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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 07-07-2007 21:34
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issoisso wrote:
Hincapie signed for two years with T-Mobile. he described the offer as "irrefusable".
Armstrong says he considers himself "betrayed"
curiously, Team Slipstream director Jon Vaughters (former teammate of Hincapie) has said "This is a surprise not because hes leaving but because i always was sure he wasnt playing fair if you know what I mean"
silly season starting, it seems smiley
also, I'm guessing Vaughters refers to T-Mobile's reputation as the clean team.
We gonna have lots's of tranfers to come...good to see all of them in one place.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-07-2007 21:38
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Simoni to Selle Italia as CrueTrue reported. can't remember any others yet. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 07-07-2007 21:40
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In my opinion, Lance Amstrong should shut up. He's not a rider of the team any longer -- how can he say such a thing? Yeah, I know he's still around the team, but ... |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 07-07-2007 21:55
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CrueTrue wrote:
In my opinion, Lance Amstrong should shut up. He's not a rider of the team any longer -- how can he say such a thing? Yeah, I know he's still around the team, but ...
This is not the first time...traitor is for Lance like for other guys f**k or s**t word. When Landis left postal he meat him and pointed with finger and sayd traitor.
T-mobile's good move they should find also one new absolute leader..then they have again nice allrounder team.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-07-2007 22:07
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Guido Mukk wrote:
This is not the first time...traitor is for Lance like for other guys f**k or s**t word. When Landis left postal he meat him and pointed with finger and sayd traitor.
remember the instant messenger talk between Vaughters and Andreu that was caught where they talked about lance doping?
FDREU: it's a no win situation, you know how he is. Once you leave the team or do soemthing wrong you forever banned
Cyclevaughters: i suppose - you know he tried to hire me back in 2001... he was nice to me... i just couldn't deal with that whole world
Guido Mukk wrote:
T-mobile's good move they should find also one new absolute leader..then they have again nice allrounder team.
Stapleton said at the start of the season that there would be another revolution in the team this off-season. he said it was mostly because quite a few GC leaders' contracts expire. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 07-07-2007 22:20
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Actually, I have never seen that chatlog before. How did they find that? And was the full chat log revealed - or only that part? |
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Posted on 07-07-2007 22:23
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no idea how they found it, but last august it was on every news site.
here's the transcript until they stop talking about doping:
An instant message between Frankie Andreu (FDREU) and Jonathan Vaughters (Cyclevaughters) the morning of July 26, 2005.
Cyclevaughters: frankie - hey - thanks for talking the other day
FDREU: no problem, where are you
Cyclevaughters: back in CO
FDREU: nice, I just got home, isnt' it like 5AM
Cyclevaughters: sometimes i think i'm going to go nuts
Cyclevaughters: yeah
Cyclevaughters: it's 5am
FDREU: I agree, I came home and the air conditioning is broken
Cyclevaughters: ouch
FDREU: did your kid grow twice it's size in the two weeks you were gone
Cyclevaughters: yeah, his feet look bigger for some eason
FDREU: funny
Cyclevaughters: anyhow, i never can quite figure out why i don't just play along with the lance crowd - i mean shit it would make my life easier, eh? it's not like i never played with hotsauce, eh?
FDREU: I know, but in the end i don't think it comes back to bite you
FDREU: I play along, my wife does not, and Lance hates us both
FDREU: it's a no win situation, you know how he is. Once you leave the team or do soemthing wrong you forever banned
Cyclevaughters: i suppose - you know he tried to hire me back in 2001... he was nice to me... i just couldn't deal with that whole world
FDREU: I did not know that
FDREU: look at why everyone leaves, it's way to controlling
Cyclevaughters: once I went to CA and saw that now all the teams got 25 injections every day
Cyclevaughters: hell, CA was ZERO
FDREU: you mean all the riders
Cyclevaughters: Credit Agricole
FDREU: it's crazy
Cyclevaughters: So, I realized lance was full of shit when he'd say everyone was doing it
FDREU: You may read stuff that i say to radio or press, praising the Tour and lance but it's just playing the game
Cyclevaughters: believe me, as carzy as it sounds - Moreau was on nothing. Hct of 39%
FDREU: when in 2000-2001
Cyclevaughters: so, that's when you start thinking... hell, kevin was telling me that after 2000 Ullrich never raced over 42%--- yeah moreau in 2000-2001
Cyclevaughters: anyhow - whtever
FDREU: After 1999, you know many things changed. lance did not
FDREU: I believe that's part of whey kevin left, he was tired of the stuff
Cyclevaughters: yeah, i could explain the whole way lance dupes everyone
FDREU: what abut GH climbing the mountains better than azevedo and the entire group
Cyclevaughters: from how floyd described it, i know exactly the methos
FDREU: explain that, classics to climber
FDREU: when did you talk with floyd
Cyclevaughters: i don't know - i want to trust George
Cyclevaughters: but the thing is on that team, you think it's normal
Cyclevaughters: or at least i did
FDREU: i guess. anything with blodd is not normal
