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| Welwyn |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:16
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Based on the idea of Le Trik in PCM 11. I am setting up a similar version of this in PCM 12 with one vital difference. Instead of Teams though, it'll involve National Teams.
Basically, you act like a Director Sportif, except instead of running a Team, you season plan and organise the country. As the best way to do this is in Stage Race/Classic mode rather than Career, there will be no fitness hence the 70 day limit and a maximum of 2 Grand Tours per-rider. This stops, for example, the manager of Spain just sending Contador to all three Grand Tours and making it unrealistic. (as those who know the original idea, the increase from 60-70 days is due to the increase in races)
While I will run each race one at a time. In terms of team selection they will run in regards to where they stand in the real-life 2012 calendar.
For Example: I will race Paris-Nice in it's entirety before I start Tirreno-Adriatico. However, because these two events took place at the same time in real life, No rider can race both events.
You get given points for how you do over the season and at the end of the season we end up with a World Team Champion and World Individual Champion.
I will also award a 'Director Sportif of the season award'. This will go to the player I feel has done best with the resources available. Therefore, if Slovenia or Norway finish 5th in the World Team rankins, that is more impressive than the manager of Spain or the UK winning the World Team Championship.
These 21 countries have big enough squads in PCM 12 to complete this season on a limit of 70 days per rider:
 AUSTRALIA - Marcovdw
Spoiler Paris-Nice squad:
Jonathan Cantwell
Zakkari Dempster
Mitchell Docker
Matthew Goss
Brett Lancaster
Robbie McEwen
Wesley Sulzberger
Matthew Wilson
Tirreno-Adriatico squad:
Matthew Hayman
Leigh Howard
Trent Lowe
Richie Porte
Mark Renshaw
Rory Sutherland
Christopher Sutton
David Tanner
 BASQUE COUNTRY - maxime86
Spoiler Paris-Nice squad:
Zubelida
Ion Izaguire
Grate
Uratsun
Fernandez
Khadri
Anton
Galdos
T-A
Sammy Sanchez
Nieve
Intauxti
Vedrugo
Txuuruka
Lopez Garcia
Fedrigo
Martinez
 BELGIUM - IAN BUTLER
Spoiler Paris - Nice
Jurgen Van Den Broeck
Dennis Vanendert
Dries Devenyns
Kevin De Weert
Tom Boonen
Gianni Meersman
Fréderique Robert
Pieter Serry
Tirreno - Adriatico
Thomas De Gendt
Bart De Clerq
Kris Boeckmans
Jurgen Roelandts
Jurgen Van De Walle
Jan Bakelants
Nico Eeckhout
Laurens De Vreese
 CANADA - Pinktay3
Spoiler | P - N | T - A | | Hesjedal | Barry | | Boivin | Lacombe | | Gilbert | Rollin | | Bell | Campbell | | L - L | Batty | | Vives | Langlois | | Routley | Brown | | Pinfold | Anderson |
 COLUMBIA - FERNANDO97
Spoiler P-N
Darwin Atapuma
Esteban Chavez
Jarlinson Pantano
Carlos Betancourt
Chalapud
Sarmiento
Arredondo
Laverde
T-A
Ardila
Duque
Rubiano
Suarez
Ospina
Sanchez
Serpa
Tamayo
 DENMARK - Atlantius
Spoiler Paris - Nice
Roster:
Chris Anker Sørensen
Nicki Sørensen
Sebastian Lander
René Jørgensen
Troels Vinther
Michael Rasmussen
