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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 04-02-2011 23:12
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The team busses have arrived in Germany, all set for the penultimate ProTour stage race of the season - and theres a bit of everything here, so plenty of opportunities for teams to outscore their rivals. Some flat stages, a couple of hilly stages, a mountain stage with the monster of the Rettenbachferner, a time trial, and a team time trial!
Last year's winner Thomas Dekker returns, and a good result here should remove any doubt over Philips' continued ProTour statuts. Plenty of other top riders involved in that particular battle though: Popovych, Pozzovivvo, and Karpets most notably. Efimkin leads Starbucks, while if you are involving Cafe de Colombia in the battle, they have Gomez Marchante.
Also key is the battle for 2nd place. Rogers may or may not struggle for La Gazzetta, and if he doesnt, then we wont be able to rule out Zabriskie either. But Festina have one of the overperformers of the season in Carlos Castano, Vesuvio have Maillot Jaune wearer Rigoberto Uran, and Pearl Adidas call on home favourite, and 2008 winner, Markus Fothen.
Throw Pluchkin, Nibali, Sella, Caruso, Menchov and Pedraza into the mix aswell, and we have quite a contest - plus theres also Auber's Sinkewitz - looking to use home advantage to forge ahead on the hilly stages. The likes of Boasson Hagen are also here for that.
Sprint wise, Roelandts could be key for Carmeuse in the relegation battle. Vanderbiest, Van Stayen, and Lo Cicero are likely to be 3 of the other key players. And then time trials. Aswell as the GC guys, we have a number of top Germans here - Lang, Fiedler, Kittel, Barth, Schadlich etc - who will be a force in both the TTT and ITT. TTT wise, bookies make Festina the early favourites there - but plenty of others will no doubt be in the mix.
Whatever happens, we should have a greater idea at how the various positional battles will play out in the next 9 days of racing.
Spoiler Philips
1. T.Dekker
2. L.Bak
3. S.Cohnen
4. J.Fuglsang
5. E.MartÃnez de Esteban
6. J.Mouris
7. N.Scheunemann
8. M.Tjallingii
Carmeuse
11. J.Popovych
12. J.Camier
13. A.Fenn
14. M.Kneisky
15. J.Roelandts
16. O.Solis
17. J.Suaza
18. W.Van Den Eynde
Team B&O
21. A.Pluchkin
22. M.Christensen
23. A.Grivko
24. E.Hagen
25. N.Keinath
26. D.Klemme
27. R.Kreuziger
28. A.Steensen
Pearl
31. M.Fothen
32. E.Franzoi
33. T.Kangert
34. Y.Offredo
35. J.RodrÃguez
36. B.Samoilev
37. R.Vanderbiest
38. W.Walker
Nespresso
41. V.Karpets
42. H.Aguilar
43. J.Fiedler
44. M.Keizer
45. I.Lo Cicero
46. J.Mendes
47. H.Mottin
48. M.Schär
Energie
51. D.Pozzovivo
52. M.Cunha
53. P.Nicácio
54. J.Rojas Gil
55. J.Tendero
56. G.Veloso
57. A.Vicioso
58. E.Viviani
Domina Vacanze
61. V.Nibali
62. B.Cooke
63. M.Eibegger
64. T.Martin
65. N.Nuyens
66. B.Schröder
67. I.Speirs
68. S.Taberlay
Wikipedia
71. D.Zabriskie
72. B.Caldwell
73. T.Farrar
74. S.Ivars
75. O.Kaisen
76. I.Kovalev
77. C.Meier
78. M.Sprick
Vesuvio
81. R.Úran
82. M.Barth
83. N.Clesen
84. T.Faiers
85. M.Ford
86. B.Gastauer
87. M.Kittel
88. M.Kvasina
Lafarge
91. G.Caruso
92. W.Bonnet
93. A.Laidler
94. D.Menchov
95. H.Rangel
96. L.Sestili
97. F.Taillefour
98. P.Thuaux
Lipton
101. E.Sella
102. T.Bontenackels
103. T.Danielson
104. G.Gazvoda
105. S.Ghisalberti
106. L.Mas
107. F.Matamoros
108. A.Petrie-Armstrong
Festina
111. C.Castaño
112. M.Bernaudeau
113. T.Dees
114. K.Goddaert
115. P.Gretsch
116. A.Madrazo
117. L.Schädlich
118. J.Van Goolen
La Gazzetta
121. M.Rogers
122. J.Agudelo
123. R.Flens
124. M.Maisto
125. M.Santambrogio
126. K.Vandewalle
127. W.Vasquez
128. R.Wielinga
Auber 93
131. P.Sinkewitz
132. L.Boom
133. M.Bouet
134. W.Ford
135. P.Ligthart
136. F.Morizot
137. K.Reus
138. P.Rolland
Benfica
141. J.Van den Broeck
142. F.Colorado
143. M.Krasnoperov
144. M.Lloyd
145. F.Marquez
146. D.Moreno
147. M.Nazaret
148. F.Terciado
Colombia
151. J.Gomez Marchante
152. F.Duarte
153. P.Healion
154. A.Klöden
155. O.Pereiro Sio
156. M.Pinotti
157. W.RodrÃguez Parra
158. A.Tennant
Sony
161. W.Pedraza
162. A.Bazajev
163. J.Danacik
164. F.Johansson
165. S.Lang
166. C.Meyer
167. M.Mortensen
168. V.Renäng
Warner Bros.
