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| cio93 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 15:45
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Bojan wrote:
TT also increases when you train as climber.
Sure, but far slower.
I prefer TT over hills, simply because it's obviously much easier to hang onto better riders in hilly stages than in TTs.
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:30
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Bojan wrote:
TT also increases when you train as climber.
Not anywhere near as well, with training as a climber you get no bonus to TT, as a stage racer you get +2.
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:31
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cio93 wrote:
Bojan wrote:
TT also increases when you train as climber.
Sure, but far slower.
I prefer TT over hills, simply because it's obviously much easier to hang onto better riders in hilly stages than in TTs.
The biggest reason I really like Puncher is the increase in resistance, which helps everything. Also for that rider, if his stats were more balanced I would agree more, but as they are currently he will lose time in hilly stages pretty badly until his hill stat gets near his mountain stat.
Edited by Kentaurus on 24-03-2013 16:35
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| LLDS |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:55
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Jesleyh wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
I'd train him as a climber instead of stage racer, no?
No, I think his TT quality can get about 75-77, so definitely a stage racer...
Are you sure his TT stats will reach 75-77 ? I think 75 it will be the max of his TT stats, but maybe I'm wrong. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-03-2013 17:03
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LLDS wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
I'd train him as a climber instead of stage racer, no?
No, I think his TT quality can get about 75-77, so definitely a stage racer...
Are you sure his TT stats will reach 75-77 ? I think 75 it will be the max of his TT stats, but maybe I'm wrong.
I wasn't sure, that's why I said 75-77.
It could be 75 indeed, but I believe 5 stars is 12-14 progression levels left.
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| LLDS |
Posted on 24-03-2013 17:05
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I thought 5 stars means 10-12, but I don't know for sure. |
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| mvhoogdalem |
Posted on 24-03-2013 18:38
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I just checked it in an editor as I am never sure with the stars. He has a limit in TT of 79, so it seems that 5 stars are 13-15 points or something like that...  |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-03-2013 18:42
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mvhoogdalem wrote:
I just checked it in an editor as I am never sure with the stars. He has a limit in TT of 79, so it seems that 5 stars are 13-15 points or something like that...
Definitely train him as a stage-racer then
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| anderspcm |
Posted on 25-03-2013 10:51
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mvhoogdalem wrote:
He won the mountain stage in the Ronde de l'Isard. He will be an awesome stage racer in the future  I like him, he'll definitely be able bo compete in the Tour de France
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| cio93 |
Posted on 26-03-2013 16:39
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Most probably the first Korean TdF winner ever:
I couldn't resist checking his stat limits: 82MO, 80TT 
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 26-03-2013 16:40
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Wow, nice one!
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-03-2013 16:57
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Wow, that Korean guy is really good. Hope his hill grows nicely(although theoretically, it could become 85 with 6 star potential )
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 26-03-2013 16:57
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Great rider there cio. |
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| LLDS |
Posted on 26-03-2013 17:15
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cio93 wrote:
Most probably the first Korean TdF winner ever:
I couldn't resist checking his stat limits: 82MO, 80TT
Nice rider. From Scouting or U23 Rankings ?
Why did you assign him only a National trainer (I assume your trainer has no more of 7 in Stage Races stat) ? He needs a Legendary trainer (9 or 10) in Stage Races for a quick development. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-03-2013 17:16
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LLDS wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Most probably the first Korean TdF winner ever:
I couldn't resist checking his stat limits: 82MO, 80TT
Nice rider. From Scouting or U23 Rankings ?
Why did you assign him only a National trainer (I assume your trainer has no more of 7 in Stage Races stat) ? He needs a Legendary trainer (9 or 10) in Stage Races for a quick development.
He's conti Pro, so he might not have the budget for it. And a 7 in Stage Races isn't that bad
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| cio93 |
Posted on 26-03-2013 17:21
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Jesleyh wrote:
LLDS wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Most probably the first Korean TdF winner ever:
I couldn't resist checking his stat limits: 82MO, 80TT
Nice rider. From Scouting or U23 Rankings ?
Why did you assign him only a National trainer (I assume your trainer has no more of 7 in Stage Races stat) ? He needs a Legendary trainer (9 or 10) in Stage Races for a quick development.
He's conti Pro, so he might not have the budget for it. And a 7 in Stage Races isn't that bad
Scouting. South Korea doesn't participate in U23 races
Indeed, I started with Nippo - De Rosa and promoted.
My strategy is to get as many Asian talents as possible (I have 2 Chinese, 3 Korean and 2 Malaysian neo-pros), which takes me lots of scouts. Therefore, I try to be very efficient when it comes to trainers.
This one has 8 in stage races, but basically nothing useful elsewhere.
I have 8 stage racers though, so it's perfect
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| anderspcm |
Posted on 26-03-2013 23:03
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Nice rider, he should be able to pull of a win on the Tour de France
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| LLDS |
Posted on 27-03-2013 08:34
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Since we are discussing about young riders, I have a little question : how do we found the Northern Classics specialists ? I mean the COB riders.
On the map only 1 or 2 regions have Northern Classics specialization. That doesn't mean that the other regions don't have this specialization, but you have to admit that there are very few Classics men on scouting.
They are even fewer on U23 ranking and more than that, it is impossible to guess them. The hilly and mountain stages give an idea about the best climbers / punchers, the TT about the TT specialization, the flat stages about sprinters (the easiest specialization to find, in my opinion). But we don't have a COB stage to find a good COB rider.
The only chance is to have a rider from another specialization who has a good COB stats (I took a sprinter which proves to have a 75-77 COB limit, but isn't enough to win Paris-Roubaix) or to have some luck like CartofCubic.
I am trying to replace Cancellara and I have difficulties on finding o good COB rider.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 27-03-2013 08:41
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Not that hard. Look for guys who for example win sprints.
If a winner or Top 3 in sprints has 'Nothern Classics' as speciality, then he's a good classic rider(He's a good sprinter, but his spec. is classics, so he's a better cobbler than sprinter, or will develop in a better cobbler than sprinter)
This works for puncheurs too, and sometimes fighters and climbers...
An other option is to add an (easy) cobbled race to the U23 calendar
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| anderspcm |
Posted on 27-03-2013 12:36
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Here is two of my riders. Will Parker is my greatest talent, I have really high expectations about him. I signed him from the u23 list, when he was 20 years old.
Chernetskiy isn't a talent anymore, but I just wanted to show him, because he is actually pretty good due to his mountain and TT stats
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Edited by anderspcm on 27-03-2013 12:37
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