Nokere - Koerse Discussion
|
SportingNonsense |
Posted on 05-11-2011 13:09
|
Team Manager
Posts: 33046
Joined: 08-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Its the first opportunity for the continental riders to battle it out over the cobbles, and on paper it shouldnt be the hardest cobbled races this year - the main test being a down and up cobbled section inside the final kilometre.
But in reality, the race can still be torn apart. Last year Vanspeybrouck won by attacking with a lap to go, and holding off the chase of Steegmans, Blythe and Gusev. The year before that, again we had a solo winner in Enrico Franzoi. The race can come down to the final climb though - as it did in 2009 with a win for O'Grady.
IKEA may be gone, but the duo of Vanspeybrouck and Albert remain, further strengthened by Maes as part of Team Bpost's lineup. They lead the Belgian challenge, along with Pokerstars' Nolf.
Adam Blythe will also be a force to be reckoned with once again, while Langeveld and Veelers lead Koppert's Dutch contingent, and for France it is Focused's Gaudin and Trilux's Coyot.
But if it all stays together and comes to a charge up the final hill, Saab could also bring Hushovd and Breschel into play. And then theres the expensive sprinter Vantomme of Rothaus. Rather than start his season in the flat sprinter classics, like most other sprinters, he starts it in a cobbled race!
Spoiler Bpost
1. P. Vanspeybrouck
2. N. Albert
3. R. Broers
4. S. Dillier
5. N. Maes
6. J. Polanc
7. G. Van Keirsbulck
Rapha Condor
11. A. Blythe
12. C. Anguilet
13. A. Bakari
14. H. Kiprotich
15. T. Last
16. T. Teklit
17. E. Van Wyk
Pokerstars
21. F. Nolf
22. D. Boucher
23. A. Geslin
24. N. Ingels
25. R. Kluge
26. K. Van Impe
Koppert
31. S. Langeveld
32. O. Freire
33. A. Kamyshev
34. T. Stamsnijder
35. F. Taillefour
36. B. Traksel
37. T. Veelers
Focus
41. D. Gaudin
42. J. Adams
43. J. Debusschere
44. R. Hardy
45. A. Kirsch
46. C. Pineau
47. T. Skujins
Trilux
51. A. Coyot
52. M. Eichler
53. H. Haussler
54. S. Krauss
55. G. Rast
56. A. Saramotins
57. S. Tronet
Saab
61. M. Breschel
62. T. Hushovd
63. K. Ista
64. A. Lund
65. J. Pronk
66. P. Renäng
67. K. Van Hummel
Proximus
71. M. De Maar
72. J. Claes
73. I. Kip
74. H. Ma
75. E. Reekers
76. D. Shatskikh
77. K. Uugunbayar
Tinkoff
81. D. Kozontchuk
82. P. Ignatenko
83. A. Khatuntsev
84. P. Korzh
85. B. Shpilevski
86. A. Timofeev
87. K. Yatsevich
Red Bull
91. J. Giaux
92. G. Brown
93. A. Hansen
94. A. Jelloul
95. C. Manarelli
96. C. Sutton
97. S. Vanthourenhout
Rothaus
101. M. Vantomme
102. J. Ariesen
103. E. Baumann
104. T. Koep
105. M. Landa
106. C. Westphal
107. F. Willems
|
|
|
|
ember |
Posted on 05-11-2011 13:11
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6849
Joined: 27-03-2008
PCM$: 700.00
|
This should be a great one. I'd say Bpost are the favourite, strongly challenged by Blythe. Hopefully there will be lots of attacking.
Looking forward to it! |
|
|
|
Heine |
Posted on 05-11-2011 13:16
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4116
Joined: 08-04-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Here start bposts season, can they accept anything Else than winning?
Edit: on gf's iPad, it is on nowegian and likes to fix my spelling
Edited by Heine on 05-11-2011 13:19
|
|
|
|
roturn |
Posted on 05-11-2011 14:21
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Yeay. What have I thought to take part in this race? I really don`t know. Probably I had some PCM09 Nokere-Koerse in mind without cobbles or so.
So I just can hop for a succesful break with Willems or even Vantomme himself.
|
|
|
|
Heine |
Posted on 05-11-2011 14:23
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4116
Joined: 08-04-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
I will actually cheer for Vantomme in this race Just for the sake of it
|
|
|
|
Ad Bot |
Posted on 24-11-2024 01:40
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
IP: None |
|
|
Smowz |
Posted on 05-11-2011 14:43
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6479
Joined: 09-04-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
I get the feeling with 2 incredably powerful teams in Bpost and Pokerstars that the CTour cobbled races will be a bit more controlled.
The big question mark for them though is can they drop the cobblers who can sprint namely Blythe, Breschel and Hushovd? Or even Giaux and Vantomme?
I think Bpost and Pokerstars will have plenty of numbers in the top 20, but can they get men onto the top step of the podium?
