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2013 review
senegalese
I only want to say that I want to finish this story, so follow me, it's the only thing you must do.

This is a review of 2013 season, I will play the races with some live for the most important races as Paris-Roubaix, Tour de France, and reports for the other race.

You only must follow me, and enjoy it Grin
 
senegalese
10 january 2013
So, the season starts early last year, and we have already three race: Australia hosts the real start with a classic criterium, the Down Under Classic. In Melbourne, there are sprinters as Modolo, Greipel, Goss and Guardini. I think the winner will come from one of them.
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Edited by senegalese on 28-02-2014 13:40
 
senegalese
Is anyone just a bit interested?
 
Selwink
Will you do this neutral or do you actually control a team?
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krisa
It looks like he will control a team
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sutty68
You need to explain to us who you will be in charge of Frown
 
senegalese
@Selwink and krisa: yes, I will control a team every race.
@sutty68: this is a semi-classic story, you must only follow it.
 
TheManxMissile
senegalese wrote:
@Selwink and krisa: yes, I will control a team every race.
@sutty68: this is a semi-classic story, you must only follow it.


The award for "Least Clear Explanation" goes to...
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senegalese
Melbourne:First race of the season, and some of the best world sprinter are here for Down Under Classic. Last year winner André Greipel was the clear favourite, but, as we will see, things didn't go according to plan. After a very fast start, with a big breakaway of 10 riders, the group, pulled by Accent Jobs, Orica and Blanco lets go 4 riders when there are only 40 km missing: Ponzi (AST), Colbrelli (BAR), Gatto (VIN) and Wagner (BLA). They have a maximum advantage of 2'00", but when the group start to chase, they collapse.
-17, the group is launched towards the first sprint of the season, and Lotto and Orica are at the top of the peloton, but Orica is stronger: they take a good advantage and Wellens and Bak must launch the sprint to Greipel very early. Cooke and Goss go easily, and Matthew take the best success ever i Australia, with Greipel only managed for 2nd. Then all the others.
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Spoiler
1 Matthew Goss Orica - GreenEdge 1h40'55
2 André Greipel Lotto Belisol s.t.
3 Sébastien Hinault IAM Cycling s.t.
4 Adam Blythe BMC Racing Team s.t.
5 Jonathan Hivert Sojasun s.t.
6 Andrea Guardini Astana Pro Team s.t.
7 Sacha Modolo Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox s.t.
8 Ian Bibby Madison Genesis s.t.
9 Danilo Napolitano Accent Jobs - Wanty s.t.
10 Stefan Van Dijk Accent Jobs - Wanty s.t.
11 Daniel Schorn Team NetApp - Endura s.t.
12 Julien Simon Sojasun s.t.
13 Maarten Wynants Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
14 Klaas Lodewyck BMC Racing Team s.t.
15 Simone Ponzi Astana Pro Team s.t.
16 Daniel Oss BMC Racing Team s.t.
17 Robert Wagner Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
18 Lars Ytting Bak Lotto Belisol s.t.
19 Russell Downing Team NetApp - Endura s.t.
20 Baden Cooke Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
21 Julian Dean Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
22 Martin Elmiger IAM Cycling s.t.
23 Liam Holohan Madison Genesis s.t.
24 Jacopo Guarnieri Astana Pro Team s.t.
25 Tim Wellens Lotto Belisol s.t.
26 Matteo Pelucchi IAM Cycling s.t.
