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'Down Under' Discussion
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 25-04-2010 22:48
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First off is the flat Down Under Classic:
In 2009, attack after attack prevented a bunch sprint, and Mikhail Khalilov was able to win from Niki Terpstra and Simon Gaywood, but last year we did see a bunch sprint, with Erik Mohs triumphing ahead of Matthew Goss, Peter Kennaugh, Miguel Chacon and Russell Downing.
This year the Down Under Classic is the most popular of all C1 races, despite being probably the shortest. 18 teams line up, including a number of top sprinters. Cavendish, Kennaugh, Nazon, Vantomme, Hutarovich, Haedo, Vanderaerden, Casper, Bozic, Van Heerden, Awang, Croket, Davis, Chicchi, Westling, Ciolek, Guillen, Mohs, Vaitkus, Brown, Thorsen, Gatto - and no doubt many others.
Spoiler Telenor
1. T.Vaitkus
2. G.Brown
3. R.Guldhammer
4. O.Haavardsholm
5. S.Siedler
6. J.Veikkanen
7. N.Østergaard
100Me
11. P.Kennaugh
12. S.Bennett
13. M.Cavendish
14. R.Downing
15. D.Lloyd
16. T.Murray
17. W.Sulzberger
Petronas
21. L.Croket
22. I.Abakoumov
23. A.Awang
24. J.Bobridge
25. R.Feillu
26. W.Jallays
27. K.Lalouette
LEGO
31. G.Ciolek
32. J.Hochmann
33. F.Odebrecht
34. L.Roberts
35. P.Rooijakkers
36. A.Stauff
37. R.Weissinger
HighRoad
41. M.Vantomme
42. K.Boeckmans
43. K.De Weert
44. S.Finning
45. J.Ockeloen
46. J.Stuyven
47. M.Van Aelbroeck
Mercedes
51. E.Baumann
52. A.Brea
53. P.Ghyllebert
54. J.Haedo
55. T.Tolleson
56. E.Weiss
57. T.Zirbel
Quiksilver
61. A.Davis
62. F.Cruz
63. A.Flickinger
64. H.Godfrey
65. M.Griffith
66. S.Scheirlinckx
67. B.Selander
Pendleton's
71. J.Van Heerden
72. C.Abdallah
73. B.Bozic
74. T.Kennaugh
75. M.Ladagnous
76. M.McNally
77. N.Sijmens
Pokerstars
81. K.Van Impe
82. G.Atkins
83. F.Ericsson
84. M.Guillén
85. D.Holloway
86. E.Mohs
87. J.Van Loocke
Falcon
91. F.Chicchi
92. S.Clarke
93. T.Gudsell
94. M.Jamieson
95. T.Larsson
96. G.Tzortzakis
97. C.Van Heerden
Milka
101. J.Casper
102. J.Forero
103. L.Howard
104. A.Malori
105. Y.Nepomnyachsniy
106. R.Porte
107. M.Vanderaerden
Intesa
111. Y.Hutarovich
112. E.Capecchi
113. C.Cucinotta
114. A.Kunitski
115. D.Lelay
116. T.Pinot
117. C.Salerno
Bacardi
121. A.Gajek
122. G.Bagdonas
123. J.Kocjan
124. A.Kruopis
125. A.Kuchinski
126. J.Nazon
127. F.Pacheco
Vespa
131. O.Gatto
132. A.Balloni
133. C.Cassidy
134. T.Cassidy
135. E.Luzi
136. A.Passalacqua
137. M.Scanlon
IKEA
141. D.Kupfernagel
142. S.Balck
143. N.Brolin
144. J.Lindgren
145. I.Stevic
146. M.Velits
147. M.Westling
Tinkoff
151. A.Khatuntsev
152. A.Arekejev
153. V.Kiryenka
154. S.Klimov
155. A.Ovechkin
156. B.Shpilevski
157. Y.Sobal
UBS
161. J.Mora
162. S.Barrio
163. J.Kenny
164. J.Le Bon
165. G.Signorini
166. C.Sinelobov
167. D.Thorsen
EL AL
171. D.Dviri
172. M.Burlutsky
173. D.Eliad
174. S.Haimy
175. N.Hortig
176. N.Margalit
177. I.Shapira
We then move on to the HC Tour Down Under.
