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CrueTrue
As always, the details of the Tour de France 2009 route are being 'leaked' a few days before the official presentation. Of course, we don't know if it's the real one, but either way, it's interesting (in Spanish, though - sorry):

Sabado 4 de julio- Mónaco-Mónaco (contrarreloj individual)

Domingo, 5 de julio. Mónaco-Brignoles

Lunes, 6 de julio. Marsella- La Grande Motte

Martes 7 de julio Montpellier-Montpellier (contrarreloj equipos de 38 km)

Miércoles, 8 de julio. Agde-Perpinyà

Jueves 9 de julio Girona-Barcelona

Viernes 10 de julio Barcelona-Arcalís (sin los ultimos 5 km de ascenso)

Sábado 11 de julio Andorra la Vella-Saint Girons

Domingo, 12 de julio. Saint-Gaudens-Tarbes

Lunes 13 de julio Reposo (traslado en avión a Limoges)

Martes 14 de julio Limoges-Issoudun

Miércoles 15 de julio Vatan-Auxerre

Jueves 16 de julio Auxerre-Vittel

Viernes 17 de julio Vittel- Colmar (El Ballon de Alsacia)

Sábado 18 de julio. Colmar-Besançon

Domingo, 19 de julio. Pontalier- Verbier (Suiza)

Lunes, 20 de julio. Jornada de reposo en la estación de Verbier

Martes, 21 de julio. Martigny- Les Arcs

Miércoles, 22 de julio. Bourg-Saint Maurice-Le Grand Bornand

Jueves, 23 de julio. Annecy-Lago Annecy (contrarreloj individual de 45 km)

Viernes. 24 de julio. Bourgoin-Jallieu-Aubenas

Sábado, 25 de julio. Montélimar-Mont Ventoux

Domingo, 26 de julio. Campos Elíseos (traslado en TGV desde Avignon)


Source: https://apmforo.mf...09/?pag=25

Thanks to Dankan for pointing it out Wink
Edited by CrueTrue on 21-10-2008 11:12
 
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issoisso
If there's ever been a Tour for climbers....this is it.

TTT + La Mongie? I hate it

Les Arcs? I love it.

Let's wait for the details before we say anything.

Summing it up for the non spanish speakers:

4 mountaintop finishes, 1 pyrenees + 3 alps (mont ventoux on the penultimate day)

15km "prologue"
45km ITT
38km TTT

Has anyone thought of how the route goes on the map? It's INSANE. In a few stage is "jumps" from the Pyrenees to the Vosges....WTF?

The finish in Switzerland intrigues me. As far as I know, it's never been used in the TDF....

And Les Arcs, I think was only used in 96 when Induráin cracked badly.

EDIT: From what I could gather, the Verbier climb averages 7.7% for 7.7 km, with a maximum of 12%.
Edited by issoisso on 21-10-2008 11:58
 
jolly_antunes
This can only be a good thing if the riders make it a good thing. If they will do what they did this year, sitting in the peloton and climb together untill the summit, it will be boring....
 
tate
Well if thats the route I'll be putting my money on Contador they will have such a strong team there. Could come down to astana riders attacking each other. should be a good watch with alot of attacking on the last climbs
 
Hasselinhoo
let's wait for the official route and let's not bet when the tour is 8 months away
Edited by Hasselinhoo on 21-10-2008 13:15
 
Hasselinhoo
lol mont ventoux 20th stage not so sure about that
 
CrueTrue
Hasselinhoo wrote:
let's wait for the official route and let's not bet when the tour is 8 months away


Well, the route is presented tomorrow, so Wink
 
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issoisso
Hasselinhoo wrote:
lol mont ventoux 20th stage not so sure about that


Actually that's one of the very few things that have been officially confirmed: flat stage ending on the Ventoux on the penultimate day (then again, for a Ventoux stage to have other climbs than the Ventoux it'd have to be 400kms long...)
 
fenian_1234
You gotta laugh - the way ASO is trying to stamp out drug taking, then what do you know? They send 'em up Ventoux the second last day and throw in a load of mountain-top finishes....

Still, should be entertaining...and then a few weeks later some of the top guys will be kicked out. Can't wait.............................for the Giro.Smile
 
CrueTrue
Although I do get your point, I'd still say that having 21 flat stages wouldn't make doping disappear. It's about winning, and you win by being faster than everyone else - how do you become that? By using drugs Wink That goes for all kind of stages and all kinds of elite sports for that matter Wink
 
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fenian_1234
Couldn't agree more.