27 Rick Flens Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
28 Matteo Rabottini Vini Fantini - Selle Italia s.t.
29 Jimmy Engoulvent Sojasun s.t.
30 Frédéric Amorison Crelan - Euphony s.t.
31 Tom Leezer Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
32 Cristiano Monguzzi Vini Fantini - Selle Italia s.t.
33 Paul Voss Team NetApp - Endura s.t.
34 Alexey Lutsenko Astana Pro Team s.t.
35 Mitchell Docker Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
36 Rafael de Mattos Andriato Vini Fantini - Selle Italia s.t.
37 Sonny Colbrelli Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox s.t.
38 Staf Scheirlinckx Accent Jobs - Wanty s.t.
39 Matthias Brändle IAM Cycling s.t.
40 Dean Downing Madison Genesis s.t.
41 Andrey Zeits Astana Pro Team s.t.
42 Andy Cappelle Accent Jobs - Wanty s.t.
43 Reinier Honig Crelan - Euphony s.t.
44 Stephen Cummings BMC Racing Team s.t.
45 Oscar Gatto Vini Fantini - Selle Italia s.t.
46 Sven Vanthourenhout Crelan - Euphony s.t.
47 Joeri Bueken Crelan - Euphony s.t.
48 Koen Barbé Crelan - Euphony s.t.
49 Erick Rowsell Team NetApp - Endura s.t.
50 Jack Bobridge Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
51 Leonardo Giordani Vini Fantini - Selle Italia s.t.
52 Darren Lapthorne Drapac Cycling s.t.
53 Maarten Neyens Lotto Belisol s.t.
54 Martin Kohler BMC Racing Team s.t.
55 Adam Hansen Lotto Belisol s.t.
56 Thomas Löfkvist IAM Cycling s.t.
57 Fabrice Jeandesboz Sojasun s.t.
58 Dennis Vanendert Lotto Belisol s.t.
59 Zakkari Dempster Team NetApp - Endura s.t.
60 Julien El Fares Sojasun s.t.
61 Rémi Pauriol Sojasun s.t.
62 William Walker Drapac Cycling s.t.
63 Joonas Henttala Team Novo Nordisk s.t.
64 Adam Phelan Drapac Cycling s.t.
65 Rony Martias Sojasun s.t.
66 Thomas Raeymaekers Team Novo Nordisk s.t.
67 Roberto De Patre Vini Fantini - Selle Italia s.t.
68 Kevin Van Melsen Accent Jobs - Wanty s.t.
69 Tim De Troyer Accent Jobs - Wanty s.t.
70 Marc Goos Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
71 Andrea Pasqualon Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox s.t.
72 Iker Camaño Team NetApp - Endura s.t.
73 Paolo Tiralongo Astana Pro Team s.t.
74 Dirk Bellemakers Lotto Belisol s.t.
75 Brent Bookwalter BMC Racing Team s.t.
76 Robbie Hucker Drapac Cycling s.t.
77 Yannick Eijssen BMC Racing Team s.t.
78 Joe Eldridge Team Novo Nordisk s.t.
79 David Lozano Team Novo Nordisk s.t.
80 Andrea Ciacchini Team Novo Nordisk s.t.
81 Chris Snook Madison Genesis s.t.
82 Grégory Habeaux Accent Jobs - Wanty s.t.
83 Fumiyuki Beppu Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
84 Svein Tuft Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
85 Johann Tschopp IAM Cycling s.t.
86 Daniel Teklehaimanot Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
87 Amir Rusli Drapac Cycling + 3'16
88 Arman Kamyshev Astana Pro Team s.t.
89 Graeme Brown Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
90 Sven Nys Crelan - Euphony s.t.
91 Francesco Bongiorno Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox + 4'57
92 Floris Goesinnen Drapac Cycling s.t.
93 Andrea Peron Team Novo Nordisk s.t.
94 Luigi Miletta Vini Fantini - Selle Italia s.t.
95 Pieter Van Herck Crelan - Euphony s.t.
96 Malcom Rudolph Drapac Cycling s.t.
97 Nicola Boem Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox s.t.
98 Alex Peters Madison Genesis s.t.
99 Cesare Benedetti Team NetApp - Endura s.t.
100 Branden Russell Team Novo Nordisk s.t.
101 Cristian Delle Stelle Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox s.t.
102 Jack Pullar Madison Genesis s.t.
103 Andrew Tennant Madison Genesis s.t.
104 Jonathan Fumeaux IAM Cycling s.t.

