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CrueTrue
FDJ didn't. Of the French teams, AG2R got a Pro Team license.
 
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Ste117
The system for PT licenses needs looking at, its harsh on the French teams, who bring through their talent in the team and pay the price for it by not getting a top PT license.
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issoisso
There's a big mess with an austrian doping lab that claims to have developed a new method that can detect even the smallest of micro-doses of EPO, and the austrian federation not giving a crap, saying they only adopt new tests if WADA forces them to.

It's odd.
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Lachi
The austrian are in the same category as the spanish. They don't give a *** about fairplay as long as their athletes win. (Remember the cross country ski trainers at the olympics?)
Rumors say that the young athletes learn how to dope in the sports academies. (Not in the class of course but from the trainers, medicals, ...)
 
kumazan
I'm yet to find a country that actually gives an eff about fairplay as long as their athletes win, tbh. So I find it logical that no national federation want to be the first using that new test. It'd put their athletes in disadvantage with the rest of the world's.
 
Aquarius
kumazan wrote:
I'm yet to find a country that actually gives an eff about fairplay as long as their athletes win, tbh. So I find it logical that no national federation want to be the first using that new test. It'd put their athletes in disadvantage with the rest of the world's.

Tour de France 1998.
It's unsure whether Virenque and Festina would have managed to beat Ullrich and Pantani, but Ullrich even on dope during that TDF wouldn't have been as strong as the former year, as for Pantani, he didn't have the team (but would he have had the need of it ?).
It was arguably the best chance for a French rider and a French-based team (though officially Andorran) to win the Tour de France for the last time.
 
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kumazan
Yeah, credit to you Frenchies for that. Then the shit had hit the fan, and something had to be done.

But:

1) It's debatable whether that was really about fairplay.

2) When anti-doping fight doesn't go beyond cycling you KNOW it's not about fairplay.
 
Aquarius
Well the local rumours soon after that were that Marie-Georges Buffet (Youth & Sports Minister at the time) wanted to pick at doping in football during the World Cup. She'd been told it was out of question, that football was too big, so she targetted cycling (through the Tour de France) instead.
Just a rumour though, probably coming from some jealous cyclists. Pfft

And yes, I agree, the doping situation in France is far from good. Most of our best cycling teams are quite clean and reliable, and most of our track & field athletes can be trusted too (not those who go on training camps in the USA or in Kenya and get caught later on Pfft), but that's about it.
We're probably just as bad as the others in other sports or in lower categories... Sad
 
FreitasPCM
Michiel Elijzen and Mário Costa (Rui Costa's brother, recently involved in a positive anti-doping test) end their cycling careers.
 
schleck93
Elijzen was mentioned on the previous page. Wink
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FreitasPCM
It seems that Igor Astarloa has finally been suspended.
 
kumazan
A doping ring has been dismantled in Caen, France. Some cyclists, both pro and amateur have apparently been arrested, but no names have been leaked yet, as far as I know.

https://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves...-caen.html
Edited by kumazan on 01-12-2010 14:19
 
Aquarius
I'm not too sure which pros are from Normandy... I think the closer teams are Auber (in Paris) and Bretagne or Saur, or even Bernaudeau's team. Roubaix are based only 3 hours away too. Might be concerned.

Let's not speculate in vain, wait and see. Not a big surprise if amateurs are involved though, our amateurs are just as dirty as in whichever other country.
 
rjc_43
Dmitri Champion is from Normandy, is he not? He got surprisingly good after a year away from the Pro Tour...
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