Carlos da Cruz on doping - free PDF
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Posted on 05-10-2007 07:57
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Some of the first pages are backside up. Just press Shift+Ctrl+Plus or Minus to rotate it to where you want it. Credit goes to a user in the PPDB forum for having scanned the article.
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Posted on 05-10-2007 08:23
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This is from ProCycling isnt it?
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Posted on 05-10-2007 08:34
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Yeh it was in that TDF round up one i think... |
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Posted on 05-10-2007 08:37
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Danke Schöen herr Dan
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Posted on 05-10-2007 08:55
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"The day of the protest at the start in Orthez - Wednesday, the day Cristian Moreni was revealed to be positive - I decided not to wait on the line because I don't want to be dictated to." Wiggins recalled in his Guardian column.
"I went through the start line with the peloton and when I caught up, everyone was laughing, patting me on the back and saying well done for coming with us. I heard some awful things at that point, which made me very depressed - the worst was one rider who joked that he didn't understand the French, that if they took drugs they would go faster and why didn't they try it."
"except last year when Phonak and another team that's still around made a point of chasing our riders down every time they tried to get into a break, just because, apparently, we talked too much about doping."
Edited by issoisso on 05-10-2007 08:55
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Posted on 05-10-2007 09:04
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Which team is the second one ?
What Wiggins relates is quite depressing, it shows you how much remains to be done before things and habits change, for every one. |
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Posted on 05-10-2007 09:10
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Aquarius wrote:
Which team is the second one ?
I've been wondering that. if I feel like it, I might be going through cyclingnews' live reports to check
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Posted on 05-10-2007 09:13
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I'd say it's either the American one, either a Spanish one, unless it would be Quick Step, but that'd be a bit more surprising then. |
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Posted on 05-10-2007 10:42
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It's one of the most interesting articles I have read in a long time. |
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Posted on 05-10-2007 18:41
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I've been going through the live reports at cyclingnews.com and I find no evidence of anyone other than Phonak riding in pursuit consistently except when someone extremely dangerous was in the break (the yellow jersey actually, a few of the times).
Just to show how inconclusive it was, the team who chased FDJ the most were Bouyges
based on those live reports, if I had to guess, I'd say Da Cruz is probably referring to T-Mobile or Lampre.
Edited by issoisso on 05-10-2007 18:42
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Posted on 05-10-2007 18:46
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Isn't Da Cruz the idiot who didn't start the Giro because he broke his toe at the Team presentation? My best friend broke his toe playing foorball(American) and he played on not letting it stop him.
Edited by Levi4life on 05-10-2007 18:50
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Posted on 05-10-2007 18:51
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Levi4life wrote:
Isn't Da Cruz the idiot who didn't start the Giro because he broke his toe at the Team presentation? My best friend broke his toe playing foorball(American) and he played on not letting it stop him.
idiot's a bit strong, but yes, he fell from the podium during the presentation
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Posted on 05-10-2007 19:17
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I like him, he seems straightforward.
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Posted on 05-10-2007 20:35
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That's one of the best cycling-related pictures I've ever seen.
It just sums up everything that needs to be said about cycling these days.
Does anyone remember the guys in the back...Lance, Jan, Heras, Vino, Hamilton. The creme de la creme of doping all lined up - priceless.
I tend to believe what he said about French cyclists not being doped - their "inferiority" to everyone else is just way too obvious.
Edited by Panaflex on 05-10-2007 20:36
Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever.Lance
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Posted on 05-10-2007 20:46
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Yeah, their best rider at the worlds was Fedrigo...being 30th
But at the espoirs however they allways have a few world class riders. |
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Posted on 06-10-2007 10:10
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Ruben wrote:
Yeah, their best rider at the worlds was Fedrigo...being 30th
But at the espoirs however they allways have a few world class riders. Normally, your max VO2 (more or less your max power) does not variate much between the juniors, the espoirs and the pros. What changes is the ability to maintain it on the long term (mountain after mountain, day/stage after day/stage).
If we've our normal share of good juniors and espoirs, it means our lack of talent at the pros is not genetics-related. |
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Posted on 06-10-2007 10:25
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Aquarius wrote:
it means our lack of talent at the pros is not genetics-related.
the genetic argument that some people use is quite simply extremely stupid, regardless of who they're talking about.
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Posted on 07-10-2007 16:45
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A very nice read. I ought to get Procycling magazine, but always forget to. |
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Posted on 07-10-2007 16:52
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Welcome to PCM.daily, HKK |
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Posted on 10-10-2007 18:02
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CrueTrue wrote:
Welcome to PCM.daily, HKK
Thank you. |
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