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"Combination" Game
TheManxMissile
We got a sub-section, might as well use it
This is NOT the game itself, so DONT post any applications.
Just thought i'd share the updated rules and ideas.
Also this needs a name, and i cant think of a good one.

Application
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To join post in the following format
Team Name:
Title Sponsors (up to 2):
Nationality:
The first 10 applications will get WT status. After that all teams will be guaranteed CT status. Of the remaining applications a small panel will select the next 6 WT teams.


Nationalization
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The Title Sponsors and the Nationality will dictate this. It is recommended that each team have 50% of its riders from the nations of the sponsors and nationality. This is not a requirement, but meeting and passing that 50% will result in bonuses to the team.
The Main Sponsor will contribute 25%, the Secondary Sponsor 15% and the Nationality 10%.
If your sponsors and nationality are the same then all your riders will be from the same nation.
If, for example, your main sponsor it UK, secondary ITA and nationality ESP then 25% must be British, 15% Italian and 10% Spanish.
If you have 50% British, but only 10% Italian and 2% Spanish you do not meet the minimum requirements, but you will get some bonuses as you exceed 1 part.
Thus there are 4 areas of bonuses. 1 for main, 1 for secondary, 1 for nationality and 1 for meeting all 3 others.
Bonuses for Main Sponsor: More Money or Easier Contract Renewals
Bonuses for Secondary Sponsor: More Money or Easier Contract Renewals
Bonuses for Nationality: Better Wildcard chances or More Money
Bonuses for combination: More Money, Better Wildcard chances and ???


2 Divisions
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There will be 2 divisions. The top division is the World Tour (WT). The second division is the Continental Tour (CT).
The WT contains 16 teams. The CT contains all the rest and is unlimited in size.


Draft
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To make the squads there will be a draft.
Before each round the managers will PM me their list of riders for that round.
The WT will get a 4 round head start on the CT. But round 4 will be limited to a certain type/age of rider. This is to create some separation between the divisions, but only a relatively small one. There may also be a limit imposed on round 3 as well.
The First Round Order will be generated using a random number generator. After this it will follow a serpentine system. That is 1,2,3,4,5… for round 1 then 16,15,14,13… for round two. At round 5 the CT teams join. Their order will be randomly generated. They will pick ahead of the WT teams. Then the serpentine will resume.
In the Offseason, instead of transfers there will be another draft. This will be more similar to the NFL way of drafting. The lowest ranked team will get 1st pick of the available riders, while the top ranked team gets last pick. CT and WT draft at the same time but CT then WT ie. Lowest CT team, then lowest WT team, 2nd lowest CT, 2nd Lowest WT etc.


Wildcards
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All WT teams will be all WT races. This means there are 6 wildcard spaces for each race. CT teams will apply for these spots. The best 6 applicants will be selected by me.
The determining factors are Nationality, Riders, Previous Results and anything else I may need to think of to separate the applicants.
Applying for a wildcard will cost money. The Tour of Beijing and the Canadian One-Days will be the cheapest. The Tour de France will be the most expensive. A full list of costs will come later.


Calendar
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All WT teams must race all WT races. There are 6 wildcards for each WT race.
There will be large selection of CT races to choose from. Each team will be sent a list of races they are to participate in. They can them swap any races for any other race, as long as the total race days remains the same.
The WT teams will be sent a small selection of CT races. Again they can be swapped to the same race day total.
These calendars will be related to nationalities and orientations.
Race Day Limit
Each rider will have a 60 day limit to accommodate the larger calendar.


Rankings
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Each race and stage earns points.
WT and CT will have separate rankings. These rankings will affect Contract Renewals, Draft Picks, Money, Divisions.
Full points tables will be available later.


Relegation/Promotion
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The top11 ranked WT teams will be safe. The top 5 CT teams will be weighed against the bottom5 WT teams. The decision will involve HQ quality, results, riders and anything I may need to separate them. Thus we could have 5 teams up and down. Minimum of 2 up and down.


Money
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Every team will start with a set budget, which will be greater for WT teams. Teams will earn more money through results, rankings and nationalization bonuses.
Money will be used for renewals, scouting and wildcards. Money can also be used to buy other teams draft picks. May be other uses not yet thought of.