Edited by senegalese on 28-02-2014 17:09
 
senegalese
TheManxMissile wrote:
senegalese wrote:
@Selwink and krisa: yes, I will control a team every race.
@sutty68: this is a semi-classic story, you must only follow it.


The award for "Least Clear Explanation" goes to...

Embarassed
 
senegalese
The first live of the season is for the first WT race, the Badaling International. Vamos
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Jesleyh
Badaling International?
That's a Fantasy stage, right? Grin
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senegalese
Jesleyh wrote:
Badaling International?
That's a Fantasy stage, right? Grin

Obviously Grin
 
senegalese
The first breakaway is made by Konovalovas (MTN), Iglinskiy (ALM) and Fernandez (GRS)
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But, after a big attack by Vorobyev (KAT), Dodi (LAM) and Selvaggi (VCD), the group catch them. Then, when there are 177 km missing, a new breakaway is formed: Janse van Rensburg (ARG), Koren (CAN), Wackermann (LAM), Sergent (RLT) and Domont (ALM)
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Dippofix
Jesleyh wrote:
Badaling International?
That's a Fantasy stage, right? Grin

I believe it's the 2008 Olympics course. At least the route looks the same, and they were also held in the trashy tourist town that is Badaling.
 
Jesleyh
That's what I realised as well when I googled Badaling Wink
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senegalese
When the riders leading the race for the first time reach the finish line, they haven't an huge lead, only 5'22"
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When they are at the second passage on the descent, they reach the maximum advantage, 7'34", with Koren doing a lot of work now.
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When 104 km are left, Manuele Boaro (TST) attacks.
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This is a stupid action, really, but he arrives until only 23" from the head, then, collapses. Katusha takes the lead and reaches him. In the last descent, is Cannondale who accelerates and takes the escapers.
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Then, Nibali (AST) attacks (I lost the screenshot). He has 23" at the top of the last climb, but, if someone wants to reach him on descent, he's only a deluded.
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So, big win for him, and good ride by Hesjedal (GRS) taking a splendid second place. He reaches Nibali on the finish line.
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RESULT:
Spoiler
1 Vincenzo Nibali Astana Pro Team 6h20'43
2 Ryder Hesjedal Garmin - Sharp s.t.
3 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi + 21
4 Rigoberto Urán Sky Procycling s.t.
5 Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team s.t.
6 Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team s.t.
7 Joaquím Rodríguez Katusha Team s.t.
8 Jelle Vanendert Lotto Belisol s.t.
9 Simon Gerrans Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
10 Michele Scarponi Lampre - Merida s.t.
11 Edvald Boasson Hagen Sky Procycling s.t.
12 Luis León Sánchez Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
13 Roman Kreuziger Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
14 Nairo Quintana Movistar Team s.t.
15 Peter Sagan Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
16 Ion Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
17 Geraint Thomas Sky Procycling s.t.
18 Thor Hushovd BMC Racing Team s.t.
19 Danny Pate Sky Procycling s.t.
20 Bauke Mollema Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
21 Sylvain Chavanel Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
22 Luca Paolini Katusha Team s.t.
23 Domenico Pozzovivo AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
24 Tony Martin Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
25 Alexandr Kolobnev Katusha Team s.t.
26 Carlos Betancur AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
27 Jürgen Roelandts Lotto Belisol s.t.
28 Winner Anacona Lampre - Merida s.t.
29 Michael Albasini Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
30 John Degenkolb Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
31 Rory Sutherland Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
32 Gorka Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
33 Bram Tankink Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
34 Giovanni Visconti Movistar Team s.t.
