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Difference between hills and mountains
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| omchi |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:11
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Can anybody tell me what is difference between hills and mountains? is it in percentage slant of a hill/mountain? (for example to 5% Hill is main atribute and over 5% its Mountain?) |
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| ruben |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:14
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It's in the stage settings.
When you see a green flat line icon -> flat stage, for any climb in that flat stage, the hill stat will be 100% most important
When you see a orange curvy icon -> hilly stage, hill stat most important, if there are longer climbs it could be 50% hill and 50% mountain
When you see a red mountainous icon -> mountain stage, mountain stat most important, but sometimes als 25 to 35% hill stat, depending on the stage settings. You can see the stage settings also with the official editor. |
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:25
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Ah i get it know, Is that set if your in custom tour too. Cant remember what setting is it. Hills <---- 1.0 ----> Mountain? |
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Posted on 22-07-2008 10:36
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Yes, thats the setting. 1.00 means its entirely based on the Mountain stat, 0.00 means entirely based on the Hill stat.
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| ruben |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:38
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And the reason why our PPDB game online was so weird with Gilbert being there, was because the stage settings resetted to 0.0 somehow, by Plakkers handy work  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:41
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Smoothie wrote:
Ah i get it know, Is that set if your in custom tour too. Cant remember what setting is it. Hills <---- 1.0 ----> Mountain?
that setting is set in the XML and unfortunately has no relation to the "relief" setting that shows a yellow "hill" or red "mountain"
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:47
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Ok i understand it, Insidently. Are races like LBL and Flecha 50-50? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:48
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Smoothie wrote:
Ok i understand it, Insidently. Are races like LBL and Flecha 50-50?
yes. which is why people giving Valverde 81 mountain and 83 hills are idiots. he'll dominate like Merckx.
EDIT: sorry if that sounded a bit aggressive. I'm not myself today.
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:51
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I remember discussing this with you once. Do would it be better if Valverde has say 79 Mountain and 83 hills? Or would that mean he gets dropped a lot in the high mountains. Oh wait! He does.. Silly me |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:53
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One thing should be mentioned: on this particular PCM, the difference from 79 to 80 in a stat is enormous
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:54
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So would you give Valverde 80? or 79? |
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Posted on 22-07-2008 11:13
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In my personal DB, I gave Valverde 80. I have a lot of 80 climbers though, because the differences in the top are so small. Evans and some others are at 81, Menchov, Sastre, Kohl and Sella at 82, and Contador at 83 |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-07-2008 11:22
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Smoothie wrote:
So would you give Valverde 80? or 79?
depends on the stamina and resistance stats.
right now on my custom DB that I'm tweaking, he has 80. His stamina is highest among climbers, resistance is one of the highest and recovery sucks. Only F.Schleck has (far) lower recovery.
It's an attempt to get realism from results. sometimes I end up trying weird stuff.
For instance, Rujano has 80 climbing and the lowest stamina and resistance in the DB. the result: just as in real life, he only does well in mountain TTs
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Posted on 22-07-2008 11:23
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haha I did the same, I gave Rujano 81 climbing, 60 endurance and 62 resistance. |
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Posted on 22-07-2008 11:25
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Ruben wrote:
haha I did the same, I gave Rujano 81 climbing, 60 endurance and 62 resistance.
80 51 and 50 here 
I originally gave him about the same you did, but he was doing too well on road stages for my liking.
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Posted on 22-07-2008 11:27
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i also gave him 60 flat btw |
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Posted on 22-07-2008 11:27
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I've just got one question then 
How the hell are we supposed to give F.Schleck reasonable stats if he wins Tour de France or just the stagevictory at Jauisers or d'Huez, when he's also a very good classics rider? Then it's the same as with Valverde 
Edited by Silence on 22-07-2008 11:28
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-07-2008 11:36
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Silence wrote:
I've just got one question then
How the hell are we supposed to give F.Schleck reasonable stats if he wins Tour de France or just the stagevictory at Jauisers or d'Huez, when he's also a very good classics rider? Then it's the same as with Valverde
the same as every other rider: keep testing the hell out of it and tweaking the stats until you're satisfied
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| ruben |
Posted on 22-07-2008 11:42
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yup, it's a very thin balance |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-07-2008 12:27
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sad that this your personal db..If some one is after realism then it's me..I never has been pleased..about the stats. they have been ok..but not perfect one.. (has isso 07 game stats). hell I even played a hole season Lotto story.. That is best compliment ...that now I have it. |
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