Scouting
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There is a scouting aspect.
Each team will be sent a basic report on some riders from each of its nations. You can spend money to get better reports, more riders in the reports and more regions.
If you see a rider you may like you can pay to sign them.
More details to be worked out as we go along


Jerseys
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You can use custom jerseys. But don’t spam established jersey makers.
Hopefully a couple of people will be happy to be specific game jersey makers.
If a sponsor already has a jersey in game then that will be used until all other sponsors have a jersey.
Contract Renewals
During the draft the order in which the riders are selected will decide their initial contract selection.
Rounds 1,4,7,10,13 etc. will have 1 year contracts
Rounds 2,5,8,11,14 etc will have 2 year contracts
Rounds 3,6,9,12,15 etc will have 3 year contracts
In the Offseason there will be the opportunity to renew some of these riders. A new contract will depend on team and rider nationality, results, rankings, money. New contracts will always be 3 years. You can opt out of renewing certain riders, this will make other riders easier to renew.


Goals
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Goals will have no impact on money. They may help with wildcards.


Role-Playing Aspect
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Anyone can create a custom rider. Their age will dictate their stats.
Like the PCMCL riders will comment etc. The better the comments etc the more “points” they will get. “Points” will be spent on stat increases.
Managers comments etc will earn them “team points”. These “team points” will be spent on increasing non-custom riders stats.
There will be a limit on non-custom rider progression.
Starting Stats: (n.b. these are not confirmed)
18 year olds – Have 5 points to add from the minimum values. Cant exceed the maximums
Climber - 66-68 MO - 65-67 HI - 62 FL - TT 51-53 - 64-66 ACC And all other stats from 50-63
Northern Classics - 65-67 COB - 63-65 HI - 65-67 FL - SP OR TT 62-64 - And all other stats from 50-63
Fighter - 67-69 FL - 67-69 PR - 63 - 65 TT - 63-65 HI
Puncheur - 66-69 HI - 66-68 COB - 64-66 ACC - 63-65 SP
Stage Race - 67-69 REC - 64-66 MO - 64-66 TT - 64-66 PR
Time triallist - 67-69 TT - 67-69 PR, 64-66 FL - 62-64 ACC
Sprinter - 67-69 SP - 66-68 ACC - 65-67 FL - 62-66 HI
+1 to all stats for each year older for 19,20,21,21 and 23 year olds
+2 from 24-26
+3 from 27-30
+4 from 31+


Money and Points Numbers
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WT
Short Tour
Stage win: 10 Points:
Stage top3: 7 Points
Stage top10: 3 Point
General Classification: 300 Points
General Classification (top3): 125 Points
General Classification (top10): 50 Points
Mountain Jersey: 100 Points
Sprint Jersey: 100 Points
Youth Jersey: 50 Points
Team competetion: 100 Points

One Day's
Win: 125 Points
Top3: 75 Points
Top10: 50 Points

Giro + Vuelta
Stage win: 17 Points:
Stage top3: 11 Points
Stage top10: 5 Point
General Classification: 500 Points
General Classification (top3): 300 Points
General Classification (top10): 125 Points
Mountain Jersey: 200 Points
Sprint Jersey: 200 Points
Youth Jersey: 175 Points
Team competetion: 200 Points

Tour de France
Stage win: 22 Points:
Stage top3: 16 Points
Stage top10: 10 Points
General Classification: 750 Points
General Classification (top3): 400 Points
General Classification (top10): 200 Points
Mountain Jersey: 350 Points
Sprint Jersey: 350 Points
Youth Jersey: 225 Points
Team competetion: 350 Points

CT
Short Tour
Stage win: 5
Stage top3: 3
Stage top10: 1
General Classification: 250
General Classification (top3): 125
General Classification (top10): 50
Mountain Jersey: 75
Sprint Jersey: 75
Youth Jersey: 50
Team Competition: 75

One Day's
Win: 100
Top3: 75
Top10: 40

WT
Short Tour
Stage win: �500
Stage top3: �250
Stage top10: �100
General Classification: �1500
General Classification (top3): �750
General Classification (top10): �500
Mountain Jersey: �1000
Sprint Jersey: �1000
Youth Jersey: �500
Team competition: �1000

One Day's
Win: �1250
Top3: �750
Top10: �500

Giro + Vuelta
Stage win: �1500
Stage top3: �750
Stage top10: �350
General Classification: �5000
General Classification (top3): �2500
General Classification (top10): �1000
Mountain Jersey: �2500
Sprint Jersey: �2500
Youth Jersey: �2500
Team competetion: �2500
Fighter Reward (stage): �500
Fighter Reward (race): �1000

Tour de France
Stage win: �2000
Stage top3: �1250
Stage top10: �500
General Classification: �10000
General Classification (top3): �5000
General Classification (top10): �2500
Mountain Jersey: �4500
Sprint Jersey: �4500
Youth Jersey: �4000
Team competetion: �3500
Fighter Reward (stage): �1000
Fighter Reward (race): �2000