35 Diego Ulissi Lampre - Merida s.t.
36 Jonathan Castroviejo Movistar Team s.t.
37 Greg Van Avermaet BMC Racing Team s.t.
38 Timothy Duggan Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
39 Jérôme Pineau Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
40 Marco Pinotti BMC Racing Team s.t.
41 Rafal Majka Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
42 Tomasz Marczynski Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
43 Samuel Dumoulin AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
44 Sérgio Paulinho Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
45 Alessandro De Marchi Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
46 Michal Golas Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
47 Daniel Navarro Cofidis, Solutions Crédits s.t.
48 Brian Bulgac Lotto Belisol s.t.
49 Matthew Lloyd Lampre - Merida s.t.
50 Sandy Casar FDJ s.t.
51 Tom Slagter Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
52 Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
53 Ivan Basso Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
54 Sergey Chernetskiy Katusha Team s.t.
55 Dominik Nerz BMC Racing Team s.t.
56 Warren Barguil Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
57 Mikel Landa Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
58 Vladimir Karpets Movistar Team s.t.
59 Mikel Nieve Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
60 Ioannis Tamouridis Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
61 Ian Stannard Sky Procycling s.t.
62 Moreno Moser Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
63 Anders Lund Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
64 José Herrada Movistar Team s.t.
65 Olivier Kaisen Lotto Belisol s.t.
66 Roberto Ferrari Lampre - Merida s.t.
67 Luca Wackermann Lampre - Merida s.t.
68 Kristjan Koren Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
69 Gianni Meersman Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
70 Pello Bilbao Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
71 Hugo Houle AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
72 Ramunas Navardauskas Garmin - Sharp s.t.
73 Larry Warbasse BMC Racing Team s.t.
74 Michał Kwiatkowski Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
75 Ricardo Mestre Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
76 Nariyuki Masuda Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
77 Paolo Longo Borghini Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
78 Anton Vorobyev Katusha Team s.t.
79 Christian Meier Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
80 Christophe Le Mével Cofidis, Solutions Crédits s.t.
81 Fränk Schleck RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
82 Fabian Wegmann Garmin - Sharp s.t.
83 Tiago Machado RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
84 Franco Pellizotti Androni Giocattoli s.t.
85 Thibaut Pinot FDJ s.t.
86 Johnny Hoogerland Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
87 Andriy Grivko Astana Pro Team s.t.
88 Peter Stetina Garmin - Sharp s.t.
89 Guillaume Bonnafond AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
90 Ben Gastauer AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
91 Francesco Gavazzi Astana Pro Team s.t.
92 Sergio Pardilla MTN - Qhubeka s.t.
93 Fabio Felline Androni Giocattoli s.t.
94 Taylor Phinney BMC Racing Team s.t.
95 Juan Antonio Flecha Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
96 Lieuwe Westra Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
97 Cristiano Salerno Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
98 Sebastian Langeveld Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
99 Sergey Lagutin Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
100 Marco Marcato Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
101 Rein Taaramäe Cofidis, Solutions Crédits s.t.
102 Alex Howes Garmin - Sharp s.t.
103 Miguel Rubiano Androni Giocattoli s.t.
104 Michael Matthews Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
105 Sergey Firsanov RusVelo s.t.
106 Marco Haller Katusha Team s.t.
107 Matthew Busche RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
108 Fabio Aru Astana Pro Team s.t.
109 Dimitriy Muravyev Astana Pro Team s.t.
110 Rohan Dennis Garmin - Sharp s.t.
111 Axel Domont AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
112 Robert Kiserlovski RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
113 Dmitriy Gruzdev Astana Pro Team s.t.
114 Vicente Reynès Lotto Belisol s.t.
