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2008 Tour suspicious samples to be retested
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2009 11:34
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With the new CERA test that's been around only since April this year (notice how the number of positives went up tremendously since then).
The samples in question are a large number of samples that, when tested for CERA last year, showed suspicious values, but not enough to warrant a positive.
In September they're scheduled for retesting with the brand new EPO detection methods.
Expect positives. |
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| Eddy Merckx |
Posted on 26-07-2009 11:49
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These suspicious samples from the 2008 Tour do we know any more information about who it might be or? |
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 26-07-2009 12:03
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Good news  |
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| knasen |
Posted on 26-07-2009 12:11
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Great news. But I dont know what riders in the top 10 who might go down. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2009 12:15
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Eddy Merckx wrote:
These suspicious samples from the 2008 Tour do we know any more information about who it might be or?
At the time of the first re-testing, several news media reported the same unofficial information, which was quite a "coincidence". At the time they reported 2 AG2R, 2 Gerolsteiner (Kohl and Schumacher), 2 Scott (Piepoli and Riccò), 2 Columbia, 5 CSC and few random unnamed other teams with 1 rider a piece. |
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| kirosha |
Posted on 26-07-2009 12:17
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issoisso wrote:5 CSC
WOW  |
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| knasen |
Posted on 26-07-2009 12:17
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If the five CSC saxo bank is true that would be a hard for cycling. And for Damsgaard, Mr doctor clean. |
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| Roman |
Posted on 26-07-2009 12:19
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Nobody will be catch  That will be like retesting Giro 08... 
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| knasen |
Posted on 26-07-2009 12:20
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Roman wrote:
Nobody will be catch That will be like retesting Giro 08...
Of course Sella, and the CSF squad was clean then and the week after the Giro they began with Cera.  |
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| Eddy Merckx |
Posted on 26-07-2009 12:23
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issoisso wrote:
Eddy Merckx wrote:
These suspicious samples from the 2008 Tour do we know any more information about who it might be or?
At the time of the first re-testing, several news media reported the same unofficial information, which was quite a "coincidence". At the time they reported 2 AG2R, 2 Gerolsteiner (Kohl and Schumacher), 2 Scott (Piepoli and Riccò), 2 Columbia, 5 CSC and few random unnamed other teams with 1 rider a piece.
Interesting...
Maybe Kirchen at Columbia or was the last tour not that sensational? |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 26-07-2009 12:27
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While a good development i still dont think they will catch anyone...
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 26-07-2009 14:17
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Start List From the 08 Tour
Silence-Lotto
(director: Herman Frison)
1. Cadel Evans (Aus)
2. Mario Aerts (B)
3. Christophe Brandt (B)
4. Dario Cioni (I)
5. Leif Hoste (B)
6. Robbie McEwen (Aus)
7. Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr)