But with ASO's current stance it's difficult to get excited about the Tour.

 
Aquarius
I'm reasonnably condident that this is the road that will be used, still it's a bit weird that it draws only a triangle on the map : from bottom right (SE) to bottom left (SW) then a diagonal up to Elsaz (NE) and straight down again (SE) with the last stage in Paris.
Now : what's the closest TDF 2009 route from Brest ? Pfft
 
rodda
astana up ventoux should be epic Pfft
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SportingNonsense
rodda wrote:
astana up ventoux should be epic Pfft


By Ventoux they may already have got kicked out of the tour! Pfft
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issoisso
They were very close to not being the only "train" up there:

Evans, Kohl, Popovych, Vandenbroeck, Dekker, Wegelius, Cioni

Then Kohl....well, you know the rest.
 
doddy13
the french press made it's own predictions without revealing the route

Un Tour 2009 grand Sud ?
- Christian Prudhomme, directeur du Tour de France - AFP - FREDERICK FLORIN -

Christian Prudhomme, directeur du Tour de France
© AFP - FREDERICK FLORIN
Alors que la carte du Tour de France 2009 sera dévoilée mercredi, des rumeurs commencent déjà à circuler.

Comme les années précédentes, les organisateurs de la Grande Boucle dévoileront le parcours de l'édition au Palais des Congrès à Paris, et comme les années précédentes, des petits détails ont commencé à circuler dans les médias... Il serait question d'une ascension du Mont Ventoux lors de l'avant-dernière étape !

Le retour du Mont Ventoux ?

"Sortir des schémas classiques", c'est un peu le leitmotiv de Christian Prudhomme, le Directeur du Tour de France. Avec un départ annoncé à Monaco, et un passage en Espagne dans la ville de Barcelone, ce Tour 2009 devrait être aussi original qu'audacieux. Selon les dernières informations qui circulent, le Tour 2009 devrait notamment passer par l'Ariège, avec une arrivée d'étape vers le 11 juillet à Saint-Girons, en provenance d'Andorre, selon La Dépêche du Midi.

La grande première monégasque devrait être suivie dans les jours suivants par une escale en Catalogne, à Barcelone, qui attend cela depuis 1965 et la victoire de Jose Perez-Frances. Les Pyrénées ne devraient être qu'un passage, sans véritable ascension, alors qu'il semble de plus en plus probable que l'une des toutes dernières étapes se déroule du côté des Alpes. Certains attendent d'ailleurs avec impatience le retour au programme du Mont Ventoux, qui devrait être le théâtre de l'avant-dernière étape de la Grande Boucle, pour un suspense absolu. Auparavant, le peloton pourrait emprunter une diagonale pour passer par Issoudun, Vittel ou Colmar, avant de passer par le Jura de part et d'autre de la frontière franco-suisse.

Le tracé devrait donc se focaliser sur la moitié sud de la France avec d'éventuels passages à Marseille, Montpellier, Sète, Perpignan, laissant de côté le Nord, la Normandie, et tout l'Ouest de l'Hexagone, qui avait été bien servi l'an passé.

La décision de la chaîne allemande de télévision ARD de ne plus retransmettre le direct le Tour, sera évidemment dans les esprits, mais la belle aventure de la Grande Boucle ne devrait pas pâtir de l'actualité récente. Pour le patron du Tour, ne change pas son fusil d'épaule. "(...) il n'est pas question de changer dans la défense de nos valeurs", affirme le M. Prudhomme, et déclare qu'"Il n'est pas question de baisser les bras dans la lutte antidopage !"

https://sport.fran...918-fr.php

somebody else do a google translation, i'm not in the mood.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
 
Aquarius
It doesn't say much more than what's already been said above.
It'd be a waste of my time to translate the whole thing, basically they're just using conditionnals about the place where the stages will be, but it's the same as above.
 
Gutierrez
I can't wait
I want lots of TT and not sprints
Sprints are for classics
 
issoisso
Well, there's very little TT actually Wink
 
Hasselinhoo
issoisso wrote:
They were very close to not being the only "train" up there:

Evans, Kohl, Popovych, Vandenbroeck, Dekker, Wegelius, Cioni

Then Kohl....well, you know the rest.
i'm pretty sure that van huffel and aerts will be in better contidition during the tdf 2009 than the tdf 2008
 
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