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2012 DB: Stat Discussions
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 04-02-2012 17:21
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From all young German riders in the DB Zabel should have the highest sprint stat, while riders like Bormann and Nottebohm (flat) are overrated. Dietrich should also have slightly better stats and a higher potential as he won the NCs.
More important, Bobridge´s TT stat should be about 77 instead of 72.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 04-02-2012 17:33
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issoisso wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
But Esteban Chaves has shown in more than just Avenir
He did?
valverde321 wrote:
, and apparently outclimbed his whole team in training camp (considering most of his team-mates stats are a little low imo, thats a great acheivement)
Not trying to be a negative nellie, but so did Lasse Bochman at the Saxo training camp at 2008, Jesús Hernández at the Astana training camp in 2009.....etc
It's a training camp, it doesn't really mean much 
Well no not really  He finished 14 at the Giro dell' Appennino and 19th at Route Adelie de Vitre.
And fair point.
I think 6 potential is alright for him though. For now.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 04-02-2012 17:33
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felix_29 wrote:
From all young German riders in the DB Zabel should have the highest sprint stat, while riders like Bormann and Nottebohm (flat) are overrated. Dietrich should also have slightly better stats and a higher potential as he won the NCs.
More important, Bobridge´s TT stat should be about 77 instead of 72.
Bobridge flat, resistance and TT has been increased in the new update I did 
About dopers/free riders, I didn't touch them yet, but they all will have realsitc stats in V1
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| kida |
Posted on 04-02-2012 17:41
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Alakagom wrote:
felix_29 wrote:
From all young German riders in the DB Zabel should have the highest sprint stat, while riders like Bormann and Nottebohm (flat) are overrated. Dietrich should also have slightly better stats and a higher potential as he won the NCs.
More important, Bobridge´s TT stat should be about 77 instead of 72.
Bobridge flat, resistance and TT has been increased in the new update I did
About dopers/free riders, I didn't touch them yet, but they all will have realsitc stats in V1
Just out of interest will Alexandr Kolobnev be in the dopers section? I only ask as I couldn't see him in the 2011 final version DB |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 04-02-2012 17:47
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He's already in the 2012 DB. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 04-02-2012 17:50
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kida wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
felix_29 wrote:
From all young German riders in the DB Zabel should have the highest sprint stat, while riders like Bormann and Nottebohm (flat) are overrated. Dietrich should also have slightly better stats and a higher potential as he won the NCs.
More important, Bobridge´s TT stat should be about 77 instead of 72.
Bobridge flat, resistance and TT has been increased in the new update I did
About dopers/free riders, I didn't touch them yet, but they all will have realsitc stats in V1
Just out of interest will Alexandr Kolobnev be in the dopers section? I only ask as I couldn't see him in the 2011 final version DB
In Public Beta 2012 DB, Kolobnev is in free riders section ( free riders without a team and dopers are in that 'tab' )
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| kida |
Posted on 04-02-2012 17:53
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CrueTrue wrote:
He's already in the 2012 DB.
Ok thanks CrueTrue. I know this maybe isn't the right place(if not you can move/delete the post) for this but, is the DB going to be as of 1/1/2012 or will Contador's ban be part of the DB? |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 04-02-2012 17:58
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As far as I know, Contador isn't banned, but if he is banned on Monday, he will be deleted from the DB (granted that his suspension doesn't run out in 2012). |
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| jkf |
Posted on 04-02-2012 22:34
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Luca ASCANI should be around 74 - 75 i mo, 74 hil and TT 73-75. ??
Finished 3 overall in Giro del Trentino 2011 and 4 in Tour de Slovénie.
that do you think ? |
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| andrebaptista |
Posted on 05-02-2012 09:22
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Ricardo Mestre from Carmim-Prio should have 72 in MO, 71/72 in Hills and 70 in Time-trials.
