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La Vuelta 2012 expectations
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| lokytrew |
Posted on 30-07-2012 09:46
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I don't think those steaks had any influence on his performance. But I still think that he will be stronger than Froome. I hope Uran and Henao get free roles, they are awesome.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 30-07-2012 11:01
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Since Froome doesn't have the balls to ride for himself, I wonder how he'll cope with being team leader, though it could be that he's not going for GC, because he's tired from the Tour? It's very rare for riders to perform well in two GT's in a season, but with Team Sky you never know.
Edited by Wilier on 30-07-2012 11:01
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| Zanci93 |
Posted on 31-07-2012 09:39
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Strange feeling for me. Didn't think that I will be looking forward to the comeback of Contador but now i really do ! After one of the most boring TDF I have ever seen I expect a real firework from Contador during the Vuelta. Attack on every f*cking mountain and real fights between the GC-contenders 
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 31-07-2012 10:02
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Wilier wrote:
Since Froome doesn't have the balls to ride for himself, I wonder how he'll cope with being team leader
he took on cobo and won on a summit finish in lasts years one |
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 31-07-2012 10:21
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What a pity Andy Schleck won't ride the Vuelta. I was looking forward to a duel Contador - Schleck.
Thomas De Gendt will be motivated as hell (his honeymoon was an altitude training =D), but I think he's set his mind on one or more stage wins and if he has a good GC halfway, he might go for it.
I'm curious towards VDB's performance. His form might be better than during the Tour. I'm not sure if Jelle Vanendert will join him, but if he does, he definitely wants to make up for his bad Tour which can only benefit VDB.
Whoever said Gesink is better than De Gendt should brush up his cycling knowledge. Gesink is way overrated. |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 31-07-2012 10:34
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jsh312mufc wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Since Froome doesn't have the balls to ride for himself, I wonder how he'll cope with being team leader
he took on cobo and won on a summit finish in lasts years one
Ah, yes, when it was already very evident that Wiggins wouldn't win the Vuelta, he started to ride for himself, because he got the green light from Wiggins.
Edited by Wilier on 31-07-2012 10:35
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 31-07-2012 10:39
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MartijnVDD wrote:
Whoever said Gesink is better than De Gendt should brush up his cycling knowledge. Gesink is way overrated.
Do you even read what you're writing? There's no way De Gendt is a better climber/stage racer than Gesink. Yes, he has a third place in Il Giro but that's because of a breakaway and because a weak pack let him do that.
Gesink has a 7th place in first GT ever, then a 6th place in a race that he finished injured and a 5th place in Le Tour, where he had no work in the mountains for Menchov. Not to mention that he has won Giro dell'Emilia twice, Tour of California and had other good results in races like Paris-Nice, Tirreno Adriatico, Vuelta al Pais Vasco, Tour de Suisse, Dauphine and the Ardennes classics.
Please tell me again how De Gendt is better than Gesink and how Gesink is overrated.
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 31-07-2012 10:40
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Gesink is overrated for sure, but I agree that he is a far stronger racer than TDG.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 31-07-2012 10:42
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MartijnVDD wrote:
Whoever said Gesink is better than De Gendt should brush up his cycling knowledge. Gesink is way overrated.
I think you need to brush up your cycling knowledge, mate. Gesink has been very onfortunate with crashes and injuries the last two seasons.
And you honestly don't think De Gendt will be allowed any space to attack in the Vuelta, do you? At best De Gendt would be able to finish top 10.
And can anyone explain to me why people think Gesink's overrated? Is it because he's always injured?
Edited by Wilier on 31-07-2012 10:44
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 31-07-2012 10:45
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Wilier wrote:
jsh312mufc wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Since Froome doesn't have the balls to ride for himself, I wonder how he'll cope with being team leader
he took on cobo and won on a summit finish in lasts years one
Ah, yes, when it was already very evident that Wiggins wouldn't win the Vuelta, he started to ride for himself, because he got the green light from Wiggins.
showing he can ride for himself, and assuming he is leader from the start can seriously challenge |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 31-07-2012 10:45
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
Gesink is overrated for sure, but I agree that he is a far stronger racer than TDG.
