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'Down Under' Discussion
SportingNonsense
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Posted on 25-04-2010 22:48
First off is the flat Down Under Classic:
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In 2009, attack after attack prevented a bunch sprint, and Mikhail Khalilov was able to win from Niki Terpstra and Simon Gaywood, but last year we did see a bunch sprint, with Erik Mohs triumphing ahead of Matthew Goss, Peter Kennaugh, Miguel Chacon and Russell Downing.
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This year the Down Under Classic is the most popular of all C1 races, despite being probably the shortest. 18 teams line up, including a number of top sprinters. Cavendish, Kennaugh, Nazon, Vantomme, Hutarovich, Haedo, Vanderaerden, Casper, Bozic, Van Heerden, Awang, Croket, Davis, Chicchi, Westling, Ciolek, Guillen, Mohs, Vaitkus, Brown, Thorsen, Gatto - and no doubt many others.

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We then move on to the HC Tour Down Under.

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Breakaways decided the race in 2008, and as ProTour race in 2009, but last season was different. The sprinters seemed to be doing their best to keep the race under control, with Renshaw, Van Heerden and Gasparotto each winning stages, however the puncheurs also did well Van Garderen winning Stage 2, Astarloa winning Stage 3 - albeit with no time gaps. And on the decisive Willunga stage, it was Aussie Wes Sulzberger who won, and crucially, got a gap - a gap that earned him overall victory.
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So, lets just summarise some of the top sprinters, puncheurs, and Australians who will be on show here.

Sprinters: Cavendish, Vantomme, Hutarovich, Casper, Vanderaerden, Van Heerden, Croket, Davis, Westling, Ciolek, Guillen, Brown, Vaitkus, Impey, Steegmans, Rowe
Puncheurs: Froome, Roche, Bellis, Ben Nasser, Rast, Carrara, Flugel, Bertagnolli, Hermans
Aussies: Sulzberger, Gerrans, Bobridge, Sutton, Hansen, Lloyd

But of course, if we return to a breakaway deciding it, the potential contenders are endless.

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fenian_1234
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Posted on 25-04-2010 23:07
I'm interested to see whether I made the right decision in sending Steegmans to this one. Think he has more chance of staying with the leaders than someone like Cavendish if things get nasty on Stage 4. Then again Cav is much faster in the sprint.

The classic will be a lottery with that many sprinters....
Edited by fenian_1234 on 25-04-2010 23:08
 
Heine
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Posted on 25-04-2010 23:19
I put my trust in the flat stages. I hope a train with Klier / Rafaa (get the team in front) - Te Brake / Guldhammer - Siedler - Brown/Vaitkus - Vaitkus/Brown can net me some good placements. Though it might be the wrong race to waste their race days on looking at the sprinters... My bet is on yet another failrace :-p
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Deadpool
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Posted on 25-04-2010 23:31
Breakaway for the classic, and Rast + Feillu for TDU
 
Levi4life
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Posted on 26-04-2010 00:18
Glad mb isnt in oz
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rjc_43
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Posted on 26-04-2010 00:29
You've just got Wiggle to contend with instead. The Side Kick is raring to go... I think... Cool
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mb2612
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Posted on 26-04-2010 00:42
Levi4life wrote:
Glad mb isnt in oz


yeah, after Bloemfontein I am not racing until San Luis.

I am pretty much only in the mountains this year, along with the hilly classics with flat finishes.
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jack888
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Posted on 26-04-2010 01:53
My teams first race, we are out classed but maybe 1 or 2 top ten stage results is realistic.

It is generally known in Australia that South Africans are better than everyone, so we will use our home ground knowlage to attempt a clean sweep with Impey Wink
 
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Posted on 26-04-2010 07:24
On that basis, Van Heerden is bound to do well again.
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beagle
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Posted on 26-04-2010 09:55
why is not my far best rider set as team leader in Down Under Classic??? I was hoping for building of strong sprint train and now I can imagine to see Mohs as lead-out man for Van Impe Grin
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Heine
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Posted on 26-04-2010 09:59
Van Impe will get a sick leadout then though :-p
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beagle
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Posted on 26-04-2010 10:03
Heine wrote:
Van Impe will get a sick leadout then though :-p


yep, very sick Smile
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mb2612
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Posted on 26-04-2010 10:04
jack888 wrote:
It is generally known in Australia that South Africans are better than everyone, so we will use our home ground knowlage to attempt a clean sweep with Impey Wink


I have waited my whole life for an Australian to finally admit that, thanks. Smile
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jack888
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Posted on 26-04-2010 10:44
mb2612 wrote:
jack888 wrote:
It is generally known in Australia that South Africans are better than everyone, so we will use our home ground knowlage to attempt a clean sweep with Impey Wink


I have waited my whole life for an Australian to finally admit that, thanks. Smile


Np, trust me i have never met a more modest bunch of people in my life Grin
 
SportingNonsense
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Posted on 26-04-2010 10:44
beagle wrote:
why is not my far best rider set as team leader in Down Under Classic??? I was hoping for building of strong sprint train and now I can imagine to see Mohs as lead-out man for Van Impe Grin


The general rule is to ignore the startlist in terms of race leader, it sometimes seems a bit random
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beagle
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Posted on 26-04-2010 14:08
ok, let´s see what will happen...looking forward to your report, competition is really strong here
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arthon
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Posted on 26-04-2010 18:38
Go Hutarovich! Although I'm not sure he'll be able to do something against such a strong sprint field.
Edited by arthon on 26-04-2010 18:40
 
Kami
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Posted on 26-04-2010 18:43
I'm only riding the classic. If it's a break, i got a good chance with Bagdonas joining it. If it's a sprint i'm hoping Nazon will finally get a lead-out by someone.
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niconico
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Posted on 26-04-2010 18:45
Heine wrote:
I put my trust in the flat stages. I hope a train with Klier / Rafaa (get the team in front) - Te Brake / Guldhammer - Siedler - Brown/Vaitkus - Vaitkus/Brown can net me some good placements. Though it might be the wrong race to waste their race days on looking at the sprinters... My bet is on yet another failrace :-p


Yeah looking forward to see how my young prospect does here Smile
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alexkr00
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Posted on 26-04-2010 19:29
Kami wrote:
I'm only riding the classic. If it's a break, i got a good chance with Bagdonas joining it. If it's a sprint i'm hoping Nazon will finally get a lead-out by someone.


why didn't you send Goss here? Pfft

Last year he finished second and he's an Aussie so he would have had a bigger chance to get a high spot
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