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| Deadpool |
Posted on 15-10-2008 13:20
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Ruben wrote:
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Presently, Hushovd (he's good, but not that good), of all time (Ruben is going to kill me) Boogerd
If anyone was UNDER rated, then it was Boogerd. It always showed in the databases too. He was probably the strongest (that's different from best) hilly rider of the past 10 years, that's why every other hilly rider, who did have a sprint, chose his wheel. That way it was easy, the one who can follow Boogerd, will win the race.
Proven so for years. Bettini, Rebellin, Di Luca, Cunego, and some other profiteurs. And from those guys, he was the best climber as well (Tour de France wise), if Di Luca or Cunego can win the Giro, Boogerd could have won it too. Most underrated rider of the past decade.
Boogerd was a strong rider, but he never won anything after he won AGR that first year. Thats the reason I consider him overrated, on paper he was as strong as anyone |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 15-10-2008 13:22
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He never won anything because the others just sucked he's wheel and out sprinted him, because he can't sprint, didn't you read what Ruben said?
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 15-10-2008 13:35
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Deadpool wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Presently, Hushovd (he's good, but not that good), of all time (Ruben is going to kill me) Boogerd
If anyone was UNDER rated, then it was Boogerd. It always showed in the databases too. He was probably the strongest (that's different from best) hilly rider of the past 10 years, that's why every other hilly rider, who did have a sprint, chose his wheel. That way it was easy, the one who can follow Boogerd, will win the race.
Proven so for years. Bettini, Rebellin, Di Luca, Cunego, and some other profiteurs. And from those guys, he was the best climber as well (Tour de France wise), if Di Luca or Cunego can win the Giro, Boogerd could have won it too. Most underrated rider of the past decade.
Boogerd was a strong rider, but he never won anything after he won AGR that first year. Thats the reason I consider him overrated, on paper he was as strong as anyone Meh, you're both saying the same thing. Boogerd's strength was relatively better than his results.
So, from the results point of view, given his strength, he was overrated, but from the strength point of view if you only look at his results he was underrated.
Question without any precision is now : was Boogerd overrated ?
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 15-10-2008 14:12
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Deadpool wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Presently, Hushovd (he's good, but not that good), of all time (Ruben is going to kill me) Boogerd
If anyone was UNDER rated, then it was Boogerd. It always showed in the databases too. He was probably the strongest (that's different from best) hilly rider of the past 10 years, that's why every other hilly rider, who did have a sprint, chose his wheel. That way it was easy, the one who can follow Boogerd, will win the race.
Proven so for years. Bettini, Rebellin, Di Luca, Cunego, and some other profiteurs. And from those guys, he was the best climber as well (Tour de France wise), if Di Luca or Cunego can win the Giro, Boogerd could have won it too. Most underrated rider of the past decade.
Boogerd was a strong rider, but he never won anything after he won AGR that first year. Thats the reason I consider him overrated, on paper he was as strong as anyone
Ruben you are overreacting. he wasn't the best climber. he was a good teammate and climber , but he never would be able to lead a team in a GT.
Dekker on the other hand might win a GT someday ( i believe)
in hte hilly classics he was one of the best/strongest not the.
i think he was amongst the top 5
Edited by Stijn_vranken on 15-10-2008 14:14
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-10-2008 14:53
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He was a strong climber, of the non-epo takers probably the strongest on giro level, i'm sure he was better than di luca so he could have won the giro |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 15-10-2008 15:03
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What exactly is "Giro Level"? |
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| Ricco_Broeck |
Posted on 15-10-2008 15:27
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The most overrated is The Grande Boucle !
no , but the most overrated , with the high expectations for this season must be Damiano Cunego and under rated is Bruseghin maybe ? |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 15-10-2008 15:30
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Most underrated rider - 19th best mountain biker 2005, Ruben Lampe
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-10-2008 15:38
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gaaaah crommy stole my thought
except I was gonna say overrated.
I mean c'mon, he hasn't had a single result worth mentioning |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 15-10-2008 16:14
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sometimes its more than results
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-10-2008 16:22
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I made all the races, it doesn't show in the results |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-10-2008 16:39
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
sometimes its more than results
Ok, let's put it this way: HE NEVER RODE A SINGLE RACE.
So, saying he's the 16th best in the world is overrating him. Happy now? |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 15-10-2008 16:46
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issoisso wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
sometimes its more than results
Ok, let's put it this way: HE NEVER RODE A SINGLE RACE.
So, saying he's the 16th best in the world is overrating him. Happy now?
Hey, be nice Isso, British people never have been really good with, "logic".
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-10-2008 16:50
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Why, that hurts me Isso. I rode at the student national championships a few times, so saying I never rode a single race is a lie  |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 15-10-2008 17:19
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t-baum wrote:
issoisso wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
sometimes its more than results
Ok, let's put it this way: HE NEVER RODE A SINGLE RACE.
So, saying he's the 16th best in the world is overrating him. Happy now?
Hey, be nice Isso, British people never have been really good with, "logic".
Considering youre American, your attempted insult means nothing
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 15-10-2008 17:27
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t-baum wrote:
issoisso wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
sometimes its more than results
Ok, let's put it this way: HE NEVER RODE A SINGLE RACE.
So, saying he's the 16th best in the world is overrating him. Happy now?
Hey, be nice Isso, British people never have been really good with, "logic".
and neither have you.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 15-10-2008 17:39
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issoisso wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
sometimes its more than results
Ok, let's put it this way: HE NEVER RODE A SINGLE RACE.
So, saying he's the 16th best in the world is overrating him. Happy now?
I know the story - it was a failed attempt at a joke
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| t-baum |
Posted on 15-10-2008 18:14
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SportingNonsense wrote:
t-baum wrote:
issoisso wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
sometimes its more than results
Ok, let's put it this way: HE NEVER RODE A SINGLE RACE.
So, saying he's the 16th best in the world is overrating him. Happy now?
Hey, be nice Isso, British people never have been really good with, "logic".
Considering youre American, your attempted insult means nothing
Coming from a brit.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| Hasselinhoo |
Posted on 15-10-2008 18:44
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