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Basso joining Liquigas!
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| carlosergud |
Posted on 24-04-2008 20:42
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According to Rai sport Basso has signed a contract with Liquigas starting from 24th october. Doesn't the Protour teams have an agreement that says convicted riders can't be signed until two years after their ban is over? |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 24-04-2008 21:08
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Yeah, the ProTour team does have such an agreement. I dont believe this transfer is true.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-04-2008 21:21
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there's a news thread for a reason 
and it's been posted there already.
On one hand, it's Liquigas, so it's perfectly possible that they've signed him
On the other hand, it's RAI, so it's perfectly possible that it's all made up.
Frankly, I don't really care much. he's going to come back with an italian team and it doesn't make much difference to me what team it ends up being.
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| ruben |
Posted on 24-04-2008 21:44
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Maybe Liquigas, and many other teams, will quit the Protour after this year?
I don't think many teams want to go to Russia |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 24-04-2008 21:50
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Why not Putin will give them best hookers..militia escort and best hotels. Just today was waching in the news how in Sots wich will be winter Olympic games place..throwing people out the houses to built Olympic stuff..Peking nr.2..good Olympic traditions continous
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| Dankan |
Posted on 24-04-2008 22:12
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Carlosergud wrote:
According to Rai sport Basso has signed a contract with Liquigas starting from 24th october. Doesn't the Protour teams have an agreement that says convicted riders can't be signed until two years after their ban is over?
Ban given by the CONI. Not any relationship to the UCI.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 24-04-2008 22:26
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I think this news article deserves its own thread.
Anyway, will be interesting to see if he's just as "good" as back then... |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 24-04-2008 22:27
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Yeah, I agree, although he is a doper I think that he what happened was he was a great rider naturally, and reached the head of CSC on his own natural abilites, but he realized that he would never beat Lance without doping, and with Riis's pushing took steroids. I think that if he is now clean, he can still be a great rider (he is only 32-33 is he not) |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 24-04-2008 22:31
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So you're saying he wasn't doped before his CSC-years?  |
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Posted on 24-04-2008 22:34
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No, I think he started doping once he reached CSC. I think many riders have done that, reached the ProTour or the top level of teams on their own merits, and had to dope to keep-up with the other riders, who were doping as well.
Note: This does mean I think pretty much all of the ProTour riders dope
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 24-04-2008 22:47
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Well he had a top 10 gc finish in the tour with Fassa Bortolo so maybe he just got better dope with CSC?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-04-2008 22:53
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Dankan wrote:
THIS-IS-GREAT-NEWS! B)
In what universe? 
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| Dankan |
Posted on 24-04-2008 23:17
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issoisso wrote:
Dankan wrote:
THIS-IS-GREAT-NEWS! B)
In what universe?
In the universe that forgives riders who fulfilled their bans and are able to ride freely again, with no further responsibility. "Non bis in idem". Once two years are gone, everyone's allowed to ride. No matter who you are. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-04-2008 23:18
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I'd love to believe that, but considering that most are caught again, I'm not so sure.
oh well. as they say, "it's a question of honor".
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| Dankan |
Posted on 24-04-2008 23:20
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issoisso wrote:
I'd love to believe that, but considering that most are caught again, I'm not so sure.
If they're caught again, they¡re given a ban for life. Can you show me a list of riders who were banned that way over the last few years? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-04-2008 23:24
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Since when are they given a ban for life?
There are several cases of riders who were suspended for doping and came back only to dope again. Since a positive test is so rare, it's not like they tested positive again, but they either confessed or were nailed to the wall with evidence.
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| Dankan |
Posted on 24-04-2008 23:26
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Ok. No list of twice banned riders. Then we can discuss about Basso joining Liquigas again... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-04-2008 23:33
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Dankan wrote:
Ok. No list of twice banned riders. Then we can discuss about Basso joining Liquigas again...
Sure, let's agree to disagree.
mark my words: Basso won't be another Santiago Perez, he'll come right back to the level of performance he was at before his ban.
But I guess we'll see at the Giro next year.
Edited by issoisso on 24-04-2008 23:33
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Posted on 24-04-2008 23:38
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Easy to see Basso Contandor dankan favourites CLEAN RIDERS.... mark my words a doper will be always be a doper even if he will not be caught again he will DOPE again
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 24-04-2008 23:39
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Well he had a top 10 gc finish in the tour with Fassa Bortolo so maybe he just got better dope with CSC?
No, I think he would have been able to get a 3rd on his own merits, but he realized he wouldn't beat either Ullrich or Armstrong without doping. |
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