'm not english either.
Paragraphs. Paragraphs.
Well how old are you?And how many years are you practising english?Also these are "on spot" texts so you cant compare.Im 13 and practising 4 years
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 07-06-2009 17:51
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oh just stop complaining about armstrong focusing in the Tour... if he focused in the Giro and the Vuelta as well you would be complaining much more  !
Besides we would never be able to watch duels like Heras vs Menchov or the italians fighting each other in the Giro!
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-06-2009 17:55
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Katusha's forcing their riders to sign an addendum to their contract that says that if they test positive, they have to pay the team back the equivalent of 5 years salary.
You'd think nobody would be stupid enough to say no, as that would be a huge "I'm doping here" flag, right?
McEwen, Steegmans and De Haes are refusing to sign.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 07-06-2009 17:57
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That puts them in a really bad light.
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| jacknic |
Posted on 07-06-2009 18:07
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No, not really. To demand five years salary back is totally ridiculous. In no way or form is that demand even remotely reasonable, so I am not surprised that some of the riders are refusing to sign the contract. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-06-2009 18:08
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jacknic wrote:
No, not really. To demand five years salary back is totally ridiculous. In no way or form is that demand even remotely reasonable, so I am not surprised that some of the riders are refusing to sign the contract.
A clean rider has nothing to fear at all.
It's like your boss saying "you can only work here if you agree to pay us money if you murder someone".
If you're an honest person, you don't think twice about taking it.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 07-06-2009 18:10
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So is it only those 3 of the entire team who are refusing? |
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| mrlol |
Posted on 07-06-2009 18:13
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I'd refuse it as well. It's rediculous.
Plus, who says the stuff your team doctor gives is clean? You might take something thats on the bad list while you dont know.
With such big demands I start doubting the dope tests.
So much pressure to be clean, that I dont have the feeling anymore its in your own hands. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-06-2009 18:16
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SportingNonsense wrote:
So is it only those 3 of the entire team who are refusing?
yup
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-06-2009 18:19
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Imagine you going to dinner and the restaurant uses some things that are on the list, and next day, dope test, and you test positive.
Well there is your 'hang'-contract... goodbye money
It's ridicolous Isso. Nobody would ever in his right mind sign that, clean or not. Only incredibly dumb people would sign that. Retards, mongoloids, or just really ignorant cyclists. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-06-2009 18:23
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So, by your logic, riders cannot be held responsible for what's found in their body.
So, if we tear down the legal clause that states they are, then no one will ever be suspended for doping. ever.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 07-06-2009 18:26
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issoisso wrote:
So, by your logic, riders cannot be held responsible for what's found in their body.
So, if we tear down the legal clause that states they are, then no one will ever be suspended for doping. ever.
No. Thats not what I nor Ruben is saying. We're (well, I should actually only talk for myself but ok) saying that this is off limits, because there is always something you cant control which might get stuff into your body which is on the black list.
Like Ruben says in a restaurant.
This risk is too big with 5 years salary at stake. |
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| Juan |
Posted on 07-06-2009 18:27
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issoisso, you didn't say Steegmans made a counter-proposition to Katushe guys
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 07-06-2009 18:29
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Well, these are probably the highest paid riders, for whom:
a) f years alary is alot of money
b) are confident that they can easily get a job at another team
hence I can see them being nervous.
This post is made assuming 90% of riders dope
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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