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| Waghlon |
Posted on 05-01-2010 15:55
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Cobbs96 wrote:
Contadors clean theres no proof and until there is solid proof and the UCI suspend him i won't think other wise and where's the proof he was involved in operation puerto
Okay, so by that standard Cancellara is clean too.
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| Cobbs96 |
Posted on 05-01-2010 15:57
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Waghlon wrote:
Cobbs96 wrote:
Contadors clean theres no proof and until there is solid proof and the UCI suspend him i won't think other wise and where's the proof he was involved in operation puerto
Okay, so by that standard Cancellara is clean too. Okay but all im sayin is Contadors results are consistant and Cancellara's aren't
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 05-01-2010 16:01
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Cobbs96 wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Cobbs, Cobbs. Man, normally irish people is coldblooded, but you are hmm.....POKEMONblooded.
Contador is best stage racer in the world, any disagrements - no.
and thats ALL
Cancelarra is best TTrialer in the world, any disagrements - no.
Cancellara has won PR.
Cancellara has won TDF flat stage and Milano-Sanremo.
Cancellara has won TDS(even with silly mountains)
Cancellara RIDE ALL 3 TOURS OF 2009.
i hope to dont see any comments in this thread from you anymore.
What do you mean Pokemon blooded? and Contador is the best TT in the world and Cyclist Pound For Pound
How long have you watched cycling? By going thorugh this thread it is shocking how little you know.
Contador is not the best time trialist in the world... He beat a tired Cancellara who has worked his ass off for the Schlecks with 3 seconds.
On a time trial bike the riding position and technique is much more important than the strength of your legs, this is why Contador is a good time trialist. A road bike on the other hand, needs a lot of power to have larger speeds on the flats. Because Contador hasn't got anything near the raw power of Cancellara's legs he will never manage a stunt like Cancellara did in 2007.
Contador is not a good sprinter either, he lost to Colom  . He is capable to win a mountain sprint, but thats climbing ability and acceleration. In a sprint between Cancellara and Contador on a flat road Cancellara would crush Contador 
Saying that Cancellara is poor on cobbles is about as far fetched as saying that Contador can't climb. You are not poor when you have won the Paris Roubaix. As mentioned before me: Cancellara was just back from injury when he rode the Northern Classics.
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| Wiggo |
Posted on 05-01-2010 16:04
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Cobbs96 wrote:
Contadors not doped and how many Grand Tours has Talabardon won?
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 05-01-2010 16:06
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ponka00 wrote:
This is by far the most irritating thread I have read this year
I got some horrible news for you: There's another 359 days to change that fact.
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 05-01-2010 16:07
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Cobbs96 wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
Cobbs96 wrote:
Contadors clean theres no proof and until there is solid proof and the UCI suspend him i won't think other wise and where's the proof he was involved in operation puerto
Okay, so by that standard Cancellara is clean too. Okay but all im sayin is Contadors results are consistant and Cancellara's aren't
How is Cancellara's results not consistent? IMO there is a lot bigger chance that Contador is going to get caught doping than that Cancellara will |
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 05-01-2010 16:11
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Waghlon wrote:
ponka00 wrote:
This is by far the most irritating thread I have read this year
I got some horrible news for you: There's another 359 days to change that fact.
I forgot that it was 2010
Most irritating thread of the last two years 
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 05-01-2010 19:49
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ponka00 wrote:
Cobbs96 wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Cobbs, Cobbs. Man, normally irish people is coldblooded, but you are hmm.....POKEMONblooded.
Contador is best stage racer in the world, any disagrements - no.
and thats ALL
Cancelarra is best TTrialer in the world, any disagrements - no.
Cancellara has won PR.
Cancellara has won TDF flat stage and Milano-Sanremo.
Cancellara has won TDS(even with silly mountains)
Cancellara RIDE ALL 3 TOURS OF 2009.
i hope to dont see any comments in this thread from you anymore.
What do you mean Pokemon blooded? and Contador is the best TT in the world and Cyclist Pound For Pound
How long have you watched cycling? By going thorugh this thread it is shocking how little you know.
Contador is not the best time trialist in the world... He beat a tired Cancellara who has worked his ass off for the Schlecks with 3 seconds.