Breakaways decided the race in 2008, and as ProTour race in 2009, but last season was different. The sprinters seemed to be doing their best to keep the race under control, with Renshaw, Van Heerden and Gasparotto each winning stages, however the puncheurs also did well Van Garderen winning Stage 2, Astarloa winning Stage 3 - albeit with no time gaps. And on the decisive Willunga stage, it was Aussie Wes Sulzberger who won, and crucially, got a gap - a gap that earned him overall victory.
So, lets just summarise some of the top sprinters, puncheurs, and Australians who will be on show here.
Sprinters: Cavendish, Vantomme, Hutarovich, Casper, Vanderaerden, Van Heerden, Croket, Davis, Westling, Ciolek, Guillen, Brown, Vaitkus, Impey, Steegmans, Rowe
Puncheurs: Froome, Roche, Bellis, Ben Nasser, Rast, Carrara, Flugel, Bertagnolli, Hermans
Aussies: Sulzberger, Gerrans, Bobridge, Sutton, Hansen, Lloyd
But of course, if we return to a breakaway deciding it, the potential contenders are endless.
Spoiler Vespa
1. G.Steegmans
2. A.Balloni
3. P.Bettini
4. T.Cassidy
5. D.Garbelli
6. A.Pagoto
7. A.Passalacqua
8. A.Proni
Telenor
11. T.Vaitkus
12. G.Brown
13. R.Guldhammer
14. O.Haavardsholm
15. A.Klier
16. S.Siedler
17. R.Te Brake
18. J.Veikkanen
Wiggle
21. L.Rowe
22. D.Appollonio
23. L.Bertagnolli
24. D.Cataldo
25. T.Diggle
26. B.Hermans
27. M.Pavarin
28. D.Ratto
Petronas
31. L.Croket
32. I.Abakoumov
33. A.Awang
34. J.Bobridge
35. G.Bole
36. M.Carrara
37. R.Feillu
38. S.Gerrans
LEGO
41. G.Ciolek
42. D.Claeys
43. J.Hochmann
44. F.Odebrecht
45. L.Roberts
46. P.Rooijakkers
47. A.Stauff
48. R.Weissinger
Milka
51. T.Dall'Antonia
52. J.Casper
53. J.Forero
54. L.Howard
55. A.Malori
56. Y.Nepomnyachsniy
57. R.Porte
58. M.Vanderaerden
100Me
61. M.Cavendish
62. S.Bennett
63. C.Froome
64. D.Lloyd
65. D.Martin
66. N.Roche
67. J.Sergent
68. W.Sulzberger
Pokerstars
71. S.Dumoulin
72. J.Engoulvent
73. M.Guillén
74. D.Holloway
75. N.Ingels
76. M.Maaskant
77. A.Saramotins
78. J.Van Loocke
HighRoad
81. M.Vantomme
82. K.Boeckmans
83. K.De Weert
84. S.Finning
85. J.Ockeloen
86. J.Stuyven
87. M.Van Aelbroeck
88. R.Zingle
Quiksilver
91. A.Davis
92. Y.Bru Pascal
93. F.Cruz
94. A.Flickinger
95. H.Godfrey
96. R.Sambris
97. S.Scheirlinckx
98. B.Selander
Red Bull
101. C.Sutton
102. Y.Arashiro
103. J.Augustyn
104. J.Ball
105. A.Hansen
106. M.Matthews
107. A.Semple
108. K.Wu
Pendleton's
111. J.Van Heerden
112. S.Duret
113. T.Kennaugh
114. M.Ladagnous
115. A.Moletta
116. J.Rovira
117. N.Sijmens
118. F.Willems
Yamaha
121. D.Impey
122. J.Clarke
123. D.De Fauw
124. A.Hutchinson
125. R.Janse van Rensburg
126. D.Kairelis
127. F.Montenegro
128. T.Ziegler
Intesa
131. Y.Hutarovich
132. E.Capecchi
133. C.Cucinotta
134. A.Kunitski
135. D.Lelay
136. B.Monterastelli
137. T.Pinot
138. C.Salerno
Cillit Bang
141. M.De Maar
142. J.Bellis
143. H.Ben Nasser
144. J.Coenen
145. M.Eichler
146. V.Hacecký
147. D.Kopp
148. H.Ma
EL AL
151. G.Rast
152. D.Eliad
153. B.Feillu
154. S.Haimy
155. N.Hortig
156. D.Loosli
157. I.Shapira
158. A.Wolff
Benfica
161. B.Lima
162. D.Belda
163. J.Benitez
164. R.Costa
165. V.Gomes Colinas
166. M.Krasnoperov
167. M.Lloyd
168. P.Urtasun
IKEA
171. D.Kupfernagel
172. S.Balck
173. N.Brolin
174. A.Flügel
175. J.Ljungblad
176. L.Lundberg
177. A.Stillfors
178. M.Westling
YouTwit
181. S.Burke
182. TBA
183. L.Kirk
184. T.Last
185. J.McCallum
186. J.McEvoy
187. TBA
188. F.de Romijn
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 25-04-2010 23:07
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I'm interested to see whether I made the right decision in sending Steegmans to this one. Think he has more chance of staying with the leaders than someone like Cavendish if things get nasty on Stage 4. Then again Cav is much faster in the sprint.
