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CrueTrue
13 teams have been given WildCard licenses. This means that they can participate in UCI's Pro Tour races.

• Vorarlberg – Corratec (Austria)
• Landbouwkrediet – Colnago (Belgium)
• Topsport Vlaanderen – Mercator (Belgium)
• Andalucia – Cajasur (Spain)
• Contentpolis – AMPO (Spain)
• Barloworld (Great Britain)
• Ceramica Flaminia – Bossini Docce (Ireland)
• ISD (Italy)
• Skil – Shimano (Holland)
• Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team (Holland)
• Cervelo Test Team (Switzerland)
• BMC Racing Team (USA)
• Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni – Androni Giocattoli (Venezuela)
 
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alexkr00
Ruben wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
in 2008 wasn't the first Tour for Andy? And he got the jersey...
The field was pretty weak for the white jersey in 2008. If you can lose 11 minutes in the first mountainstage and still win the white jersey, that says enough.
Besides, are you comparing Gesink to Schleck now?


No, I was just saying that you can get the white jersey in your first Tour.
And for me Gesink is more favourite for that than Dekker. Gesink has already a top10 in a GT, but yes it's true that Dekker at his first and only TDF had to support Rasmussen, he wasn't the leader as Gesink in the Vuelta. Plus Vuelta isn't the Tour. Still I think that they will be help Evans and Menchov, then if they can get the white jersey it's perfect.
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ruben
Well I think except Cancellara and Voigt, CSC's doesn't have much tt-ers, and there is a TTT, a 15km prologue (so simply a short TT) and a long time trial. It isn't really to the advantage of Andy Schleck or Robert Gesink against time trial specialists as Dekker and Kreuziger.
 
Deadpool
CrueTrue wrote:
13 teams have been given WildCard licenses. This means that they can participate in UCI's Pro Tour races.

• Vorarlberg – Corratec (Austria)
• Landbouwkrediet – Colnago (Belgium)
• Topsport Vlaanderen – Mercator (Belgium)
• Andalucia – Cajasur (Spain)
• Contentpolis – AMPO (Spain)
• Barloworld (Great Britain)
• Ceramica Flaminia – Bossini Docce (Ireland)
• ISD (Italy)
• Skil – Shimano (Holland)
• Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team (Holland)
• Cervelo Test Team (Switzerland)
• BMC Racing Team (USA)
• Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni – Androni Giocattoli (Venezuela)


More amazing than this list is the list of teams that weren't given a wildcard. LPR, Agritubel, Acqua e Sapone, and Xacobeo all did not receive one.
 
issoisso
Deadpool wrote:
More amazing than this list is the list of teams that weren't given a wildcard. LPR, Agritubel, Acqua e Sapone, and Xacobeo all did not receive one.


Because they refuse to be tested for drugs as part of the biological passport programme. Which is a requisite to get a wild card.
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CrueTrue
Can anyone clarify whether this only counts for UPT races, or if it also counts for HIS?
 
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Rin
I think every UCI Pro Tour race (I heard so)

They took into account :

Team strength
following the rules
team management and transparency
and
the Anti-Doping things
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lagetcher
Article from cyclingnews:

The Italian Olympic Committee (CONI) summonsed Spanish Champion Alejandro Valverde to appear in Rome for possible ties to the 2006 doping investigation Operación Puerto. The CONI anti-doping prosecutor requested the Caisse d'Epargne rider, winner of two stages in the 2008 Tour de France, for February 16 at 12:00.

The Italian Olympic Committee reportedly has linked DNA samples taken from last year's Tour de France – presumably the stage into Italy, July 20 – to blood seized in the Operación Puerto investigation. In May 2006, Spain's Guardia Civil collected coded blood bags during its raid on the offices of Doctor Eufemiano Fuentes. (Read EPO blood bags attributed to code names.)

Internal documents from Madrid's Court 31 allegedly link Valverde to confiscated blood via codes Valv, Piti and 18. Despite attempts in the past years, authorities have not been able to prove links or stop Valverde from racing.