He's not overrated. He just has the worst luck or he's bad at positioning in the peloton. I mean, from 4 Tour de France he has started, he crashed in all of them. Not to mention his major injury from last year.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 31-07-2012 10:48
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jsh312mufc wrote:
Wilier wrote:
jsh312mufc wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Since Froome doesn't have the balls to ride for himself, I wonder how he'll cope with being team leader
he took on cobo and won on a summit finish in lasts years one
Ah, yes, when it was already very evident that Wiggins wouldn't win the Vuelta, he started to ride for himself, because he got the green light from Wiggins.
showing he can ride for himself, and assuming he is leader from the start can seriously challenge
The question mark is his form. He's ridden the Tour, the Olympics RR and will ride the Olympics TT, meaning he'll have (almost) no time to rest for the Vuelta.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 31-07-2012 10:49
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jsh312mufc wrote:
Wilier wrote:
jsh312mufc wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Since Froome doesn't have the balls to ride for himself, I wonder how he'll cope with being team leader
he took on cobo and won on a summit finish in lasts years one
Ah, yes, when it was already very evident that Wiggins wouldn't win the Vuelta, he started to ride for himself, because he got the green light from Wiggins.
showing he can ride for himself, and assuming he is leader from the start can seriously challenge
That's exactly what I meant. Will he cope with that? |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 31-07-2012 11:22
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MartijnVDD wrote:
What a pity Andy Schleck won't ride the Vuelta. I was looking forward to a duel Contador - Schleck.
Wouldn't happen. A. Schleck doesn't care about anything but the Tour de France (cycling wise). To him Vuelta might be nice for night clubs, but that's it. 
MartijnVDD wrote:
Gesink is way overrated.
That always makes me smile, in any sport. "X is overrated. Y is underrated." That hardly makes sense on its own.
Who overrates or underrates X or Y ?
Edited by Aquarius on 31-07-2012 11:22
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 31-07-2012 11:38
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Well a better way of saying might be that a dominant social value among cycling fans is that Gesink is a rider capable of winning GTs and is on a level with guys like Van den Broeck and Nibali, which I believe to be untrue. He is of course a great rider but he leaves much to be desired and until he finishes a GT riding for himself and finishes top-3, it maybe at least wins a race like Paris -Nice, then I believe that social value to be untrue.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 31-07-2012 11:43
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alexkr00 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Gesink is overrated for sure, but I agree that he is a far stronger racer than TDG.
He's not overrated. He just has the worst luck or he's bad at positioning in the peloton. I mean, from 4 Tour de France he has started, he crashed in all of them. Not to mention his major injury from last year.
Gesink can be better then de Gent.
But he has started 4 Tour..and crashed all of them. This can not be just bad luck.
For example Nibbles..who isbsame class with Gesink..has been even weaker climber then Gesink. But he always deliveres he' s max result on final standings. This makes him much more valuable rider..as crashers like Soler, Gesink ever will be |
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| litllemagnum |
Posted on 31-07-2012 11:46
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Gesink is better than De Gendt. He has more talent but crashes hindered him in showing that. He's better than Van Den Broeck aswell.
Pozzato sucks!
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| depeche92 |
Posted on 31-07-2012 11:57
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Gesink no longer deserves to be considered a GC guy...can't ride a bike!! better he changes sport |
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| alex valceanu |
Posted on 31-07-2012 11:59
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For me Gesink aint a Talented rider anymore - he is a looser. Almost as big as Andy Schleck . No offence but I am right . |
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 31-07-2012 12:02
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De Gendt rode his first GT (Tour 2011) in 2011 with a collarbone fracture, finishing 6th on Alpe d'Huez and 4th in the last time trial. In his second GT (Giro 2012) he finished 3rd overall, winning a stage.
Remember this is 2012, not 2010. De Gendt's recent results are better than Gesink's. Injured or not.
Saying he's gonna ride a better Vuelta than De Gendt because he was good several years ago makes him overrated.
Edited by MartijnVDD on 31-07-2012 12:07
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