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Posted on 20-05-2008 14:59
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Portuguese police have announced everything but the team's name so far. a bucketload of doping substances were found during a raid of the team's facilities. I'm curious which team it is. it's one from northern portugal.
Edited by issoisso on 20-05-2008 15:06
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Posted on 20-05-2008 15:05
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Equipment for blood transfusions were found. And apparently it IS MSS.
not 100% confirmed yet, though
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Posted on 20-05-2008 15:11
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Well thats just typical 
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Posted on 20-05-2008 15:14
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not picking at Portugese people here, but Portugese cycling has a very stinking reputation when it comes to dope. It's no wonder that so many riders involved in Operacion Puerto signed with Portugese teams this season. |
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Posted on 20-05-2008 15:15
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Aquarius wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not picking at Portugese people here, but Portugese cycling has a very stinking reputation when it comes to dope. It's no wonder that so many riders involved in Operacion Puerto signed with Portugese teams this season.
you're preaching the bible to the priest...
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Posted on 20-05-2008 15:41
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MSS eh? How surprising 
...is it illegal according to civil law, to dope yourself in Portugal? |
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Posted on 20-05-2008 15:44
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no, it's not.
and for those who don't know: Bruno Neves rode for MSS
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Posted on 20-05-2008 15:49
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Once again "innocent until proven guilty" is reaching its limits here, since nobdy was found positive, it's only a police raid that caught people... |
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Posted on 20-05-2008 15:55
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Aquarius wrote:
Once again "innocent until proven guilty" is reaching its limits here, since nobdy was found positive, it's only a police raid that caught people...
oh well, there really is no alternative to the "innocent untill proven guilty" approach, is there? Of course, people like us can accuse anybody we want, but the authorities and the media have to act responsible, eh?
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Posted on 20-05-2008 16:20
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issoisso wrote:
no, it's not.
and for those who don't know: Bruno Neves rode for MSS
Yes, and he died by crashing in a race... so why is this really relevant? |
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Posted on 20-05-2008 16:32
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He died of some heart failure which usually happens because of drugs. Now, there's solid proof that MSS doped. Draw your own conclusions  |
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Posted on 20-05-2008 17:17
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Nothing I wasn't expecting... Especially if you look at the names of the last cyclists to leave this team and return to Spain...
BUT, it is still not proven that they are the squad the police raided... There 3 other teams in that same region of Portugal... And one of them is the team of Francisco Mancebo and Eladio Jimenez...
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Posted on 20-05-2008 17:31
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p3druh wrote:
BUT, it is still not proven that they are the squad the police raided... There 3 other teams in that same region of Portugal... And one of them is the team of Francisco Mancebo and Eladio Jimenez...
RTP said it's them.
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Posted on 20-05-2008 17:41
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issoisso wrote:
p3druh wrote:
BUT, it is still not proven that they are the squad the police raided... There 3 other teams in that same region of Portugal... And one of them is the team of Francisco Mancebo and Eladio Jimenez...
RTP said it's them.
Oh yes, the same network that said "Joly, the Spanish sprinter that overcame testicular cancer"...
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Posted on 20-05-2008 17:47
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the kind of mistake anyone not affiliated with cycling makes.
this kind of thing is something you can trust them in, no questions asked.
meanwhile, the local government of the Póvoa region have said they are "desolate" and will immediately withdraw sponsorship of the team.
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Posted on 20-05-2008 17:51
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Aquarius wrote:
Once again "innocent until proven guilty" is reaching its limits here, since nobdy was found positive, it's only a police raid that caught people...
actually the raid also occurred at the rider's homes. apparently, growth hormone was found in most.
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Posted on 20-05-2008 17:54
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What was LA/MSS overall budget for this season?
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Posted on 20-05-2008 17:58
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no idea. the sponsorship from the Póvoa region was 0.2 million.
But I really don't think that matters now...I'll be surprised if this team does anything from now on.
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Posted on 20-05-2008 18:02
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issoisso wrote:
no idea. the sponsorship from the Póvoa region was 0.2 million.
But I really don't think that matters now...I'll be surprised if this team does anything from now on.
Apparently, only 5 riders and 5 members of the staff are implicated in this case... All others were searched but were clean...
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Posted on 20-05-2008 18:06
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Hmmm, so thats why they TTT:ed to victory in the Vuelta a Asturias. What a surprise.
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