Søren Nissen
Jesper Hansen
Tirreno - Adriatico
Roster:
Matti Breschel
Jakob Fuglsang
Alex Rasmussen
Martin Pedersen
Martin Mortensen
Anders Lund
Lasse Bøchman
André Steensen
 FRANCE - sammyt93
Spoiler | Paris Nice | Tirreno Adriatico | | peraud | voeckler | | chavanel | rolland | | chavanel | pinot | | casar | engoulvent | | kern | le mevel | | offredo | gallopin | | coppel | demere | | roux | moncoutie |
 GERMANY - FroomeDog99
Spoiler Tony Martin
Marcel Kittel
Gerald Ciolek
Stefan Schumacher
Stefan Radolcha
Andreas Klier
Linus Gerdermann
Marcel Sieberg
Tirenno - Adriatico:
Andreas Kloden
Heinrich Haussler
Robert Wagner
Christian Knees
Patrick Gretsch
Domnech Roels
Sergej Fuchs
Grischa Niermann
 GREAT BRITAIN - TheManxMissile
Spoiler | Paris-Nice | Tirreno-Adiatico | | Wiggins | Froome | | Swift | Thomas | | Millar | Cummings | | Stannard | Lloyd | | House | Tiernan-Locke | | Hunt | Dowsett | | Clancy | Thwaites | | Kennaugh | Oliphant |
 ITALY - Neillster
Spoiler Team Italy:
Paris-Nice
Nibali
Cunego
Pozzovivo
Cataldo
Bennati
Viviani
Paolini
Breusghin
Tirreno-Adriatico
Basso
Scarponi
Garzelli
Pinotti
Brambilla
Petacchi
Modolo
Quinziato
 HOLLAND - OLLFARDH
Spoiler Paris-Nice
Lars Boom
Robert Gesink
Reinier Honig
Steven Kruijswijk
Wout Poels
Joost Posthuma
Laurens Ten Dam
Kenny Van Hummel
Tirreno-Adriatico
Theo Bos
Wilco Kelderman
Sebastian Langeveld
Bauke Mollema
Niki Terpstra
Maarten Tjallingii
Jos Van Emden
Lieuwe Westra
 NORWAY - sutty68
Spoiler PARIS-NICE
EDVALD BOASSON HAGEN
LARS PETTER NORDHAUG
FREDERIK WILMANN
CHRISTER RAKE
SONDRE SORTVEIT
KRISTIAN FRIVOLD
Erik Kasa Jarlseth
Stian Remme
TIRRENO-ADRIATICO
THOR HUSHOVD
ALEXANDER KRISTOFF
GABRIEL RASCH
VEGARD STAKE LAENGEN
FREDERIK KROGH-LARSEN
JON BERGSLAND
MAGNUS ESPELAND
OLE HAAVARDSHOLM
 PORTUGAL - MIGUEL98
Spoiler Paris Nice
Rui Costa
Ricardo Mestre
Sérgio Paulinho
Nuno Ribeiro
João Cabreira
Manuel Cardoso
Sérgio Ribeiro
Edgar Pinto
Tirreno-Adriatico
Tiago Machado
Bruno Pires
Rui Sousa
André Cardoso
Nélson Oliveira
João Pereira
Jóni Brandão
César Fonte
 RUSSIA - Stromeon
Spoiler Paris-Nice
Yury Trofimov
Nikolai Trussov
Vladimir Karpets
Evgueni Petrov
Alexander Serov
Alexander Khatuntsev
Evgeny Sokolov
Alexei Markov
Tirreno-Adriatico
Mikhail Ignatiev
Boris Shpilevsky
Alexander Efimkin
Vladimir Efimkin
Artem Ovechkin
Nikita Novikov
Alexander Porsev
Vladimir Gusev
 SLOVENIA - SSJ2Luigi
Spoiler Paris - Nice
Janez Brajkovic
Borut Bozic
Kristijan Koren
Aldo Ino Ilesic
Gregor Gazvoda
Miha Svab
Jani Music
Jan Tratnik
Tirenno-Adriatico
Simon Spilak
Grega Bole
Jure Kocjan
Matej Gnezda
Benjamin Cujnik
Primoz Segina
Aljez Hocevar
Robert Vrecer
 SPAIN - JAXIKA
Spoiler Alberto Contador
DAvid Arroyo
Juan Antonio Flecha
Francisco Ventoso
Constantino Zaballa
Alejandro Marque
Enrique Mata
David Blanco
T-A
Joaquin Rodriguez
Luis Leon Sanchez
Jose Joaquin Rojas Gil
Ruben Plaza
Jose Ivan Gutierrez
Juan Jose Cobo Acebo
CArlos Barredo
Luis Pasamontes
 SWITZERLAND - francopell
Spoiler Cancellara, D. Wyss, Albasini, Elmiger, Zaugg, Tschopp, Rast and Schjar for P-N.
Morabito, Dietzieker, M. Wyss, Vitoria, Addy, Kusztor, Aregger and Kohler for Tirreno.