171. C.Barredo
172. A.Castro Rodriguez
173. K.De Ketele
174. G.De Winde
175. M.Facci
176. A.Giraldo
177. K.Hulsmans
178. M.Karagobek
Starbucks
181. V.Efimkin
182. K.Fajt
183. R.Jaramillo
184. R.Kiserlovski
185. K.Koren
186. T.Lowe
187. P.Sibila Romero
188. J.Tschopp
Wolfskin
191. F.Mancebo
192. K.De Kort
193. J.Donald
194. P.Martens
195. M.Sieberg
196. J.Van Emden
197. M.Van Stayen
198. B.Vaugrenard
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 04-02-2011 23:15
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Stage 9 is the all fall down stage, I'm looking forwards to it
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 04-02-2011 23:17
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This should be a very entertaining race. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 04-02-2011 23:39
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I'm here for the sprints and nothing else. Hopefully the Sieberg-Van Stayen duo will bring me a stage win.
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| SotD |
Posted on 05-02-2011 15:55
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My team is build to win the TTT. If they don't I don't think I will have any shot at a top 10 GC here...
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| dave92 |
Posted on 05-02-2011 17:47
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should be a great race. I remember considering the crash happy finale in deciding not to send Phinney here. Hopefully Zabriskie stays upright and with the help of a good ttt can crack the top 10
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| untal |
Posted on 05-02-2011 19:36
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High hopes for this one. |
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| SotD |
Posted on 07-02-2011 07:26
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Hmm I would've expected my riders to go in the attack seing that I have no sprinter here...
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 07-02-2011 11:43
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uh, so close. I think it would have been better if Sieberg and Van Stayen would have tried to work together rather than sprinting each for himself.
I have a pretty weak team for the TTT so starting last in the next stage won't make much of difference. My best chance to maintain in the PT top 10 is still a stage win from Van Stayen.
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 07-02-2011 12:49
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My team will be trying to limit losses here. With only a mountain stage Pozzovivo won't be causing much trouble in the GC, especially in a race with almost 100km in TTs. Also he seems to have a negligent behaviour in hilly stages, so he may already be out of the race by the Rettenbachferner.
I hope I'm wrong though 
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| SotD |
Posted on 07-02-2011 13:04
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I'm starting very early so a top 3 in the TTT should be my goal I guess... I really hoped to take a win there though, as it would benefit Castaño a lot in the hills.
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| SotD |
Posted on 07-02-2011 20:02
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Bah that wasn't exactly satisfying, but we kinda knew it would happen when we started that early. I can accept losing to B&O but I think my team is significantly stronger than both Vesuvio and Sony here...
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 07-02-2011 20:10
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| dave92 |
Posted on 07-02-2011 20:19
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poor ttt, need Zabriskie to hang tough then anihilate the individual tt
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 07-02-2011 20:19
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SotD wrote:
Bah that wasn't exactly satisfying, but we kinda knew it would happen when we started that early. I can accept losing to B&O but I think my team is significantly stronger than both Vesuvio and Sony here...
81 (German), 81, 78, 77 (German), 76. You?
Ive always been quietly confident of a strong TTT result here, was very glad they delivered - cant even be dissapointed to lose to B&O either with that sort of margin
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| SotD |
Posted on 07-02-2011 20:51
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SportingNonsense wrote:
SotD wrote:
Bah that wasn't exactly satisfying, but we kinda knew it would happen when we started that early. I can accept losing to B&O but I think my team is significantly stronger than both Vesuvio and Sony here...
81 (German), 81, 78, 77 (German), 76. You?
Ive always been quietly confident of a strong TTT result here, was very glad they delivered - cant even be dissapointed to lose to B&O either with that sort of margin
78 (German), 77 (German), 77, 76, 76, 76, 75, 74, 73... So a very strong overall team. No weak links... I would've expected my 73-74 riders to take back time on the likes of Gastauer and Faiers who both finished in your first group.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 07-02-2011 20:55
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So if we look solely at our 2 teams, I have the best 2 time trialists in Kittel and Uran, and Ford is probably the 3rd best aswell - not always the case, but the Aussie does have 2 ProTour TT wins to his name. The likes of Faiers and Gastauer barely take turns at all anyway, 1-2 seconds max.
Your consistency makes you less likely to do notably bad - and the game did make you favourite afterall, but good form days for my top guys can give me the edge
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| SotD |
Posted on 07-02-2011 21:08
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True... But like I said I thought the consistency would have made the impact. I will need to train my 77 TTers to 79 to next season then :-)
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 07-02-2011 22:00
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I'm really surprised with a top10 in the TTT. Still be holding my breath for the next couple of stages.
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| niconico |
Posted on 08-02-2011 17:00
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Decent start. Good TTT. Hopefully Pluchkin can finish this.
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