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Ricco positive for EPO
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-07-2008 18:10
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It's the guardian. I'll reserve belief until I see a creditable source 
EDIT: now that I've read it, it reads just like the usual gaggle of lies from the guardian.
Edited by issoisso on 22-07-2008 18:11
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| Crazy_Ivan |
Posted on 22-07-2008 18:14
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issoisso wrote:
It's the guardian. I'll reserve belief until I see a creditable source
EDIT: now that I've read it, it reads just like the usual gaggle of lies from the guardian.
Yes of course, the Guardian always lies. Did you notice that it lists the source and quote? |
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Posted on 22-07-2008 18:18
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It's the Guardian. Come on. Believe what you want, but not that trash.
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Posted on 22-07-2008 18:20
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Jeezo, come on, it is a direct quote from the head of the French anti doping agency. There is no conjecture in there at all.
Im not discussing the merits of the Guardian here.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-07-2008 18:23
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Crazy_Ivan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
It's the guardian. I'll reserve belief until I see a creditable source
EDIT: now that I've read it, it reads just like the usual gaggle of lies from the guardian.
Yes of course, the Guardian always lies. Did you notice that it lists the source and quote?
Off the top of my head, things wrong with the article:
1. I find it highly doubtful that Riccò ran away. that would be unbelievably stupid on his part;
2. Riccò had no way of knowing CERA had suddenly become traceable;
3. He wasn't "tested after every stage" as the article states. He was tested after the 4th stage, when Saunier was the team randomly selected to be tested and after the 6th and 9th stages as stage winner;
4. He tested positive after the 4th stage. The article states the 12th when he wasn't even in the race by the 12th;
Again: until it shows up somewhere else, I won't give the guardian any credit. Doesn't mean it's not true. Just means I don't trust the Guardian.
And since you're being aggressive with me when I've done no such thing to you, allow me to respond the same way on an unrelated matter: next time you steal posts from people here to post in other forums, try giving people credit instead of presenting the posts, ideas and facts as your own.
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Posted on 22-07-2008 18:26
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https://sports.esp...NHeadlines
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Posted on 22-07-2008 18:30
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Now THERE is a credible source
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Posted on 22-07-2008 18:32
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Oh and Isso Isso I did use some of your points on another forum. But I clearly suggested that it was not my work.
"Here is an interesting watt rundown that I picked up"
" thought I would provide a timeline that I sourced"
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Posted on 22-07-2008 18:33
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Crazy_Ivan wrote:
Oh and Isso Isso I did use some of your points on another forum. But I clearly suggested that it was not my work.
"Here is an interesting watt rundown that I picked up"
" thought I would provide a timeline that I sourced"
I was talking about one of Aquarius' rants, I didn't even know you mentioned me. Anyway, this is not the place for that talk.
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Posted on 23-07-2008 12:54
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Riccardo Riccò was caught by a special molecule placed in the banned substance he is said to have taken, the head of the World Anti-Doping Agency told the Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio today. John Fahey said that Roche Pharmaceuticals had placed a special molecule in the product CERA when it developed the drug, which would help the anti-doping authorities to detect its illegal use.
"I can't tell you the details of how he was detected," Fahey said. "I can indicate the particular substance is called CERA … which is a perfectly legitimate substance to deal with anaemia. In the development of that substance close cooperation occurred between WADA and the pharmaceutical company Roche Pharmaceuticals so that there was a molecule placed in the substance well in advance that was always going to be able to be detected once a test was undertaken."
Fahey noted that there was increased cooperation between sports authorities and drug manufacturers. "There's more and more of this occurring," he said. "The more cooperation the scientists can have with the drug companies in the detection of performance-enhancing drugs the greater the likelihood is they will be detected when tests are undertaken."
Riccò tested positive for EPO after winning two stages in the Tour. He was expelled from the Tour and fired by Team Saunier Duval-Scott. (SW)
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Posted on 23-07-2008 12:56
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Just about to post that 
Anyway, good development from the drug manufacturer, at least it's caught out somebody. But it most probably won't again
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Posted on 23-07-2008 13:01
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genious! absolutly genious! |
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Posted on 23-07-2008 13:01
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Great news that there is better Cooperation, big step. |
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