On a time trial bike the riding position and technique is much more important than the strength of your legs, this is why Contador is a good time trialist. A road bike on the other hand, needs a lot of power to have larger speeds on the flats. Because Contador hasn't got anything near the raw power of Cancellara's legs he will never manage a stunt like Cancellara did in 2007.
Contador is not a good sprinter either, he lost to Colom . He is capable to win a mountain sprint, but thats climbing ability and acceleration. In a sprint between Cancellara and Contador on a flat road Cancellara would crush Contador
Saying that Cancellara is poor on cobbles is about as far fetched as saying that Contador can't climb. You are not poor when you have won the Paris Roubaix. As mentioned before me: Cancellara was just back from injury when he rode the Northern Classics.
This is by far the most irritating thread I have read this year
if you ask my ponka, i just covered last results, because this 12 years old kid didnt know anything about end of 90's and first half of millenium. |
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| Cobbs96 |
Posted on 05-01-2010 20:01
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I_Mayo wrote:
ponka00 wrote:
Cobbs96 wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Cobbs, Cobbs. Man, normally irish people is coldblooded, but you are hmm.....POKEMONblooded.
Contador is best stage racer in the world, any disagrements - no.
and thats ALL
Cancelarra is best TTrialer in the world, any disagrements - no.
Cancellara has won PR.
Cancellara has won TDF flat stage and Milano-Sanremo.
Cancellara has won TDS(even with silly mountains)
Cancellara RIDE ALL 3 TOURS OF 2009.
i hope to dont see any comments in this thread from you anymore.
What do you mean Pokemon blooded? and Contador is the best TT in the world and Cyclist Pound For Pound
How long have you watched cycling? By going thorugh this thread it is shocking how little you know.
Contador is not the best time trialist in the world... He beat a tired Cancellara who has worked his ass off for the Schlecks with 3 seconds.
On a time trial bike the riding position and technique is much more important than the strength of your legs, this is why Contador is a good time trialist. A road bike on the other hand, needs a lot of power to have larger speeds on the flats. Because Contador hasn't got anything near the raw power of Cancellara's legs he will never manage a stunt like Cancellara did in 2007.
Contador is not a good sprinter either, he lost to Colom . He is capable to win a mountain sprint, but thats climbing ability and acceleration. In a sprint between Cancellara and Contador on a flat road Cancellara would crush Contador
Saying that Cancellara is poor on cobbles is about as far fetched as saying that Contador can't climb. You are not poor when you have won the Paris Roubaix. As mentioned before me: Cancellara was just back from injury when he rode the Northern Classics.
This is by far the most irritating thread I have read this year
if you ask my ponka, i just covered last results, because this 12 years old kid didnt know anything about end of 90's and first half of millenium. I'm not twelve and i do know about the end of the 90's and the first half of the millenium
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| Cobbs96 |
Posted on 05-01-2010 20:05
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ponka00 wrote:
Cobbs96 wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Cobbs, Cobbs. Man, normally irish people is coldblooded, but you are hmm.....POKEMONblooded.
Contador is best stage racer in the world, any disagrements - no.
and thats ALL
Cancelarra is best TTrialer in the world, any disagrements - no.
Cancellara has won PR.
Cancellara has won TDF flat stage and Milano-Sanremo.
Cancellara has won TDS(even with silly mountains)
Cancellara RIDE ALL 3 TOURS OF 2009.
i hope to dont see any comments in this thread from you anymore.
What do you mean Pokemon blooded? and Contador is the best TT in the world and Cyclist Pound For Pound
How long have you watched cycling? By going thorugh this thread it is shocking how little you know.
Contador is not the best time trialist in the world... He beat a tired Cancellara who has worked his ass off for the Schlecks with 3 seconds.
On a time trial bike the riding position and technique is much more important than the strength of your legs, this is why Contador is a good time trialist. A road bike on the other hand, needs a lot of power to have larger speeds on the flats. Because Contador hasn't got anything near the raw power of Cancellara's legs he will never manage a stunt like Cancellara did in 2007.
Contador is not a good sprinter either, he lost to Colom . He is capable to win a mountain sprint, but thats climbing ability and acceleration. In a sprint between Cancellara and Contador on a flat road Cancellara would crush Contador
Saying that Cancellara is poor on cobbles is about as far fetched as saying that Contador can't climb. You are not poor when you have won the Paris Roubaix. As mentioned before me: Cancellara was just back from injury when he rode the Northern Classics.