8. Johan Van Summeren (B)
9. Wim Vansevenant (B)
CSC-Saxo Bank
(director: Kim Andersen)
11. Carlos Sastre (Sp)
12. Kurt-Asle Arvesen (N)
13. Fabian Cancellara (Swi)
14. Volodymir Gustov (Ukr)
15. Stuart O'Grady (Aus)
16. Andy Schleck (Lux)
17. Frank Schleck (Lux)
18. Nicki Sørensen (Dk)
19. Jens Voigt (G)
Euskaltel-Euskadi
(director: Gorka Gerrikagoitia)
21. Haimar Zubeldia (Sp)
22. Mikel Astarloza (Sp)
23. Iñaki Isasi (Sp)
24. Egoi Martinez (Sp)
25. Juan José Oroz (Sp)
26. Ruben Perez (Sp)
27. Samuel Sanchez (Sp)
28. Amets Txurruka (Sp)
29. Gorka Verdugo (Sp)
Caisse d'Épargne
(director: Jose-Luis Jaimerena)
31. Alejandro Valverde (Sp)
32. David Arroyo (Sp)
33. Arnaud Coyot (F)
34. Vicente Garcia Acosta (Sp)
35. Ivan Gutierrez (Sp)
36. David Lopez (Sp)
37. Oscar Pereiro (Sp)
38. Nicolas Portal (F)
39. Luis Leon Sanchez (Sp)
Team Columbia
(director: Brian Holm)
41. Kim Kirchen (Lux)
42. Marcus Burghardt (G)
43. Mark Cavendish (GB)
44. Gerald Ciolek (G)
45. Bernhard Eisel (A)
46. Adam Hansen (Aus)
47. George Hincapie (USA)
48. Thomas Lövkvist (S)
49. Kanstantsin Sivtsov (Blr)
Barloworld
(director: Valerio Tebaldi)
51. Mauricio Soler (Col)
52. John-Lee Augustyn (SA)
53. Felix Cardenas (Col)
54. Gianpaolo Cheula (I)
55. Baden Cooke (Aus)
56. Moises Duenas (Sp)
57. Christopher Froome (GB)
58. Robert Hunter (SA)
59. Paolo Longo (I)
Liquigas
(director: Stefano Zanatta)
61. Filippo Pozzato (I)
62. Manuel Beltran (Sp)
63. Francesco Chicchi (I)
64. Murilo Fischer (Bra)
65. Roman Kreuziger (Cz)
66. Aleksandr Kuschynski (Blr)
67. Vincenzo Nibali (I)
68. Manuel Quinziato (I)
69. Frederik Willems (B)
Lampre
(director: Maurizio Piovani)
71. Damiano Cunego (I)
72. Alessandro Ballan (I)
73. Matteo Bono (I)
74. Marzio Bruseghin (I)
75. Marco Marzano (I)
76. Massimiliano Mori (I)
77. Daniele Righi (I)
78. Sylvester Szmyd (Pl)
79. Paolo Tiralongo (I)
Crédit Agricole
(director: Serge Beucherie)
81. Thor Hushovd (N)
82. William Bonnet (F)
83. Alexandre Botcharov (Rus)
84. Jimmy Engoulvent (F)
85. Dmitriy Fofonov (Kaz)
86. Simon Gerrans (Aus)
87. Christophe Le Mevel (F)
88. Rémi Pauriol (F)
89. Mark Renshaw (Aus)
Quick Step
(director: Wilfried Peeters)
91. Stijn Devolder (B)
92. Carlos Barredo (Sp)
93. Matteo Carrara (I)
94. Steven De Jongh (Nl)
95. Mauro Facci (I)
96. Sebastien Rosseler (B)
97. Gert Steegmans (B)
98. Matteo Tosatto (I)
99. Jurgen Van de Walle (B)
AG2R-La Mondiale
(director: Vincent Lavenu)
101. Cyril Dessel (F)
102. Jose Luis Arrieta (Sp)
103. Hubert Dupont (F)
104. Vladimir Efimkin (Rus)
105. Martin Elmiger (Swi)
106. John Gadret (F)
107. Stéphane Goubert (F)
108. Christophe Riblon (F)
109. Tadej Valjavec (Slo)
Gerolsteiner
(director: Hans-Michael Holczer)
111. Stefan Schumacher (G)
112. Robert Förster (G)
113. Markus Fothen (G)
114. Heinrich Haussler (G)
115. Bernhard Kohl (A)
116. Sven Krauss (G)
117. Sebastian Lang (G)
118. Ronny Scholz (G)
119. Fabian Wegmann (G)
Agritubel
(director: Denis Leproux)
121. Christophe Moreau (F)
122. Freddy Bichot (F)
123. Jimmy Casper (F)
124. Romain Feillu (F)
125. Eduardo Gonzalo (Sp)
126. Nicolas Jalabert (F)
127. David Le Lay (F)
128. Geoffroy Lequatre (F)
129. Nicolas Vogondy (F)
Rabobank
(director: Erik Breukink)
131. Denis Menchov (Rus)
132. Juan Antonio Flecha (Sp)
133. Oscar Freire (Sp)
134. Sebastian Langeveld (Nl)
135. Koos Moerenhout (Nl)
136. Joost Posthuma (Nl)
137. Bram Tankink (Nl)
138. Laurens Ten Dam (Nl)
139. Pieter Weening (Nl)
Bouygues Telecom
(director: Jean-François Rodriguez)
141. Pierrick Fédrigo (F)
142. Stef Clement (Nl)
143. Xavier Florencio (Sp)
144. Laurent Lefèvre (F)
145. Jérôme Pineau (F)
146. Matthieu Sprick (F)
147. Yury Trofimov (Rus)
148. Johann Tschopp (Swi)
149. Thomas Voeckler (F)
Milram
(director: Vittorio Algeri)
151. Erik Zabel (G)
152. Ralf Grabsch (G)
153. Christian Knees (G)
154. Brett Lancaster (Aus)
155. Martin Müller (G)
156. Björn Schröder (G)
157. Niki Terpstra (Nl)
158. Peter Velits (Svk)
159. Marco Velo (I)
