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Nakhon Ratchasima Trophy - Discussion
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 15-10-2024 08:06
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 Nakhon Ratchasima Trophy (C2)
Welcome to Thailand for the ninth edition of the Nakhon Ratchasima Trophy! We saw a surprise winner in Manada Coyote's Gabriel Francisco Rojas as the breakaway was victorious last year. Could we see the same happening tomorrow? Let's have a look at the sprinter favourites.
| Flat | Sta | Res | Spr | Acc |  Carsi | 70 | 66 | 69 | 80 | 82 |  Zariff | 70 | 71 | 67 | 80 | 80 |  Kennett | 75 | 73 | 76 | 79 | 78 |  Willwohl | 73 | 71 | 67 | 79 | 78 |  Riabushenko | 76 | 71 | 74 | 79 | 77 |  Welten | 76 | 72 | 71 | 79 | 75 | | Page | 75 | 72 | 72 | 78 | 79 |  Gibbons | 75 | 73 | 72 | 78 | 78 |  Scott | 72 | 72 | 71 | 78 | 78 |  Krieger | 70 | 69 | 72 | 78 | 77 |  Mareczko | 74 | 71 | 73 | 78 | 77 |  Altanzul | 72 | 68 | 73 | 78 | 75 |  Zhao | 74 | 68 | 74 | 77 | 81 |  Tivani | 70 | 68 | 78 | 77 | 78 |  Houle | 76 | 73 | 68 | 77 | 75 |
Purely looking at their sprinting capacities, Carsi and Zariff are the top favourites. An other thing that unites them, however, is the fact that they don't really have the highest stamina and resistance in the peloton. Comparable to Willwohl, who's a slightly weaker pure sprinter, but is a better rouleur than them.
The other two sprinters with 79 sprinting are Kennett and Riabushenko, both clearly better rouleurs and with better physical stats than the names mentioned above. Welten also has that 79 sprint stat and is decent in everything else, but it remains to be seen how his lower acceleration impacts his sprint tomorrow.
Page, Gibbons and Scott are three similar 78 rated sprinters with an acceleration above or equal to 78 as well, with 70+ in all other important skills. So they can just as well fight for the win, but same can be said for the remaining other three 78 sprinters, although they do have lower acceleration. Krieger will want to relive the glory of the past, whereas Altanzul wants to put new team Zain - Omantel on the map. Looking at the sprinters, Mareczko seems to be the best representation for the PCT teams, with Lierse hoping to score some cheeky C2 points here.
Three more sprinters to mention, as Zhao wants to prove he is worth the money that Duvel Tsingtao threw at him in free agency, whereas old dog Houle wants to show he shouldn't be written of just yet. Tivani has a decent shot to score as well, counting on super domestique Fisher-Black.
I sadly cannot predict who will in the break, and whether they'll fight for the win again. But I can give you an overview of the best rouleurs that could go for glory near the end of the race.
| Flat | Stam | Res | Spr | Acc | | Arashiro | 81 | 71 | 67 | 70 | 75 | | Suter | 79 | 75 | 74 | 68 | 74 | | English | 78 | 74 | 73 | 71 | 75 | | Biermans | 77 | 71 | 74 | 66 | 67 | | Verwilst | 76 | 70 | 72 | 65 | 66 |
All of the rouleurs on this list also have a name that could be sprinting into a top-10, top-5, or even for the win. Nevertheless, we could see some of them try something. Arashiro stands out as the 81 rouleur, whereas Suter seems to be the best of three Lierse riders on the list. English has already won the Irish championship recently, so why not stay in the winning mood in Thailand?
Good luck to everybody, here's the full startlist.
Spoiler  Riabushenko Aliaksandr
McGill Scott
Arashiro Yudai
Singh Yanglem Rojit
Paulus Milan
Yamada Takumi
Houle Hugo
Grosser Aaron
McCormick Hayden
Magnussen Davur
Dobre Vlad-Nicolae
Pickrell Riley
Cheyne Jordan
Stroll Lewis
Dakteris Janis
Videika Airidas
Kochetkov Mikhail
De Lie Arnaud
Mikutis Aivaras
Bablidze Irakli
Zhao Jingbiao
Van der Sande Tosh
Noppe Christophe
Ma Guangtong
Dewulf Stan
Pollefliet Gianluca
Cheung King Lok
Akhmaevi Sulkhan
Gibbons Ryan
Habtom Mikiel
English Felix
Kipruto Ivan
Dumoulin Tom
Keizer Martijn
Carsi Mustafa
Ringheim Jo Kogstad
Domene Ramon
Barbero Carlos
Scheit Florian
Sinkeldam Ramon
Adriamihajanarivo Herizo
Kennett Dylan
Bennett Sam
Yon Hin Daniel
Jones Taj
Scotson Miles
David Tom
Crowley Liam
Downey Sean
Havik Yoeri
Krieger Alexander
Van Uden Casper
Foldager Anders
Artz Huub
Loland Sakarias Koller
Arrieta Igor
Haldimann Guillaume
Mareczko Jakub
Weemaes Sasha
Suter Joel
Biermans Jenthe
Verwilst Aaron
Piccolo Andrea
Vandenabeele Henri
Benedetti Gabriele
Welten Bram
Canal Carlos
Van Garderen Tejay
Wallinder Willhelm
Ivanov Viacheslav
Abreu Jorge
Tivani German Nicolas
Muhindo Jimmy
Marcos Leandro
Lopez Harold Martin
Revelo Franklin Joel
Fisher-Black Finn
Obando Bryan Raul
Orue German Anibal
Zariff Nur Aiman
Page Dylan
Barbari Adel
Schomber Nils
Moutsios Martinos
Kiflay Metkel
Scott Cameron
Svab Jernej
Rodriguez Carlos
Karatsivis Panagiotis
Beltran Eduard Alexander
Marryatt Jake
Willwohl Willi
Reinhardt Theo
Stalberg Albin
Andersen Kasper
Heinrich Nicolas
Van Bekkum Darren
Vangheluwe Warre
Campenaerts Victor
Altanzul Maani
Saber Lahcen
Al-Wahibi Mohammed
Sirironnachai Sarawut
Alajmi Abdulhadi
Bremanis Ansis
Vinokurov Nicolas
Albalooshi Khalid
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| MacC |
Posted on 15-10-2024 09:59
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Thanks Nemo. Obviously I am looking for Kennett to build on the Down Under result. I suspect already that having Bennett here might be a big mistake.