 USA - Jakstar22
Spoiler Paris Nice
Chris Horner
Levi Leiphemer
Jake Keough
Peter Stitina
Danny Pate
Taylor Phinney
Alex Howes
Jeff Louder
Tirreno-Adriatico
Tejay Van Garderan
Tyler Farrar
Christian Vande Velde
Tom Danielson
John Murphy
Andrew Talansky
David Zebriskie
George Hincapie
CALENDER OF RACES: (Races that overlap appear on same line)
Tour Down Under (6)
Paris-Nice (8), Tirreno-Adriatico (7)
MILAN-SAN REMO
Vuelta ciclista a Catalunya (7), E3, Gent-Wevelgem (overlaps Catalunya not E3)
TOUR OF FLANDERS
PARIS-ROUBAIX
Amstel Gold Race
La Fleche Wallonne
LIEGE-BASTOGNE-LIEGE
Tour de Romandie (6)
GIRO DI ITALIA (21), Amgen Tour of California (8)
Criterium de Dauphine Libere (8)
Tour de Suisse (9)
TOUR DE FRANCE (21), GP de Pologne (7)
Eneco Tour (8)
Classica de San Sebastian
VUELTA A ESPANA (21)
(next 4 races all clash with Vuelta but not each other)
Vattenfall Cyclassics
GP Ouest-France
GP de Quebec
GP de Montreal
GIRO DI LOMBARDIA
Paris-Tours
Tour of Beijing (5)
RANKING POINTS SYSTEM:
| Russia | 245 | | Belgium | 235 | | Germany | 170 | | Australia | 160 | | France | 160 | | Norway | 110 | | Britain | 100 | | Spain | 100 | | Canada | 75 | | Switzerland | 75 | | Slovenia | 50 | | Italy | 20 | | USA | 10 | | Holland | 10 | | Basque | 5 | | Portugal | 5 |
Spoiler | Eduard Vorganov | Russia | 220 | | Matthew Goss | Australia | 160 | | Sylvain Chavanel | France | 155 | | Fabian Wegmann | Germany | 120 | | Greg Van Avermaet | Belgium | 105 | | Thor Hushovd | Norway | 100 | | Tom Boonen | Belgium | 80 | | Geraint Thomas | Britain | 75 | | Ryder Hesjedal | Canada | 75 | | José Joaquin Rojas Gil | Spain | 75 | | Florian Stalder | Switzerland | 70 | | Jure Kocjan | Slovenia | 50 | | André Greipel | Germany | 45 | | Alberto Contador | Spain | 20 | | Bradley Wiggins | Britain | 20 | | Daniele Bennati | Italy | 20 | | Alexei Markov | Russia | 20 | | Pieter Serry | Belgium | 10 | | Edvald Boasson Hagen | Norway | 10 | | Tyler Farrar | USA | 5 | | Fabian Cancellara | Switzerland | 5 | | Tony Martin | Germany | 5 | | David Millar | Britain | 5 | | Joost Posthuma | Holland | 5 | | Taylor Phinney | USA | 5 | | Vladimir Karpets | Russia | 5 | | Francisco Ventoso | Spain | 5 | | Kenny Van Hummel | Holland | 5 | | Koldo Fernandez | Basque | 5 | | Manuel Cardoso | Portugal | 5 | | Sébastien Chavanel | France | 5 |
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Edited by Welwyn on 20-11-2012 22:24
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| Neillster |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:18
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Yeap, I'd like to be in, though is it ok if I don't have PCM12, but PCM11? |
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| Welwyn |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:20
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Neillster wrote:
Yeap, I'd like to be in, though is it ok if I don't have PCM12, but PCM11?
Yeah, issue with stats though as it'd be impossible to screenshot every rider you have. |
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:22
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Danish National Cycling HQ
The Danes will be going for the unexpected victories. We will try and surprise people. As we are not a country with lots of potential GT-winners we will chose our targets carefully and take what we can get. Be it GC, stages, mountain jerseys...
- For the classics Matti Breschel will be captain
- Jakob Fuglsang will be leader in stage races
- Chris Anker Sørensen will ride his chances in mountainous races with only a few km of TT
A lot of other riders will be given their chances to chase the surprises on the routes suiting them.