Giorgio Brambilla should be better in the sprint, he finished 4th in G.P. Costa degli Etruschi 2012 outsprinting Petacchi, Napolitano and Manuel Belletti. |
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| andodone |
Posted on 05-02-2012 09:53
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I think italian boy of Omega Pharma-Quickstep miss. Matteo Trentin is U23 italian champion. I think he should have 70-72 on flat and hills. And cobblestone too. |
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| jimycooper |
Posted on 05-02-2012 15:02
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Hi guys, don't think i've seen anything about svien tuft.
his cobble stat is 54 on the DB, but he had some good classics results last year, eg was 13th at E3 Prijs Vlaanderen - Harelbeke and won GP Stad Zottegem.
maybe 70/71? what do you think? |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 05-02-2012 15:28
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jkf wrote:
Luca ASCANI should be around 74 - 75 i mo, 74 hil and TT 73-75. ??
Finished 3 overall in Giro del Trentino 2011 and 4 in Tour de Slovénie.
that do you think ?
Agree to that. Maybe not as high as 75, but at least 71-73 in mountain.
Also, I think that Tom Danielson's stats are quite high. 78 climbing seems quite a lot to me for a guy who finished 9th in the Tour. Also his TT and secondary stats should be lowered a bit in my opinion.
Something like 75-76 mountain, 73-74 TT and two or three points less in stamina, resistance and recovery would be better if you ask me.
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Also I think Tobias Ludvisson's stats needs an update. He was 16th in last year's Vuelta a Burgos, where he also placed Top 20 on both the uphill finish in Clunia, and more importantly, atop the hard Lagunas de Neila climb.
Therefore I think he should be more of a climber / puncher than a sprinter, as he is in the DB. The TT is fine at 68 though.
I'd say 66-69 mo and 65-67 hill, while lowering his sprint a bit.
Edited by Pellizotti2 on 05-02-2012 15:39
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| andrebaptista |
Posted on 05-02-2012 21:53
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Andrew Fenn just won Trofeo Palma in a sprint finish. He won it ahead of Schulze, Porsev and Manuel Cardoso.
He should have more than 65 in sprint and 67 in flat, maybe 71 in sprint, 73 in flat and raise is endurance and acceleration.
In Il Lombardia Ricardo Chiarini finished 10th, maybe he should have 71/72 in mountains and hills instead of 69/69, with respective improves in endurance, resistance, recovery.
Finally Benjamin King finished 12th in Tour of Beijing, maybe e should be more complete, like with 68/69 in mountains, 70/71 in hills and 67/68 in time-trial, with respective improves in endurance, resistance, recovery.
Edited by andrebaptista on 05-02-2012 21:54
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| jona777 |
Posted on 05-02-2012 22:33
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Oliver Zaug should have higher climbing and hill stats (he won GP Lombardia)
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| ruben |
Posted on 06-02-2012 02:31
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sam1196 wrote:
Not everybody who wins Avenir becomes a great star....
Lets see how he does before already updating his potential.
Still Chavez should have 6 or 7 potential. This is not based on avenir alone. But you probably know jack shit about colombian cycling. I could tell you stories about Chavez that would scare any top climber nowadays shitless |
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 06-02-2012 05:47
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Tyler Farrar 82 in sprint, he's not so good !
Edited by Arberg27 on 06-02-2012 05:48
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 06-02-2012 05:57
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Arberg27 wrote:
Tyler Farrar 82 in sprint, he's not so good !
What makes you say that? I reckon he's just as good as Greipel, who are the only two I could see beating Cav, apart from maybe Kittel as well, if everything went right for him.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 06-02-2012 06:22
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jona777 wrote:
Oliver Zaug should have higher climbing and hill stats (he won GP Lombardia)
What other results does he have that would warrant that? His win in Lombardia was due to the fact that none of the favourites arrived with any form. Gilbert had been racing hard for months, for example, so he couldn't contend. Zaugg timed his attack perfectly but in reality he just isn't as strong as the other guys there. He is a great climbing domestique, granted, but he just isn't good enough to be a team leader in his own right.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 06-02-2012 06:28
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valverde321 wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
Tyler Farrar 82 in sprint, he's not so good !
What makes you say that? I reckon he's just as good as Greipel, who are the only two I could see beating Cav, apart from maybe Kittel as well, if everything went right for him.
I doubt Farrar is as good as Greipel, he should be max 81/81 imo..
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