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Wich ban should he receive?
Ban? He's innocent! Ban? He's innocent! 44%[67 Votes]
1 year 1 year 14%[21 Votes]
2 years 2 years 43%[66 Votes]
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sam1196
The title says it all.
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doddy13
If he gets banned it should be for 2 years. Thats what they are serving up to everyone else. Why should he be any different?
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
 
Anonymer
Is there even a possibility of a 1 year ban ?
 
doddy13
Anonymer wrote:
Is there even a possibility of a 1 year ban ?


yep.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
 
CrueTrue
Anonymer wrote:
Is there even a possibility of a 1 year ban ?


Colo got a 1 year ban for clenbuterol.
 
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sam1196
doddy13 wrote:
If he gets banned it should be for 2 years. Thats what they are serving up to everyone else. Why should he be any different?


That's also my view of the case.
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kumazan
He should get 2 years. I think he'll get 1, though.
 
sam1196
kumazan wrote:
He should get 2 years. I think he'll get 1, though.


We should already be happy with 1 year, still 2 years would be justice.
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Stijn_vranken
2 damn years just like anyone else
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around

RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
 
cactus-jack
If he is guilty then a lifetime ban would be preferable, however since you can't get that we'll have to hope for 2 years.
 
superider2010
he's innocent like andy schleck
 
sam1196
cactus-jack wrote:
If he is guilty then a lifetime ban would be preferable, however since you can't get that we'll have to hope for 2 years.


You mean you prefer no 2nd chance for dopers?
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owks
Let Say he is ban for 2 years , will the X months of suspension he got from August to ??? (I don't really know when the ban stopped) counts in the 2 years ban ? Or in the 1 year ban ? If that the case the 1 year ban will not last long...
 
Roman
Only option = 2 years. Everybody gets 2 years for doping. So why he should get only 1 year or nothing?
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cactus-jack
sam1196 wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
If he is guilty then a lifetime ban would be preferable, however since you can't get that we'll have to hope for 2 years.


You mean you prefer no 2nd chance for dopers?


Yes, I mean that if they've gone so far as to take dope then I see no reason why they should be given a second chance. What they basicly get is a 2 year training period where they don't have to take time out to compete.
 
superider2010
let's be real
if cactus jack don't want doppers to have second chance
then why he don't scream at danilo di luca?he is a fresh returned doper
ricco it's the most stupid doper
armstrong the most doped rider(in 1999 a urine test show he was doped,ulrich doped 2 times and still couldn't beat armstrong)
but cactus jack it's just anti-contador
and to keep this note
i know contador it's sometimes doped,but andy schleck was the equal of contador on TdF 2010 montains
contador it's strong even when he don't dope,but to win TdF2010 being doped,that means andy schleck it's not innocent
you put both riders in the same problem
 
cactus-jack
superider2010 wrote:
let's be real
if cactus jack don't want doppers to have second chance
then why he don't scream at danilo di luca?he is a fresh returned doper
ricco it's the most stupid doper
armstrong the most doped rider(in 1999 a urine test show he was doped,ulrich doped 2 times and still couldn't beat armstrong)
but cactus jack it's just anti-contador
and to keep this note
i know contador it's sometimes doped,but andy schleck was the equal of contador on TdF 2010 montains
contador it's strong even when he don't dope,but to win TdF2010 being doped,that means andy schleck it's not innocent
you put both riders in the same problem


Okey, from what I could understand from what you wrote you accuse me of simply being against Contador and not caring about other former dopers. There are several key areas where you are way out of line.

First of all; This is a thread about Alberto Contador. It is not a thread about Di Luca, nor is it a thread about Armstrong, Ullrich or someone else for that matter. The other riders have no relevance here, you might aswell start talking about the weather.

Secondly; how come you insinuate that I have been defending riders such as Ullrich and Di Luca? Where are your facts to support this clame? I dare you to show me a single post on this forum where I have even vaguely defended a former doper. Since you mention it, I am not happy at all about Di Luca participating in the Giro, but when in Rome...

