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Davide Rebellin caught on CERA at Olympics (?)
mb2612
issoisso wrote:
knasen wrote:
A big WHAT IF now, but the B sample is negative


A HUGE "what if". There's very literally a much much larger chance of me winning the lottery 3 weeks in a row than there is of a B sample being negative when the A sample was positive.


Surely not, there have been occasions where the B sample has been negative or inconclusive following a positive A sample
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Please assume I am joking unless otherwise stated
 
issoisso
mb2612 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
knasen wrote:
A big WHAT IF now, but the B sample is negative


A HUGE "what if". There's very literally a much much larger chance of me winning the lottery 3 weeks in a row than there is of a B sample being negative when the A sample was positive.


Surely not, there have been occasions where the B sample has been negative or inconclusive following a positive A sample


Heh. Name one cycling case of a positive A sample followed by a negative B sample Smile

Anne Gripper recently said that the total number of such cases in the history of all sports can be counted by the fingers of two hands. She would know.
 
mb2612
issoisso wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
knasen wrote:
A big WHAT IF now, but the B sample is negative


A HUGE "what if". There's very literally a much much larger chance of me winning the lottery 3 weeks in a row than there is of a B sample being negative when the A sample was positive.


Surely not, there have been occasions where the B sample has been negative or inconclusive following a positive A sample


Heh. Name one cycling case of a positive A sample followed by a negative B sample Smile

Anne Gripper recently said that the total number of such cases in the history of all sports can be counted by the fingers of two hands. She would know.


Ok so say about 7 in all sports,
how many times has anyone won the lottery 3 weeks in a row, none.
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Please assume I am joking unless otherwise stated
 
Ennyzor
issoisso wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
knasen wrote:
A big WHAT IF now, but the B sample is negative


A HUGE "what if". There's very literally a much much larger chance of me winning the lottery 3 weeks in a row than there is of a B sample being negative when the A sample was positive.


Surely not, there have been occasions where the B sample has been negative or inconclusive following a positive A sample


Heh. Name one cycling case of a positive A sample followed by a negative B sample Smile

Anne Gripper recently said that the total number of such cases in the history of all sports can be counted by the fingers of two hands. She would know.


Its not a recent case, but back in 2001 Bo Hamburger was legally cleared of his positive EPO test, as the B sample was below the limit. So I suppose it did happen at least once before, although I highly doubt it will ever happen again Grin
 
The Mountain Lion
issoisso wrote:
Heh. Name one cycling case of a positive A sample followed by a negative B sample Smile


Didn't Iban Mayo once have a negative B sample.

But in other sports Bernard Lagat and Kristina Smigun have also had negative B samples.
 
Guido Mukk
The Mountain Lion wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Heh. Name one cycling case of a positive A sample followed by a negative B sample Smile


Didn't Iban Mayo once have a negative B sample.

But in other sports Bernard Lagat and Kristina Smigun have also had negative B samples.


Indeed Smigun was athtlete what I was comparing to Valverde..this is real hard for mentality to race with doping allegation.
This was was spoiled few Smigun title chanches..at the same winter. She was totaly broken...
Later they sayed..sry. this was some guy sample we was testing..to late she was already mentaly doomed
Edited by Guido Mukk on 29-04-2009 19:57
 
Guido Mukk
This all made me think has doper must feels when TdF or Olympics positive test start to come out..must be difficult time.. and they should feel bad ofcorse.
(Dostajevski experience..execution squad told him..:"We gonna shoot you after 5 minutes..". I takes one minut to say goodbye for friends..after that you wil have your life longest and painful 4 minutes..that you almost begging to be dead faster.
Irony was..that minut before execusion..they sayd..:" Ok Fjodor go home now"..after that I was changed man..different person)
Edited by Guido Mukk on 29-04-2009 20:06
 
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knasen
But a question I have about the Estonian skiers are why they only is good in classic style?
 
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Guido Mukk
knasen wrote:
But a question I have about the Estonian skiers are why they only is good in classic style?


Quic off topic answe..
well traditions..I think..we just dont have free style coaches and science ..we have tryed bring few guys from outside..(for sprinters)..but no result.
We have two coaches Alaver and Smigun father Anatoli..that's it..
Edited by Guido Mukk on 29-04-2009 20:11
 
Dan_Grr
I think it's DostoiƩvski you're referring to.

A man is not a man until he reads Crime and Punishment.
 
alexkr00
and now Serramenti's super team for Giro doesn't look so super.Pfft
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markene2
Well soon its not fun to watch cycling enymore. Becouse all the cycelists iv been following has been doped. Like Vino, Rebelin, And bettini retired. Argghhh
 
CrueTrue
Start following some other riders then Wink
 
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alexkr00
yeah. Become a Le Lay fan it's always an option.Pfft
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issoisso
markene2 wrote:
Well soon its not fun to watch cycling enymore. Becouse all the cycelists iv been following has been doped. Like Vino, Rebelin, And bettini retired. Argghhh


You should be glad Bettini retired before he joined the others on your list...

To be fair to you, it was pretty obvious those guys weren't playing fair. You're norwegian so just follow Hagen. he's clean.
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
jolly_antunes
Just start following french riders. They are all clean and i believe this will be the year that Moinard ends up in TdF podium Pfft
 
Roo
jolly_antunes wrote:
Just start following french riders. They are all clean and i believe this will be the year that Moinard ends up in TdF podium Pfft


Lol, which would obviously be proof of him being cleanSmile
 
CrueTrue
Rebellin at a hotel room receiving EPO during the Giro d'Italia 2001.

 
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Dan_Grr
Does he have sex with the blond?
 
ruben
No, they just kiss and hold hands.
 
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