I'll go for a Breschel win. (actually my brain says Blythe but surely not Rapha again!)
|
|
|
|
roturn |
Posted on 05-11-2011 14:49
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Fun Facts
- Belgium with the biggest amount of riders (15) followed by the Netherlands (11) | - Weakest rider: Egbert Reekers (Proximus/61,00) | - Strongest rider: Adam Blythe (Rapha/77,20) | - Average average: 70,900 | - Highest salary: Maxime Vantomme (Rothaus/€ 700.000) What a surprise | - Average wage: 102.123€ | - Youngest rider: Alex Kirsch (Focus/19) | - Oldest rider: Oscar Freire (Koppert/36) | - Average age: 26,711 | - Youngest team: Focused Cycling (23,286) | - Oldest teams: Saab & Trilux (29,571) | - 8 loanies, Focused riding with 4 | - 2 National Road Champions: Jelloul (Jayco/MOR), Anguilet (Rapha/GAB) |
|
|
|
|
roturn |
Posted on 05-11-2011 14:51
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Smowz wrote:
I get the feeling with 2 incredably powerful teams in Bpost and Pokerstars that the CTour cobbled races will be a bit more controlled.
The big question mark for them though is can they drop the cobblers who can sprint namely Blythe, Breschel and Hushovd? Or even Giaux and Vantomme?
I think Bpost and Pokerstars will have plenty of numbers in the top 20, but can they get men onto the top step of the podium?
I'll go for a Breschel win. (actually my brain says Blythe but surely not Rapha again!)
Talking about cobbler teams you surely forget Koppert, who are similar strong than Pokerstars imo. Also Trilux must be mentioned although they miss the big cobble star. |
|
|
|
Heine |
Posted on 05-11-2011 14:51
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4116
Joined: 08-04-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
I would say that Belgium haveing the highest number of riders were as big a suprise as Vantomme haveing the highest salary :-p
|
|
|
|
jt1109 |
Posted on 05-11-2011 15:07
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3215
Joined: 23-07-2008
PCM$: 400.00
|
Cheering for Blythe just because head says Bpost wins though. |
|
|
|
CountArach |
Posted on 05-11-2011 15:10
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8290
Joined: 14-07-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Let's hope that a full third of my budget spent on cobblestone riders proves worthwhile...
I worry that it may not be tough enough though and that Blythe can take it in a sprint.
|
|
|
|
felix_29 |
Posted on 05-11-2011 15:22
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3054
Joined: 08-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
No surprise my team is the oldest. It´s good enough to get a Top10 plus (hopefully) another rider in the Top20 but it shouldn´t be mentioned in one row with Bpost etc.
Let´s see what the gameplay does with Bpost squad, as they should take the win here.
|
|
|
|
roturn |
Posted on 05-11-2011 15:27
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Not in one row with the other 3. But with all of your riders being 70+ cobblers, you can expect them to do very well here, too. |
|
|
|
ember |
Posted on 05-11-2011 19:45
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6849
Joined: 27-03-2008
PCM$: 700.00
|
Second thoughts now, and I think we will see a successful attack from either a Bpost or a Pokerstars.com rider, or a move containing one from each of those teams. They clearly have the two strongest teams, and how many other strong team mates will be in the front group when either a Bpost or a Pokerstars rider attacks? Lets say Nolf and Vanspeybrouck attacks together on the final kilometers, I can't see anyone catching them, meaning the sprint behind will be about minor places.
But this should be wide open, as the profile probably suggests a bunch sprint. When do you, SN, plan on having the race report ready for us? |
|
|
|
beagle |
Posted on 05-11-2011 20:47
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4200
Joined: 06-10-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Nolf most likely can´t compete with Vanspeybrouck on this circuit, profile is too hard. I will be happy with podium + some more TOP10 places with rest of team up to TOP25...maybe my team will finally wake up here?
Manager of Polar in Man-Game
|
|
|
|
viking90 |
Posted on 06-11-2011 07:35
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4032
Joined: 24-01-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Smowz wrote:
I'll go for a Breschel win. (actually my brain says Blythe but surely not Rapha again!)
I can accept that Last year we didnot have anyone worth mentioned in a cobbelrace, so its good too atleast have a chance this year |
|
|
|
SportingNonsense |
Posted on 09-11-2011 15:01
|
Team Manager
Posts: 33046
Joined: 08-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
ember wrote:
But this should be wide open, as the profile probably suggests a bunch sprint. When do you, SN, plan on having the race report ready for us?
Later today hopefully.
|
|
|
|
Heine |
Posted on 09-11-2011 17:42
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4116
Joined: 08-04-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
SportingNonsense wrote:
ember wrote:
But this should be wide open, as the profile probably suggests a bunch sprint. When do you, SN, plan on having the race report ready for us?
Later today hopefully.
Good We need to finish the shit races (Read as: Races I'm not in) :-p
|
|
|
|
roturn |
Posted on 09-11-2011 17:44
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Heine wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
ember wrote:
But this should be wide open, as the profile probably suggests a bunch sprint. When do you, SN, plan on having the race report ready for us?
Later today hopefully.
Good We need to finish the shit races (Read as: Races I'm not in) :-p
Better read as: Where Vantomme is the worst of all leaders. |
|
|
|
roturn |
Posted on 10-11-2011 00:12
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Again???
Ruijgh in Corsica and Vantomme here. My riders seem to have a great form at the moment. Maybe Vantomme can prove most critics wrong and show his full potential this season.
In general a pretty weird race with too less and too easy cobbled sections to make the race very selective. But nevertheless I had more expectations for this race to be dominated by the big classic teams.
Luckily for these teams the next two cobbled classics should be much more selective with all the uphill pavement sections and harder hills. Also the first stage of De Panne seems to be much harder than this classic.
Edited by roturn on 10-11-2011 00:21
|
|
|