Full list of riders chosen for National Team:
Spoiler
Breschel, Matti
Fuglsang, Jakob
Sørensen, Chris Anker
Sørensen, Nicki
Rasmussen, Alex
Bak, Lars Ytting
Mørkøv, Michael
Bøchman, Lasse
Lander, Sebatian
Rasmussen, Michael
Steensen, André
Vinther, Troels
Nissen, Søren
Hansen, Jesper
Christensen, Mads
Mortensen, Martin
Vandborg, Brian
Pedersen, Martin
Madsen, Jens Erik
Jørgensen, René
Jørgensen, Ricky Enø
Lund, Anders
Quaade, Rasmus
Foder, Daniel
Klostergaard, Kasper
Tour Down Under
Spoiler Roster:
Matti Brechel
Sebastian Lander
Michael Mørkøv
Lars Ytting Bak
Jens-Erik Madsen
René Jørgensen
Martin Pedersen
Achievements:
- René Jørgensen in points jersey on stage 4, shared 4th in points ranking and shared 8th in Mountains ranking
- Matti Breschel 15th in GC
Paris - Nice
Spoiler Roster:
Chris Anker Sørensen
Nicki Sørensen
Sebastian Lander
René Jørgensen
Troels Vinther
Michael Rasmussen
Søren Nissen
Jesper Hansen
Tirreno - Adriatico
Spoiler Roster:
Matti Breschel
Jakob Fuglsang
Alex Rasmussen
Martin Pedersen
Martin Mortensen
Anders Lund
Lasse Bøchman
André Steensen
Edited by Atlantius on 07-11-2012 18:58
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:24
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I'd like to be in, if that's possible. Can I manage Belgium?  |
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| jaxika |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:27
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I'd like to take Spain if possible |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:27
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If this goes on, I get Portugal. |
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| fernando97 |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:28
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I'd like to participate. Can I take Colombia?  |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:31
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Ian Butler wrote:
I'd like to be in, if that's possible. Can I manage Belgium?
Darn it, I'll take Holland then, if possible
Edited by Ollfardh on 27-10-2012 11:33
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| Welwyn |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:38
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Atlantius wrote:
Perhaps an Excel file with the PCM12 stats could be uploaded?
Might need help with how to do that but yeah, might be best |
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| Welwyn |
Posted on 27-10-2012 11:49
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Atlantius wrote:
Perhaps. Could you perhaps elaborate a bit on the idea?
Edit: You should perhaps edit the "French" flag in the country list
Done
Basically, you act like a Director Sportif, except instead of running a Team, you season plan and organise the country. As the best way to do this is in Stage Race/Classic mode rather than Career, there will be no fitness hence the 70 day limit. This stops, for example, the manager of Spain just sending Contador to all three Grand Tours and making it unrealistic. (as those who know the original idea, the increase from 60-70 days is due to the increase in races)
You get given points for how you do over the season and at the end of the season we end up with a World Team Champion and World Individual Champion.
I will also award a 'Director Sportif of the season award'. This will go to the player I feel has done best with the resources available. Therefore, if Slovenia or Norway finish 5th in the World Team rankins, that is more impressive than the manager of Spain or the UK winning the World Team Championship.
EDIT: added this into the top post.
Edited by Welwyn on 27-10-2012 11:51
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| fernando97 |
Posted on 27-10-2012 12:12
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Atlantius wrote:
Welwyn wrote:
Atlantius wrote:
Perhaps an Excel file with the PCM12 stats could be uploaded?
Might need help with how to do that but yeah, might be best
Thoughts about team strenght:
Perhaps it would even make sense to split some of the larger nations into smaller ones to make the game less skewed. As it is e.g. Spain will be able to produce a favorite for every single race on the calendar. Perhaps if split into two or three parts by region number. In PCM11 Spain consist of regions 801-817. Then perhaps we could have two teams on regions 801-808 and 809-817. Similarly on other big nations with several regions and favorites for every race?
Edit: I'll take Denmark
I like the idea, it'd make sense imo. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 27-10-2012 12:22
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...please
Edited by TheManxMissile on 27-10-2012 12:24
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| Pinktay3 |
Posted on 27-10-2012 12:32
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Can i take Canada please?
And Jakstar22 (my little brother) would like to take USA or Australia |
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 27-10-2012 12:39
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can i be in charge of France?
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 27-10-2012 12:53
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Can i have my second nation "Australia"
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 27-10-2012 13:00
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Can I have Britain
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 27-10-2012 13:00
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FroomeDog99 wrote:
Can I have Britain
too late
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 27-10-2012 13:06
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Could Luxembourg be added then?
If not i'll have France!
Edited by FroomeDog99 on 27-10-2012 13:08
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 27-10-2012 13:09
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FroomeDog99 wrote:
Could Luxembourg be added?
If not i'll have France!
i've already taken france.
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