|
Days Raced
|
| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 05-10-2007 18:18
|
Domestique
Posts: 463
Joined: 17-09-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
How many days of racing do your riders generally have in a season? Do you have different amounts for your leaders and your domestiques?
Is (50) the threshold that you do not want your young riders to go past?
What is a young rider? Under 25? or just someone under (4) for experience? |
| |
|
|
| Addy291 |
Posted on 05-10-2007 18:21
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8915
Joined: 29-11-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
How many days of racing do your riders generally have in a season? Do you have different amounts for your leaders and your domestiques?
Is (50) the threshold that you do not want your young riders to go past?
What is a young rider? Under 25? or just someone under (4) for experience?
a young rider is under 25, maybe up to 27 even
and 50 is definatley NOT the threshold for your young riders
if they race over 30/35 days a season, then their potential weakens, and they won't be able to get as good as they would've done
YORKSHIRE BORN, YORKSHIRE BRED... |
| |
|
|
| issoisso |
Posted on 05-10-2007 18:25
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
in every sport, ruling authorities define "young rider" as anyone under 23 or 24 (depends on the sport)
as for other riders, after 40 days, the maximum race fitness they can achieve starts to decrease
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
|
| |
|
|
| Setzel |
Posted on 05-10-2007 18:29
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3692
Joined: 16-04-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
I played with Gedemann 100 days ! exactly 100 days after one season he was fantastic second season won TDF !
Eating my daily Breakfast at 9 pm
|
| |
|
|
| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 05-10-2007 18:32
|
Domestique
Posts: 463
Joined: 17-09-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Holy crap!! 100 days of racing!! I have a rider at 46 in May. His racing fitness is still at 20. Is that a bug, since it is supposed to decline after 40 racing days.
In real life, how many days of racing do the riders usually have? |
| |
|
|
| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 05-10-2007 18:34
|
Team Manager
Posts: 33046
Joined: 08-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
In real life, how many days of racing do the riders usually have?
Using the race list on Mark Cavendish's website, he has raced about 60-70 days this season.
Edited by SportingNonsense on 05-10-2007 18:34
|
| |
|
|
| Addy291 |
Posted on 05-10-2007 18:36
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8915
Joined: 29-11-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
but people like Sastre who last year, or the year before rode 3 GT's have over 100 race days
YORKSHIRE BORN, YORKSHIRE BRED... |
| |
|
|
| Setzel |
Posted on 05-10-2007 18:36
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3692
Joined: 16-04-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Giovanni Lombardi 2004 all 3 GT that means 63 days he raced that year 100 +
Eating my daily Breakfast at 9 pm
|
| |
|
|
| issoisso |
Posted on 05-10-2007 18:39
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
yup, a few guys every year do all 3. Rasmussen last year, Sastre as well. this year Piepoli. Brandt rode and finished all 3 
guys who don't work at the front (usually sprinters) do more races. Boonen does over 80 days every year.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
|
| |
|
|
| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 05-10-2007 18:43
|
Domestique
Posts: 463
Joined: 17-09-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Nice. Thanks for the info. |
| |
|
|
| Panaflex |
Posted on 05-10-2007 19:02
|
Neo-Pro
Posts: 289
Joined: 11-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Addy291 wrote:
if they race over 30/35 days a season, then their potential weakens, and they won't be able to get as good as they would've done
Well, it seems to have grown into an urban myth or can anyone really confirm this effect.
I have never noticed any difference between young talents, whether they've completed 20 or 60 races per season. I've had Hagen on 3 different teams doing between 30-70 reason per season and he turned out almost the same in year 3 no matter what.
Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever.Lance
|
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 24-12-2024 20:02
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| Addy291 |
Posted on 05-10-2007 19:05
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8915
Joined: 29-11-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
Panaflex wrote:
Addy291 wrote:
if they race over 30/35 days a season, then their potential weakens, and they won't be able to get as good as they would've done
Well, it seems to have grown into an urban myth or can anyone really confirm this effect.
I have never noticed any difference between young talents, whether they've completed 20 or 60 races per season. I've had Hagen on 3 different teams doing between 30-70 reason per season and he turned out almost the same in year 3 no matter what.
i've just followed the urban myth
i've never got far enough to experience whether it made any difference
YORKSHIRE BORN, YORKSHIRE BRED... |
| |
|
|
| Setzel |
Posted on 05-10-2007 19:07
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3692
Joined: 16-04-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Because you never play more than one season
Eating my daily Breakfast at 9 pm
|
| |
|
|
| Addy291 |
Posted on 05-10-2007 19:10
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8915
Joined: 29-11-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
setzel wrote:
Because you never play more than 4 months
and it's not my fault, i just get really bored of 1 career after a few months, it's really annoying
my furthest career = Ubbink, PPDB, 5/6 April, 1st season
Edited by Addy291 on 05-10-2007 19:12
YORKSHIRE BORN, YORKSHIRE BRED... |
| |
|
|
| Alejandro_Valverde |
Posted on 05-10-2007 19:11
|
Free Agent
Posts: 103
Joined: 12-07-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
issoisso wrote:
yup, a few guys every year do all 3. Rasmussen last year, Sastre as well. this year Piepoli. Brandt rode and finished all 3
guys who don't work at the front (usually sprinters) do more races. Boonen does over 80 days every year.
It was Aerts who finished all three GTs, and he was the only one this year. Only Ongarato was the other who started all, but he gave up Le Tour
|
| |
|
|
| issoisso |
Posted on 05-10-2007 19:20
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
yes, you're right. you'd be amazed how many times I say Brandt when I'm thinking Aerts
I shouldn't...Aerts was a near-top rider once...
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
|
| |
|
|
| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 05-10-2007 19:23
|
Team Manager
Posts: 33046
Joined: 08-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Addy, you should just pick a team and go for it. try to complete a season at least!
|
| |
|
|
| Addy291 |
Posted on 05-10-2007 19:28
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8915
Joined: 29-11-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
i'll have a go with PCM Spain soon, hopefully i will get a season done, i have bought the last 3 PCM's and still have no clue what happens at the end of the season so i'll try to do it
YORKSHIRE BORN, YORKSHIRE BRED... |
| |
|
|
| Panaflex |
Posted on 05-10-2007 19:33
|
Neo-Pro
Posts: 289
Joined: 11-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
I usually don't get bored until my team is basically unbeatable - then it starts to suck.
Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever.Lance
|
| |
|
|
| Setzel |
Posted on 05-10-2007 20:21
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3692
Joined: 16-04-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
That means 4 season for me when i have 4-5 mo man 2 cobbles guys 2 sprinters and one good hilly rider...
Eating my daily Breakfast at 9 pm
|
| |
|