Cyclevaughters: yeah, it's very complex how the avoid all the controls now, but it's not any new drug or anything, just the resources and planning to pull of a well devised plan
Cyclevaughters: it's why they all got dropped on stage 9 - no refill yet - then on the rest day - boom 800ml of packed cells
FDREU: they have it mastered. good point
Cyclevaughters: they draw the blood right after the dauphine
FDREU: how do they sneak it in, or keep it until needed
FDREU: i'm sure it's not with the truck in the frig
Cyclevaughters: motorcycle - refridgerated panniers
Cyclevaughters: on the rest day
Cyclevaughters: floyd has a photo of the thing
FDREU: crazy! it' just keep going to new levels
Cyclevaughters: yeah, it's complicated, but with enough money you can do it
FDREU: they have enough money. Floyd was so pissed at them this entire tour
Cyclevaughters: anyhow - i just feel sorry for floyd and some of the other guys
Cyclevaughters: why would lance keep doing the shit when he clearly has nothing to prove - it's weird
FDREU: I know. me to. they all get ripped into for no reason
FDREU: he's done now, thank god. but they will prove next year for Johan's sake that they are the greatest
Cyclevaughters: and then lance says " this guy and that guys are pussies"
FDREU: they won't stop
FDREU: I agree
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| Karl_rab |
Posted on 07-07-2007 22:23
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I doubt we will have a big signing season apart from youngsters. Maybe one big rider to fill the shoes of Boogerd. Moreu maybe?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-07-2007 22:27
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Karl_rab wrote:
I doubt we will have a big signing season apart from youngsters. Maybe one big rider to fill the shoes of Boogerd. Moreu maybe?
his shoes will be filled by Dekker. Dekker's shoes will be filled by guys promoted from the youth team. like Mr. Lars "attitude" Boom. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 07-07-2007 22:27
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isso: How did I manage to miss that? I mean, seriously, that's just crazy. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-07-2007 22:28
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I thought it was public knowledge...it was all the rage in cycling news (in general...not the site cyclingnews) a while back. |
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| Karl_rab |
Posted on 07-07-2007 22:31
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issoisso wrote:
Karl_rab wrote:
I doubt we will have a big signing season apart from youngsters. Maybe one big rider to fill the shoes of Boogerd. Moreu maybe?
his shoes will be filled by Dekker. Dekker's shoes will be filled by guys promoted from the youth team. like Mr. Lars "attitude" Boom.
Dekker is not the legend that is BOOGERD. He is ok know but he needs time to progress. We need someone to fill his shoes PROPERLY as soon as he leaves.
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Posted on 07-07-2007 22:32
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The new spanish champion JoaquÃn RodrÃguez to Rabobank  |
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Posted on 07-07-2007 22:36
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Karl_rab wrote:
Dekker is not the legend that is BOOGERD. He is ok know but he needs time to progress. We need someone to fill his shoes PROPERLY as soon as he leaves.
Ruben would destroy you in a very lingering and painful way - fortunately, he's not here now 
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Posted on 07-07-2007 22:37
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Karl_rab wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Karl_rab wrote:
I doubt we will have a big signing season apart from youngsters. Maybe one big rider to fill the shoes of Boogerd. Moreu maybe?
his shoes will be filled by Dekker. Dekker's shoes will be filled by guys promoted from the youth team. like Mr. Lars "attitude" Boom.
Dekker is not the legend that is BOOGERD. He is ok know but he needs time to progress. We need someone to fill his shoes PROPERLY as soon as he leaves.
trust me, he can fill very well next season. also, Kroon says he's got an offer he finds difficult to refuse from Rabobank. I knew I was forgetting something 
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The new spanish champion JoaquÃn RodrÃguez to Rabobank
I remember reading something about that a few days ago. is it confirmed, a done deal?
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Posted on 07-07-2007 22:42
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Rodriguez would be cool, another spaniard for the vuelta.
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Posted on 07-07-2007 22:45
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Kroon said that it depends on Riis. If Riis doesn't really need him he'll go for Rabobank. Personally, I don't think there's any doubt: Kroon will leave CSC. Why be a secondary rider at CSC when you can become a leader at Rabobank? |
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| Karl_rab |
Posted on 07-07-2007 22:46
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Yes agreed. Maybe we could seal a deal for Duran or Para 
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Posted on 07-07-2007 23:29
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Kroon says he's got an offer he finds difficult to refuse from Rabobank. I knew I was forgetting something smiley
That was also news at the same day when Boogerd anounced he's retirement. And hell why not to Kroon accept...to opportunity to play classics superstar.
And talking about Bos (Ruben- Bos will be better then Andy Schleck..he has already been that )
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Posted on 07-07-2007 23:40
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Any more news on the deals Team Slipstream are going after?
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