115 Evgeni Petrov Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
116 Koldo Fernández Garmin - Sharp s.t.
117 Tosh Van der Sande Lotto Belisol s.t.
118 Tomas Vaitkus Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
119 Benoît Vaugrenard FDJ s.t.
120 Wesley Sulzberger Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
121 Juan Manuel Gárate Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
122 Moreno Hofland Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
123 Greg Henderson Lotto Belisol s.t.
124 Linus Gerdemann RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
125 Stijn Devolder RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
126 Evan Huffman Astana Pro Team s.t.
127 Emanuele Sella Androni Giocattoli s.t.
128 Yohan Offredo FDJ s.t.
129 Christopher Sutton Sky Procycling s.t.
130 Bob Jungels RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
131 Tobias Ludvigsson Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
132 Alexandre Geniez FDJ s.t.
133 Riccardo Chiarini Androni Giocattoli + 2'27
134 Steven Kruijswijk Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
135 Andrew Fenn Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
136 Alexey Tsatevitch Katusha Team s.t.
137 Matthew Hayman Sky Procycling s.t.
138 Timofey Kritskiy Katusha Team s.t.
139 Alex Dowsett Movistar Team s.t.
140 Luca Dodi Lampre - Merida s.t.
141 Joshua Edmonson Sky Procycling s.t.
142 Johannes Fröhlinger Team Argos - Shimano + 3'15
143 Craig Lewis Champion System Pro Cycling Team s.t.
144 Enrique Sanz Movistar Team s.t.
145 Dennis Van Niekerk MTN - Qhubeka + 4'07
146 Ignatas Konovalovas MTN - Qhubeka s.t.
147 Martin Velits Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
148 Jesse Sergent RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
149 Jens Debusschere Lotto Belisol s.t.
150 Maurits Lammertink Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 7'05
151 Laurent Pichon FDJ s.t.
152 Arnaud Labbe Cofidis, Solutions Crédits s.t.
153 Arnaud Demare FDJ s.t.
154 Cyril Bessy Cofidis, Solutions Crédits s.t.
155 Artem Ovechkin RusVelo s.t.
156 Mirko Selvaggi Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
157 Tomás Gil Androni Giocattoli s.t.
158 Theo Bos Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
159 Sebastian Lander BMC Racing Team s.t.
160 Valentin Iglinskiy AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
161 Jani Tewelde MTN - Qhubeka s.t.
162 Ryota Nishizono Champion System Pro Cycling Team s.t.
163 Martijn Maaskant Garmin - Sharp s.t.
164 Tsgabu Grmay MTN - Qhubeka s.t.
165 Romain Lemarchand Cofidis, Solutions Crédits s.t.
166 Ruslan Tleubayev Astana Pro Team s.t.
167 Adrien Niyonshuti MTN - Qhubeka + 8'23
168 Gregor Gazvoda Champion System Pro Cycling Team s.t.
169 Patrick Gretsch Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
170 Emilien Viennet FDJ s.t.
171 Matthew Brammeier Champion System Pro Cycling Team s.t.
172 Edwig Cammaerts Cofidis, Solutions Crédits s.t.
173 Christopher Butler Champion System Pro Cycling Team + 10'15
174 Biao Liu Champion System Pro Cycling Team s.t.
175 Muhamad Othman Champion System Pro Cycling Team s.t.
176 Sam Bewley Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
177 Ilnur Zakarin RusVelo s.t.
178 Massimo Graziato Lampre - Merida s.t.
179 Julien Fouchard Cofidis, Solutions Crédits s.t.
180 William Clarke Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
181 Jay Thomson MTN - Qhubeka + 11'51
182 Kin San Wu Champion System Pro Cycling Team s.t.
183 Matteo Di Serafino Androni Giocattoli s.t.
184 Artur Ershov RusVelo s.t.
185 Roman Maikin RusVelo s.t.
186 Youcef Reguigui MTN - Qhubeka s.t.
187 Cheng Ji Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
188 Alexander Serov RusVelo + 12'13
189 Mattia Gavazzi Androni Giocattoli s.t.
190 Gennadiy Tatarinov RusVelo + 14'40
191 Manuele Boaro Team Saxo - Tinkoff + 15'15
192 Victor Manakov RusVelo + 18'09

 
senegalese
Now we are in Cuba, for a real tough race. Continental riders aren't very strong, this is a very open race. For me, the clear favourite is Markus Fothen. He had the best team possible, he want this victory, not all continental race will be without any opponents.
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M.Fothen (NSP)
***
F.Baliani (PPO), J.Romero (JSH)
**
V.Santos (BOA), S.Salas (OPM), A.Steensen (CUL)
 
senegalese
I remake the question: is anyone interested?
 
senegalese
well...it seems very clear... Sad
 
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