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Stuttgart 2007 - World Championships
Levi4life
Well if the stupid arab fuckers that run the fucking countries all the fuck around Israel wouldn't have attacked Israel god knows how many times in the past half century then maybe the Israeli's wouldn't dislike Arabs. The Israeli girl at my school says that Average Israelis and Average Palestiniains want to live together in peace but Terrorist fuck it all up. Both side are to fault but you can't claim that Palestinians aren't saints because if they were in charge they would fuck with Israelis too. You can't forget that Israelis die too.
I don't think they shoot arab kids for fun. that is inhuman, if the stupid arab kids start shooting guns and strapping bombs to their chests then what do you do?


Think of it this way. If you neighbor told his kid to strap a bomb to his chest and blow up your house what would you do?
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issoisso
Levi4life wrote:
Well if the stupid arab fuckers that run the fucking countries all the fuck around Israel wouldn't have attacked Israel god knows how many times in the past half century then maybe the Israeli's wouldn't dislike Arabs.


check how it all started. and you won't blame the arabs one bit. they had the land, the israelis drove them out. half a million people have lived in the same refugee camp for 60 years. yes, SIXTY.

Levi4life wrote:
Both side are to fault but you can't claim that Palestinians aren't saints because if they were in charge they would fuck with Israelis too. You can't forget that Israelis die too.


very well said and 100% true.

Levi4life wrote:
I don't think they shoot arab kids for fun. that is inhuman, if the stupid arab kids start shooting guns and strapping bombs to their chests then what do you do?


stop watching american media. watch news on the middle east from a neutral source for one whole day. you'll notice a marked difference. and you'll be appalled at the israeli soldiers.



and I've broken a promise. I swore I'd never discuss politics on this forum because I get very incensed at these issues. I'll stop looking at this thread now before I blow up.
Edited by issoisso on 20-09-2007 00:31
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Levi4life
I am not stupid. I know about the demolitions and the wall they are buidling around the west bank, the checkpoints, the food shortages, the unemployment but If the Palestinians really cared about how their government it run they would take an active role.

1776 representatives of the American colonies declared their independence from a tyranical government. That governament taxed the colonies to the hilt but would not allow a single representative of the colonies into the parliament. Then the British troops killed 5 americans at the Boston massacre and that is what started the American Revolution. If the Palestinians really, and I mean REALLY cared then they would try to make a difference.
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Balaverde
*cough cough* look at the name of the person you're talkin' to issoisso *cough cough*

That was immature, I admit that. I really understand why some Arab nations do not consider Israel an "independent state" - and NO I'm neither a member of the PLO, Hamas or Hizbollah.
 
zutcorp
guys, this subject is wayy too complex to be discussed in a forum. let it lie!
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CrueTrue
Back to topic, yes. There'a a politics thread if you want to continue on discussing the issue.
 
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mrlol
man put samuel sanchez on your list. he's in great form! he and freire are gonna be spains leaders, both able to win here.
 
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ruben
Absolutely, Samuel Sanchez confirmed he is in superb shape. Last year he could've won already in my opinion.
 
Dan_Grr
The politics thread.


 
mrlol
Ruben wrote:
Absolutely, Samuel Sanchez confirmed he is in superb shape. Last year he could've won already in my opinion.


maybe... but I don tthink his sprint would be better then bettini or zabel...
but this year it's an uphill sprint (IF it's gonna be a sprint) which should favor him.
 
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Valor
My favourite is Di Luca...but question is: Is he in the same superb shape as he was in spring? Also favourize Pozzato and it would maybe sound strange, but Wegmann looks strong to me, I don't think he can win, but he can at least get a medal.
 
CrueTrue
I think the route is too tough for Freire - he won't be able to keep up. With Sanchez' current form and his general abilities, the route fits him perfectly.
 
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issoisso
CrueTrue wrote:
I think the route is too tough for Freire - he won't be able to keep up.


my thought exactly.

anyone can win, really. a one-day race at this stage of the season is just... how many times has a favorite won the worlds in the last few years? very few.

anyway, I'm mostly looking at an in-form Sánchez, a Schumacher in amazing form (that's what I'm counting on) and the question mark called Di Luca. maybe Rebellín.
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Balaverde
I think the favourites have proved to be there every year!

Look at Freire and Bettini...
And we've said a dusin of times that the route is too harsh for Freire.

Last time he won, it was an even harder slope they crossed.
I know the finish is uphill this time, and my favourites are Sanchez and Schumi as well...
But Oscar seems to do it anyhow and everytime.
 
issoisso
what the hell is Leukemans doing??? that's the stupidest attack he could've done. somebody please shoot that idiot...


(nevermind me, I'm just practicing for next weekend Grin)
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rodda
issoisso wrote:
what the hell is Leukemans doing??? that's the stupidest attack he could've done. somebody please shoot that idiot...


(nevermind me, I'm just practicing for next weekend Grin)


bahahaha

on a more serious note, i know cycling.tv is broadcasting this in their UCI channel but is there any free feeds in that channel or do you have to pay to access it? otherwise do you know if any other online feeds will be shown?
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Dan_Grr
So off the record, what are everyone's top 3 favourites for the podium?



 
ruben
Sami Sanchez
Paolo Bettini
Oscar Freire
 
Levi4life
Christian Vande Velde
Danny Pate
Big George.


And for the TT
Zabriskie!
McCartney
Duggan
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Dan_Grr
I forgot to add to the post:

"[...]everyone's top 3 favourite riders for the podium, based on common sense?"
 
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