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| Heine |
Posted on 07-11-2013 19:14
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cio93 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
More of this to come in this transfer season too. I don't want to get many young talents, but I think I cannot resist to be fair
I might be able to resist in the very specific case of signing one certain German... 
You better, as I wont :-p Next season will most likely be a "vacation" season for my team, waiting for Zabel, Zepuntke, Brenes, Anacona, Preidler etc to max out for a promotion battle the following season. So I "might"go for a certain german...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-11-2013 06:00
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Finally caught up with the action, great reports Roturn, worth this exciting race.
Great 4th from Grosu for the start right there in the 1st stage, beating Demare was a nice bonus. At this point, i see Grosu as the pure sprinter training adept for the future, unlike Demare in eyes of Cio 
From that point it went a bit backwards for Eastern Europe team, we have no stage racers or pure punchers in the end, but Tanovitchii saved it somewhat with nice display in the 4th stage. He showed once more that he is very agressive rider.
More top10s from Grosu, nice display from Golovash + Zmorka in the TT and agressive Tanovitchii is all we can hope for for the rest of Avenir.
Congrats to all the winners so far.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 08-11-2013 06:01
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| ember |
Posted on 08-11-2013 06:09
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It's a surprise to see Ziesler hold on to that top 10 after four stages. There are absolutely no ambitions for him in the GC though, which goes for the rest of our team as well. Hopefully it was a good sign to see Holst Enger following the peloton on that hilly stage, thinking of the coming flat stage.
And thanks for the reports, roturn. It's really great to read such detailed reports about the up and coming riders.
Edited by ember on 08-11-2013 06:11
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-11-2013 06:17
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cio93 wrote:
I have to keep Kelderman until Jesleyh joins the ManGame and pays me 3m+ 
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| roturn |
Posted on 08-11-2013 10:17
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Krieger not ready yet it seems...even though he was badly blocked here.
Expect him to be back next year, when he is still able to ride his 3rd Avenir and hopefully takes a first stage win then with 77/77 sprint.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 10:33
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Craddock in the break. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-11-2013 10:36
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Grosu is fantastic, when u realize he has only 72/72 in sprint stats and is on 1st lvl. (with two more Avenir chances ahead of him, could be 72hills with 79/78 sprint in two years and without Demare in 2015).
Another top5 for him and the Eastern Europe team is great. It was clever to grab a wheel of Bennet obviously, maybe it would have been even better if Bennet had more room earlier.
Nice report once more Roturn.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 08-11-2013 11:08
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 08-11-2013 10:47
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Matthews... Well, looking forward to the mountains now anyway
And yes, great job with the reports!
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| aidanvn13 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 12:17
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Thanks for great reports, Roturn! And excellent pace as well Lutsenko is reall aggressive, which is nice. I was hoping Redecker could at least get involved. Looking forward to the mountain stages now, although I fear Dombrowski is injured from his crash.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 13:28
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Damn, Demare seemed way faster than anyone in the end. How about some better positioning, huh?
Nah, a podium is good with this opposition, though I wouldn't mind if the stage was 100 metres longer.
Now into the mountains. I would say keep that great GC spot Bongiorno if it wasn't for that stage 4... :/
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| jph27 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 15:52
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Had Oz not screwed up then Petit could have won. But 6th is good in this field |
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| tyriion |
Posted on 08-11-2013 17:26
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Not much of my riders yet  .
The reports are great as usual, nice to see one every night when I get home.
Check out my ManGame team here
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| roturn |
Posted on 08-11-2013 18:37
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Even 2 this time for you. I had more time today than I might have tomorrow, so here`s already the first mountain battle.
For me, Olivier again with a shit performance...he definitely needs another year to shine here. Still top20 would be great as hopefully the next mountain stages will lead to bigger gaps for the puncheurs.
Then again Thomas Koep as my rider loaned to Vesuvio is having a great ride here helping Kirsch and getting good results on his own.
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| Christer |
Posted on 08-11-2013 19:10
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Another disappointment from Dombrowski. I think he may be injured. That or he had a bad form for the day... Disappointed.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 19:21
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Thoroughly surprised by all three of our leaders.
How Vogt can hang on on such a brutal stage with 60 mountain is waay beyond me.
How Kelderman keeps overperforming and might actually have a shot at a Top 10 is quite a bit beyond me.
And how Bongiorno continues playing third fiddle (yeah, not even second) is the low point of our Avenir story so far.
Overall, that's two overperforming and one underperforming, so I can't be too unhappy.
Especially as we have yellow for another stage, and honestly, if Vogt can hang on on THIS stage...
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
At this point, i see Grosu as the pure sprinter training adept for the future, unlike Demare in eyes of Cio
Yes yes yes yes pleaaase
Edited by cio93 on 08-11-2013 19:21
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 08-11-2013 19:24
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Epic report! My mobilecrashed two times while trying to load, but it was worth the waiting
Bennett did well, obviously! He may have to attack in the mountain though, as his TT should be quite bad. Still, good to see him so far ahead and climbing so well and in the GC. Can't complain after some rather disappointing sprint-stages!
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 08-11-2013 19:36
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cio93 wrote:
Thoroughly surprised by all three of our leaders.
How Vogt can hang on on such a brutal stage with [b]60 mountain is waay beyond me.
How Kelderman keeps overperforming and might actually have a shot at a Top 10 is quite a bit beyond me.
And how Bongiorno continues playing third fiddle (yeah, not even second) is the low point of our Avenir story so far.[/b]
Overall, that's two overperforming and one underperforming, so I can't be too unhappy.
Especially as we have yellow for another stage, and honestly, if Vogt can hang on on THIS stage...
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
At this point, i see Grosu as the pure sprinter training adept for the future, unlike Demare in eyes of Cio
Yes yes yes yes pleaaase
Considering the state of PCM12 Moutain AI - its not surprising at all. Happens well too often.
This is why move from this to PCM13 will finally at least differentiate this so much.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 19:49
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Elissonde and Bardet continue to disappoint. McCarthy doing well though and Myagmarsuren is ahead of Dombrowski |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 19:53
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Alakagom wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Thoroughly surprised by all three of our leaders.
How Vogt can hang on on such a brutal stage with [b]60 mountain is waay beyond me.
How Kelderman keeps overperforming and might actually have a shot at a Top 10 is quite a bit beyond me.
And how Bongiorno continues playing third fiddle (yeah, not even second) is the low point of our Avenir story so far.[/b]
Overall, that's two overperforming and one underperforming, so I can't be too unhappy.
Especially as we have yellow for another stage, and honestly, if Vogt can hang on on THIS stage...
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
At this point, i see Grosu as the pure sprinter training adept for the future, unlike Demare in eyes of Cio
Yes yes yes yes pleaaase
Considering the state of PCM12 Moutain AI - its not surprising at all. Happens well too often.
This is why move from this to PCM13 will finally at least differentiate this so much.
But on the other hand we'll get at least one season where noone gives a fuck about RES.
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| SotD |
Posted on 08-11-2013 20:01
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Koretzky moving up to 8th. Obviously he can't stay there for the entire race, but it's a pretty nice race for him so far.
Although stagewise it's rather dull for us.
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