This is by far the most irritating thread I have read this year Contador is a better TT than Cancellara who didn't work his ass off for the Schlecks he maybe in one or two stages he worked his ass off but not all the tour
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 05-01-2010 20:12
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Cobbs96 wrote:
Contador is a better TT than Cancellara who didn't work his ass off for the Schlecks he maybe in one or two stages he worked his ass off but not all the tour
I refer you to the Monaco TT of the 2009 Tour, and the TT at the Beijing Olympics
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| Cobbs96 |
Posted on 05-01-2010 20:23
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Cobbs96 wrote:
Contador is a better TT than Cancellara who didn't work his ass off for the Schlecks he maybe in one or two stages he worked his ass off but not all the tour
I refer you to the Monaco TT of the 2009 Tour, and the TT at the Beijing Olympics In defense Paris nice TT 09 and the last TT of 09 tour
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| Wolfos |
Posted on 05-01-2010 20:26
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Cobbs96 wrote:
I'm not twelve and i do know about the end of the 90's and the first half of the millenium
Cobbs96 wrote:
Contador is a better TT than Cancellara who didn't work his ass off for the Schlecks he maybe in one or two stages he worked his ass off but not all the tour
Well, can you mention 2 TT's where Contador has beaten Cancellara? Cancellara didn't participate in Paris - Nice 09, by the way. |
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| Cobbs96 |
Posted on 05-01-2010 20:30
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Wolfos wrote:
Cobbs96 wrote:
I'm not twelve and i do know about the end of the 90's and the first half of the millenium
Cobbs96 wrote:
Contador is a better TT than Cancellara who didn't work his ass off for the Schlecks he maybe in one or two stages he worked his ass off but not all the tour
Well, can you mention 2 TT's where Contador has beaten Cancellara? Cancellara didn't participate in Paris - Nice 09, by the way. the TT in tour de France he beat Cancellara there aswell
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Posted on 05-01-2010 20:31
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Cobbs96 wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Cobbs96 wrote:
Contador is a better TT than Cancellara who didn't work his ass off for the Schlecks he maybe in one or two stages he worked his ass off but not all the tour
I refer you to the Monaco TT of the 2009 Tour, and the TT at the Beijing Olympics In defense Paris nice TT 09 and the last TT of 09 tour
The last tt of the 2009 tour is less relevant in terms of overall TT skill - recovery is so much more important late on a Grand Tour, and obviously as the top Grand tour rider that is one of Contadors strengths.
Even so, Contador only won by 3 seconds. In Monaco, Cancellara beat Contador by 18 seconds, and Beijing the gap was 1 minute and 18 seconds
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Cobbs96 wrote:In defense Paris nice TT 09 and the last TT of 09 tour
Your examples are again unsatisfactory, flawed, specious etc.
How many times must we tell you? Cancellara was not at Paris-Nice and did not win the final Tour TT because he does not have as good recovery skills as Contador - Let me reiterate: take the times when they were both together racing at either a single stage race or at the beginning of a stage race (cancelling out effects recovery) Beijing Olympics TT and Stage 1 in the TdF (as pointed out by a countless number of people). Cancellara won and won well, no arguments, please. |
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Not to mention in Peking Contador was clearly drafting behind Clements on one downhill.
And in the last Tour tt everybody said he had a more favourable wind and that the motorcycles were too close.
Edit: Oh and Cobbs are you a monkey. Stop repeating the sme thing, I think his posts should be considered spam.
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| Cobbs96 |
Posted on 05-01-2010 20:36
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Ok Cancellara is the best TT for now Contador is still developing and if Contador isn't the best pound for pound rider Nicholas Roache is good sprinter great hill good mountain and good timetrial and ok cobbles
Contador is best stage racer you can't argue
Edited by Cobbs96 on 05-01-2010 20:41
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Posted on 05-01-2010 20:44
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Bosskardo wrote:
Not to mention in Peking Contador was clearly drafting behind Clements on one downhill.
And in the last Tour tt everybody said he had a more favourable wind and that the motorcycles were too close.
Edit: Oh and Cobbs are you a monkey. Stop repeating the sme thing, I think his posts should be considered spam. I'm no monkey i'm only repeating the same thing to try to prove a point
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 05-01-2010 21:21
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Cobbs. When you go into an argument, you need to bring more ammunition than the same 5 arguments. Especially if two of them are wrong and useless...
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