Good luck all
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| Caspi |
Posted on 15-10-2024 10:18
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With both Page and Barbari here, anything outside the podium would be a disappointment for Zariff and the team.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 15-10-2024 10:25
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Going for some cheeky C2 points indeed  Thanks for the preview!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Booker |
Posted on 15-10-2024 12:31
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Quite a small field this year in Thailand, but with all the primary sprint riders here, let's see what PCM has to offer up.
Will a breakaway take it like last season's edition or will the peloton cooperate? I hope we manage to get one rider into the break, looking at you Stan Dewulf...
Also, really curious to see how PCM treats Zhao with his acceleration stat, paired with Van der Sande.
Of the others, Kennett clearly comes in good form, Riabushenko looks strong, but I have a suspicion Gibbons, Tivani and Mareczko might have key roles with strong enough teams to support them here.
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 15-10-2024 15:25
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Let’s go Scott!
Good luck all!
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 15-10-2024 18:53
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Not much expected at all here and can see a breakaway winner again after reading last years report just hope Houle can surf and find some luck along the way |
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| seancoll |
Posted on 15-10-2024 19:38
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jt1109 wrote:
Not much expected at all here and can see a breakaway winner again after reading last years report just hope Houle can surf and find some luck along the way
This sort of parcours could definitely lend itself to another breakaway. One of the biggest factors will be home many teams can get a rider up front, especially with a smaller startlist comparatively.
Glad to see Tivani make the list of sprinters this time. Being up there means he should at least contest the sprint and he's done well from positions like this before. We predicted 23 points here from the team, so let's see if we're able to add some points together from either a great Tivani finish or a couple others showing up in the top 25.
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 16-10-2024 08:02
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Just a heads up, the report will include a video captured by Abhishek. Expect it in a couple of hours 
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| Caspi |
Posted on 16-10-2024 12:50
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| MacC |
Posted on 16-10-2024 13:02
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Ooh, if the breakaway had been caught Kennett would have scored big again, still very promising
Thanks for the report, will check out video later! and congrats to the victor!
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| Booker |
Posted on 16-10-2024 13:18
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That's so cool that CT got to experience the video format first! Thanks for doing this Abhi and Nemolito
Really encouraging to see Zhao power through to take the sprint victory, just a shame the breakaway stayed away this time. We thought Dewulf had a part to play, he nearly had it with Arashiro and Suter, but just petered out at the end.
Congrats to sean, Aycon and jt with some nice scoring.
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 16-10-2024 13:32
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Great tactics from the team not something you can usually say in PCM  two riders in the break pays off and 3rd and 4th pretty much better scoring then winning with one rider in the break
Awesome report though I did just watch the full video first and very interesting how bad the game is at pacing back breaks on the flat going 95+ efforts with one rider then burning them out stopping and losing time then doing the same over and over flat classics just going to be breakaway heaven with those tactics |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 16-10-2024 15:48
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Not the race we wanted, but some minor points is always good. Thanks for the report!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 16-10-2024 18:26
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This one stings a little. TVG gets in the BOTD. BOTD wins... TVG doesn't have the legs anymore and gets dropped before the finish. Not to mention, our former riders Pickrell and Stroll, nab the best results of their young careers from the BOTD.
Welten takes 17th despite being named the top sprinter by the oddsmakers. Our team needed to work hard to bring back the break once TVG was dropped. Disappointed to say the least, but the season is still young and our guys are still getting used to riding together.
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 16-10-2024 20:42
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Rodriguez in 6th is good. Happy with that. Especially if a breakaway was going to win I’m just happy we were in it! Scott also picking up points in 13th. Not a terrible race for us!
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 16-10-2024 21:54
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Guess this race almost has a breakaway win written all over, with that short hill and the extremely twisty roads almost all the way to the finish line. The pack just can't gain any time there, and as jt mentioned, the engine just isn't smart enough to consider such things.
The Turtles definitely did make great use of this parcours, big congrats for the win
Would also have been nice to see Suter win here (yeah, almost always supporting the Swiss guys  ), but I'm sure late attacks will be successful elsewhere.
Thanks for the report and the video (which I watched before reading the report)!
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| seancoll |
Posted on 16-10-2024 23:58
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Well that was a surprise! Assumed that we would get into the break given the startlist, but didn't think we could get two in nor that the breakaway would get to the finish.
Absolutely stocked for Revelo who as stated is not a flat guy, especially as he rarely gets to see mountains this season.
This is also our first classic win in our team's history as we barely devoted any time to 1-day races last year. A big day for the SEE Turtles
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| Laurens147 |
Posted on 17-10-2024 08:13
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Congrats sean!
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[MG] New Manager of the Year - PCM.daily Awards 2022
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| Aycon97 |
Posted on 17-10-2024 09:33
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Oh wow! I didnt expect such a great result here! First podium for our team!
Thanks for reporting and also for the video is was great to watch!
Also congratulations to all other who finished well here and achieved what they wanted! |
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