Finally; I feel that Armstrong is a heated debate since it's not exactly a clear cut case so I will refrain from mentioning him. However, your argument about Schleck being doped just because he was Contadors equal is just idiotic. That's the same as saying that if I took dope and tried riding against Gilbert he would still beat me, but then he would have had to have been doped. I know my argument here is a bit strecthed, but you catch my drift.

Also; if you are going to come on this forum and start throwing insults left, right and centre, atleast do it with some class instead of just randomly picking topics that have nothing to do with the subject. You are waisting everyones time.
 
sam1196
for me it's like that: No Ban if you've taken nothing illegal. ( logic)

2 year ban even if they only found 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 in your blood .

If you return after 2 years and you dope once again. A life-ban.
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papi_25
sam1196 wrote:
for me it's like that: No Ban if you've taken nothing illegal. ( logic)

2 year ban even if they only found 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 in your blood .

If you return after 2 years and you dope once again. A life-ban.


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superider2010

Okey, from what I could understand from what you wrote you accuse me of simply being against Contador and not caring about other former dopers. There are several key areas where you are way out of line.

First of all; This is a thread about Alberto Contador. It is not a thread about Di Luca, nor is it a thread about Armstrong, Ullrich or someone else for that matter. The other riders have no relevance here, you might aswell start talking about the weather.

Secondly; how come you insinuate that I have been defending riders such as Ullrich and Di Luca? Where are your facts to support this clame? I dare you to show me a single post on this forum where I have even vaguely defended a former doper. Since you mention it, I am not happy at all about Di Luca participating in the Giro, but when in Rome...

Finally; I feel that Armstrong is a heated debate since it's not exactly a clear cut case so I will refrain from mentioning him. However, your argument about Schleck being doped just because he was Contadors equal is just idiotic. That's the same as saying that if I took dope and tried riding against Gilbert he would still beat me, but then he would have had to have been doped. I know my argument here is a bit strecthed, but you catch my drift.

Also; if you are going to come on this forum and start throwing insults left, right and centre, atleast do it with some class instead of just randomly picking topics that have nothing to do with the subject. You are waisting everyones time.


i write about you just 2 lines.it is imposible to insult in right,left,center(or other positions) LOL

if cactus jack don't want doppers to have second chance
then why he don't scream at danilo di luca?he is a fresh returned doper


but cactus jack it's just anti-contador


i wrote something and you understand just 2 words and rest it's your fantasy(something total untrue)
my argument in your opinion it's idiotic(that's an insult)
armstrong weren't caught,but the top 10 tour du france from 1999 to 2005 were caught(dopers).so my opinion it's based on the past facts
armstrong "the clean rider" in battle with pantanni and ulrich(2 monsters climbers who were doped) on TdF2000 Mount Ventoux
https://www.youtub...XPXHK7I1iQ
armstrong sprinted on ventoux almost 60 seconds,no stoping and he had a big speed
an a good example was TdF2007,when rasmussen coulded win TdF
see the battle rasmussen-contador
https://www.youtub...WOhvPcgo50
rasmussen were sacked(he didn't make the test anti doping in spring and he were to suspicios being doped) by his team rabobank,not UCI or officials TdF(if UCI taked the case,rabobank would had 1 year verry bad) ,but if you looked at contador(zone suspicious for me),he attacked in that stage many times and were strong attacks.in that moment all people thinked just rasmussen were doped,but in time lots of secrets are revealed
so in time we can discover if andy was clean or not
but i remain at my ironical opinion,contador it's innocent like andy or andy it's innocent like contador
TdF2010 contador winned on time trial,not montains.he was doped on TdF and couldn't beat andy on montains and you still think andy it's clean and you don't have any suspicion about andy
why?because andy it's your favorite rider?
and you say i'm offtopic in your thread because i don't agree with you and i don't put contador's name in mud like you?
i'm on the side "spectaculous attacks,stages,tours"
i'm crying because you are even anti-me( the most funny guy you ever met)
you shoulded be my fan,now i'm so unhappy,i will kill contador for you
i forgot to praise my self
me+AK47=(not love but )rambo 1,2,3,4,5
Edited by superider2010 on 16-05-2011 02:36
 
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