Française des Jeux
(director: Marc Madiot)
161. Sandy Casar (F)
162. Sébastien Chavanel (F)
163. Rémy Di Grégorio (F)
164. Arnaud Gérard (F)
165. Philippe Gilbert (B)
166. Lilian Jégou (F)
167. Yoann Le Boulanger (F)
168. Jérémy Roy (F)
169. Benoît Vaugrenard (F)
Saunier Duval-Scott
(director: Joxean Fernandez)
171. Riccardo Riccò (I)
172. Rubens Bertogliati (Swi)
173. Juan José Cobo (Sp)
174. David de la Fuente (Sp)
175. Jesus del Nero (Sp)
176. Angel Gomez (Sp)
177. Josep Jufre (Sp)
178. Aurélien Passeron (F)
179. Leonardo Piepoli (I)
Cofidis
(director: Francis van Londersele)
181. Sylvain Chavanel (F)
182. Stéphane Augé (F)
183. Florent Brard (F)
184. Hervé Duclos-Lassalle (F)
185. Samuel Dumoulin (F)
186. Leonardo Duque (Col)
187. Amaël Moinard (F)
188. David Moncoutié (F)
189. Maxime Monfort (B) |
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| wildcat000 |
Posted on 26-07-2009 14:29
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*cough*Sastre*cough*
In all seriousness, I kind of wish they would just let it go. Did anybody else notice the clean Tour this year? The image of cycling is just starting to become clean again, why bring back these demons. But, I see why we would want to punish the riders who did wrong. Now that I've argued myself, I don't know quite where I stand  |
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| ruben |
Posted on 26-07-2009 14:56
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I also despise the AFLD btw. There is no one caught this tour, which brings them to the conclusion: "The riders must be using a new drug"
instead of "the riders are finally clean".
These AFLD idiots just do their work to have someone caught and then can boast about it. I despise them. They are NOT interested in a clean sport, they hope riders keep doping so they can keep catching them |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 26-07-2009 15:03
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Actually the new CERA test takes longer to do, thats why Di Lucas test is finished testing now, so we'll properbly not see any positive tests of this tour untill the vuelta 
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 26-07-2009 15:24
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ruben wrote:
I also despise the AFLD btw. There is no one caught this tour, which brings them to the conclusion: "The riders must be using a new drug"
instead of "the riders are finally clean".
These AFLD idiots just do their work to have someone caught and then can boast about it. I despise them. They are NOT interested in a clean sport, they hope riders keep doping so they can keep catching them
Well, to draw the conlusion that "the riders are finally clean" just because no one got caught would also be rather naive. If we ever gonna get a clean sport we need doping hunters like AFLD.
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| Setzel |
Posted on 26-07-2009 16:21
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All my money on Kirchen , if they retest suisse 2008 tour they will see that , he was a monster there.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 26-07-2009 18:10
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Uhm, Ruben, I applaud AFLD for having that attitude. Had they had your attitude, we could just as well stop testing at all and return to the 90's. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2009 18:34
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One of the names of riders being retested has been officially confirmed.
Are you ready for the bombshell?
Cadel Evans
EDIT: they're re-testing 15 people. all of them top20
Edited by issoisso on 26-07-2009 18:38
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| qazaqa |
Posted on 26-07-2009 18:58
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Wow! Doping allegations NOT concerning Kloden! This is a first! |
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