CT
Short Tour
Stage win: �400
Stage top3: �225
Stage top10: �100
General Classification: �1300
General Classification (top3): �650
General Classification (top10): �250
Mountain Jersey: �750
Sprint Jersey: �750
Youth Jersey: �500
Team competition: �750

One Day's
Win: �1000
Top3: �500
Top10: �250

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FreitasPCM
The Ultimate PCM Fantasy Season...? Pfft
 
Jesleyh
I got one question left...
What do you exactly mean with bonus for combination?(in Nationalisation) Do you get a bonus for both sponsors from the same country, for countries that fit together(NL-Belgium, UK-USA, Spain-Portugal) or something else?
Oh, and since the Roleplaying stats aren't decided yet, can I do a suggestion? Maybe you can make the MO value for stage racers 1 or 2 higher and the PRL 1 or 2 lower... Just an idea Wink
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TheManxMissile
@Jesl
Where you could meet the 25% of your main sponsor you could fail the 10% of the nationality. The combination bonus is an extra bonus for meeting all 3 sponsor minimums.
I'll see how the MO and PR changes effect the overall look.
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Atlantius
(Still) looking good.

Am I understanding it correctly if all WT-one day races give same points. Shouldn't you get more for winning P-R than GP de Quebec?
Perhaps just up the pts. 25 for the monuments?

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TheManxMissile
@Atlantius, its on my list of changes to make now
There will be extra points for MSR, RVV, PR, LBL and Lombardia.
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Jesleyh
TheManxMissile wrote:
@Jesl
Where you could meet the 25% of your main sponsor you could fail the 10% of the nationality. The combination bonus is an extra bonus for meeting all 3 sponsor minimums.
I'll see how the MO and PR changes effect the overall look.

Ah, I understand now. But if I understand correctly, if for example your sprinter is 33 years old, you start with sprint above 85. 18: 69, 19: 70 (+4*1)23: 74 24: 76 (+2*2) 26: 80 27: 83 28: 86. I'm sure I do miss something, but what do I miss?
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TheManxMissile
@Jesl
Those numbers weren't confirmed for that reason. I hadnt run through them fully, so thank you. They will be changed.
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Ian Butler
Seems like a nice set-up, looking through this.
 
fcancellara
Café Pedro Cycling League?

EDIT: Because this is an open fantasy game to the community, and Café Pedro is the heart of this community? Pfft
Edited by fcancellara on 02-12-2012 22:46
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Jakstar22
fcancellara wrote:
Café Pedro Cycling League?

EDIT: Because this is an open fantasy game to the community, and Café Pedro is the heart of this community? Pfft


I like it. But isn't it already being used.
 
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TheManxMissile
fcancellara wrote:
Café Pedro Cycling League?

EDIT: Because this is an open fantasy game to the community, and Café Pedro is the heart of this community? Pfft


i like that!

Maybe: The ULTIMATE Cafe Pedro Cycling League?
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Jakstar22
TheManxMissile wrote:
fcancellara wrote:
Café Pedro Cycling League?

EDIT: Because this is an open fantasy game to the community, and Café Pedro is the heart of this community? Pfft


i like that!

Maybe: The ULTIMATE Cafe Pedro Cycling League?


That's even better.
 
fcancellara
Jakstar22 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
fcancellara wrote:
Café Pedro Cycling League?

EDIT: Because this is an open fantasy game to the community, and Café Pedro is the heart of this community? Pfft


i like that!

Maybe: The ULTIMATE Cafe Pedro Cycling League?


That's even better.


The Ultimate Café Pedro Cycling League. Now that is a name! Pfft
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Pinktay3
Tad long don't you think? Doesn't exactly roll of the toungue...
 
Ian Butler
Just the UCP Cycling League, then, that's shorter Wink
Try to pronounce it, it has this funny hidden message Pfft
Edited by Ian Butler on 03-12-2012 08:50
 
sutty68
How about this :

S - Sub forum
C - Cycling
L - League

Simple but effective Wink
 
Ian Butler
But it doesn't roll out too well Pfft
How about this:
Jens Voigt Cycling League, as a tribute to our all time favorite rider Grin
 
sutty68
Ian Butler wrote:
But it doesn't roll out too well Pfft
How about this:
Jens Voigt Cycling League, as a tribute to our all time favorite rider Grin


Why Jens Voigt, when there are plenty of Better riders out there Frown
 
Ian Butler
Better riders than Voigt? What are you on? Pfft
 
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