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Tour de France 11 Stage 14: Saint-Gaudens > Plateau de Beille 168.5km
Kirchen_75
hillis91 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
I just see forcing him outside the time limit as a negative tactic.
Would you not rather see green won on the road as a battle rather than Cavendish being forced to lose the jersey by being eliminated on the mountains.


I'd rather see any rider playing his cards. With this year's system, Cavendish will win the jersey if he isn't Hors Délai in a mountain stage, so if that's what it takes for Gilbert to win the green, he should try.


Not happening.


You never know for sure, but not likely to happen..


I can't see Gilbert pulling off that. Who would pace the peloton? Vanendert won't haul for 120 km's...
Edited by CrueTrue on 16-07-2011 13:28
 
hillis91
Kirchen_75 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Apparently, it's not only Rojas complaining about Cavendish. Gilbert complained yesterday that Cavendish was being pulled by his team mates over the small climb before the intermediate sprint so he could contest it.


The same Gilbert who went 1km before the sprint, then complained about that?

The same Gilbert who wants to force Cavendish out the race to win green?

Sorry for not believing him Wink


That's ok, but where there's smoke, there's fire. And what is wrong with forcing him out of the race?


He he's trying to get him kicked out it's wrong. If he puts his team in front and rides hard on the mountain stages, thats fine.


I just see forcing him outside the time limit as a negative tactic.
Would you not rather see green won on the road as a battle rather than Cavendish being forced to lose the jersey by being eliminated on the mountains.


I'd rather see any rider playing his cards. With this year's system, Cavendish will win the jersey if he isn't Hors Délai in a mountain stage, so if that's what it takes for Gilbert to win the green, he should try.


Not happening.


You never know for sure, but not likely to happen..


I can't see Gilbert pulling off that. Who would pace the peloton? Vanendert won't haul for 120 km's...


And they can't put anybody in the break that the peleton wont let go either. So they can't do it on their own. But maybe Movistar will give them some help on that unsportsmanlike tactic?
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Kirchen_75
hillis91 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
I just see forcing him outside the time limit as a negative tactic.
Would you not rather see green won on the road as a battle rather than Cavendish being forced to lose the jersey by being eliminated on the mountains.


I'd rather see any rider playing his cards. With this year's system, Cavendish will win the jersey if he isn't Hors Délai in a mountain stage, so if that's what it takes for Gilbert to win the green, he should try.


Not happening.


You never know for sure, but not likely to happen..


I can't see Gilbert pulling off that. Who would pace the peloton? Vanendert won't haul for 120 km's...


And they can't put anybody in the break that the peleton wont let go either. So they can't do it on their own. But maybe Movistar will give them some help on that unsportsmanlike tactic?


Movistar doesn't seem to bother since they trying to get Costa in to breakaway.

Delage vs. Millar!
Edited by CrueTrue on 16-07-2011 13:28
 
Martin_TB
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According to Garmin-Cervelo Hushovd was clocked at 112kph descending yesterday! Or 69.6mph. That's quite fast #tdf2011
 
Kirchen_75
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Interesting name painting on the road: "Zlatan = Gay" ?? Any ideas? Someone not like Ibrahimovic?
 
I_Mayo
Kirchen_75 wrote:
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saddleblaze Blazin' Saddles
Interesting name painting on the road: "Zlatan = Gay" ?? Any ideas? Someone not like Ibrahimovic?


I thought about the same. But why would French or Basques care about Ibrahimovic?
 
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kumazan
How do you know there's only French and Basques there?
Edited by kumazan on 16-07-2011 12:32
 
FreitasPCM
Catalunya isn't that far away from the Pyrenees...
 
Anonymer
I_Mayo wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Some more tweets:

saddleblaze Blazin' Saddles
Interesting name painting on the road: "Zlatan = Gay" ?? Any ideas? Someone not like Ibrahimovic?


I thought about the same. But why would French or Basques care about Ibrahimovic?


Why would anyone in the world care about him ?
 
siwi
Gilbert is in problems it seems, new bike for him also. So he IS human! Shock Pfft
Edited by siwi on 16-07-2011 12:56
 
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Martin_TB
Interesting interview on ITV4 with Vaughters talking about David Millar in the break.

Said that he's there to cover it, and the plan was to try and get him in the break today.

He's not going to do a whole lot of work - there are too many in the group and it will probably split. He covering Linus G and Jens V who won't be working either as theya re waiting for the schleks.

He did say that if David Millar's legs were good when the get to the final climb that he might go for it. He's won a TT up the Plateau de Baie in the past and if he's feeling good then he could well win, esp if he has a lead!
 
doddy13
ooops.. Cavendish looks in trouble to me. Not just being dropped as normal.
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Stijn_vranken
siwi wrote:
Gilbert is in problems it seems, new bike for him also. So he IS human! Shock Pfft

change of bike. nothing serious
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around

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kgarvey
doddy13 wrote:
ooops.. Cavendish looks in trouble to me. Not just being dropped as normal.


Yeah it's gonna be a very tough day for cav, lets just hope he doesn't get eliminated, looking very possible at the moment.
 
Kirchen_75
doddy13 wrote:
ooops.. Cavendish looks in trouble to me. Not just being dropped as normal.


Struggling hard whereas Bernie looks easy and cool as you like. but Cav will rejoin at the descent

BTW. if i were a cyclist i would have had -5 legs today
Edited by Kirchen_75 on 16-07-2011 13:14
 
Pellizotti2
I would appreciate if they could speed up a bit in the pack now. 7 minutes will take some time to gain on the breakaway.
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doddy13
Pellizotti2 wrote:
I would appreciate if they could speed up a bit in the pack now. 7 minutes will take some time to gain on the breakaway.


On a climb it goes quite quickly actually.
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Pellizotti2
doddy13 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
I would appreciate if they could speed up a bit in the pack now. 7 minutes will take some time to gain on the breakaway.


On a climb it goes quite quickly actually.


I know, but what team will take responsibility? I don't think Europcar is gonna bring back the breakaway with Charteau sitting in it.
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usto
Who took the points in the sprint??
 
roturn
Delage - Millar - Bouet. So Delage winning all intermediates so far today. Wink
 
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