Valverde started his 2009 season this week in the Challenge Mallorca. His palmarès includes two editions of Liège-Bastogne-Liège, 2006 Flèche Wallonne and twice the International Cycling Union's ProTour classification.
 
Xavier
finally!!
now the rest of the spaniards pls
 
issoisso
So they took the sample for comparison at the 2008 Tour when it went through Italy.....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that the Giro also went through Italy this year.....no samples taken there from a rider purported to be the "A.C." marked in the bags?
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t-baum
issoisso wrote:
So they took the sample for comparison at the 2008 Tour when it went through Italy.....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that the Giro also went through Italy this year.....no samples taken there from a rider purported to be the "A.C." marked in the bags?

Dude, the giro doesn't go through Italy.

Contadope is clean!
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fefj
Ruben wrote:
Well I think except Cancellara and Voigt, CSC's doesn't have much tt-ers, and there is a TTT, a 15km prologue (so simply a short TT) and a long time trial. It isn't really to the advantage of Andy Schleck or Robert Gesink against time trial specialists as Dekker and Kreuziger.


Gustav Larsson, silver at the olympics ??

And even though there is a lot of tt'ing, i see Ventoux as a major advantage for both Andy, and Gesink Wink
 
issoisso
fefj wrote:
And even though there is a lot of tt'ing


I can't remember there ever being less TTing since time trials were introduced in the early 50s
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fefj
issoisso wrote:
fefj wrote:
And even though there is a lot of tt'ing


I can't remember there ever being less TTing since time trials were introduced in the early 50s


You remember the early 50's ? Smile
You're right though. Forgot to check the route before i opened my mouth Rolling Eyes But i still think Dekker has a good chance of winning the white jersey !
 
alexkr00
Ruben wrote:
Well I think except Cancellara and Voigt, CSC's doesn't have much tt-ers, and there is a TTT, a 15km prologue (so simply a short TT) and a long time trial. It isn't really to the advantage of Andy Schleck or Robert Gesink against time trial specialists as Dekker and Kreuziger.


Dekker and Kreuziger are favourite in TT's but there are also a lot of mountain stages where they could lose the time won it TT's.
And there are some stages that finish after a long downhill. There could be an another weakness for Gesink. If I remember well that's the way he lost the yellow jersey in Paris-Nice and almost lost the contact with the favourites group in one stage in Dauphine Libere though that he was on of the best on the climb.
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issoisso
It's also how Gesink lost Paris-Nice on a downhill. But Frans Maassen (or however it's spelled) also has a large share of the blame for that one.

"OH NOES A BREAK OF 2 RIDERS THAT ARE HOURS BEHIND ON GC HAS A 5 MINUTE LEAD. LET'S DROP OUR ENTIRE TEAM BY FURIOUSLY CHASING THEM AND LEAVE GESINK ISOLATED"
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alexkr00
but if I remember well except Gesink, Moerenhout was the only Rabo rider that could climb in Paris-Nice last year
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issoisso
alexkr00 wrote:
but if I remember well except Gesink, Moerenhout was the only Rabo rider that could climb in Paris-Nice last year


Exactly. The idiot Maasen had his team chase furiously and thus drop themselves. When Flecha stopped chasing (due to being dead) it was down to Gesink in the group, with Moorenhout and Flecha yo-yoing at the back of the pack...
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CrueTrue
issoisso wrote:
So they took the sample for comparison at the 2008 Tour when it went through Italy.....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that the Giro also went through Italy this year.....no samples taken there from a rider purported to be the "A.C." marked in the bags?


:lol: The guy's a TdF winner. You can't just give him a 2 year suspension, can ya'? Wink
 
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wackojackohighcliffe
CrueTrue wrote:
issoisso wrote:
So they took the sample for comparison at the 2008 Tour when it went through Italy.....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that the Giro also went through Italy this year.....no samples taken there from a rider purported to be the "A.C." marked in the bags?


:lol: The guy's a TdF winner. You can't just give him a 2 year suspension, can ya'? Wink



oh dont be so cynicalWink:lol:
 
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