The classic will be a lottery with that many sprinters....
Edited by fenian_1234 on 25-04-2010 23:08
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| Heine |
Posted on 25-04-2010 23:19
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I put my trust in the flat stages. I hope a train with Klier / Rafaa (get the team in front) - Te Brake / Guldhammer - Siedler - Brown/Vaitkus - Vaitkus/Brown can net me some good placements. Though it might be the wrong race to waste their race days on looking at the sprinters... My bet is on yet another failrace :-p
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 25-04-2010 23:31
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Breakaway for the classic, and Rast + Feillu for TDU |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 26-04-2010 00:18
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Glad mb isnt in oz
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 26-04-2010 00:29
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You've just got Wiggle to contend with instead. The Side Kick is raring to go... I think... 
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 26-04-2010 00:42
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Levi4life wrote:
Glad mb isnt in oz
yeah, after Bloemfontein I am not racing until San Luis.
I am pretty much only in the mountains this year, along with the hilly classics with flat finishes.
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| jack888 |
Posted on 26-04-2010 01:53
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My teams first race, we are out classed but maybe 1 or 2 top ten stage results is realistic.
It is generally known in Australia that South Africans are better than everyone, so we will use our home ground knowlage to attempt a clean sweep with Impey  |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 26-04-2010 07:24
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On that basis, Van Heerden is bound to do well again.
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| beagle |
Posted on 26-04-2010 09:55
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why is not my far best rider set as team leader in Down Under Classic??? I was hoping for building of strong sprint train and now I can imagine to see Mohs as lead-out man for Van Impe 
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| Heine |
Posted on 26-04-2010 09:59
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Van Impe will get a sick leadout then though :-p
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| beagle |
Posted on 26-04-2010 10:03
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Heine wrote:
Van Impe will get a sick leadout then though :-p
yep, very sick 
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 26-04-2010 10:04
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jack888 wrote:
It is generally known in Australia that South Africans are better than everyone, so we will use our home ground knowlage to attempt a clean sweep with Impey
I have waited my whole life for an Australian to finally admit that, thanks.
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| jack888 |
Posted on 26-04-2010 10:44
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mb2612 wrote:
jack888 wrote:
It is generally known in Australia that South Africans are better than everyone, so we will use our home ground knowlage to attempt a clean sweep with Impey
I have waited my whole life for an Australian to finally admit that, thanks.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 26-04-2010 10:44
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beagle wrote:
why is not my far best rider set as team leader in Down Under Classic??? I was hoping for building of strong sprint train and now I can imagine to see Mohs as lead-out man for Van Impe
The general rule is to ignore the startlist in terms of race leader, it sometimes seems a bit random
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| beagle |
Posted on 26-04-2010 14:08
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ok, let´s see what will happen...looking forward to your report, competition is really strong here
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| arthon |
Posted on 26-04-2010 18:38
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Go Hutarovich! Although I'm not sure he'll be able to do something against such a strong sprint field.
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| Kami |
Posted on 26-04-2010 18:43
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I'm only riding the classic. If it's a break, i got a good chance with Bagdonas joining it. If it's a sprint i'm hoping Nazon will finally get a lead-out by someone.
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| niconico |
Posted on 26-04-2010 18:45
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Heine wrote:
I put my trust in the flat stages. I hope a train with Klier / Rafaa (get the team in front) - Te Brake / Guldhammer - Siedler - Brown/Vaitkus - Vaitkus/Brown can net me some good placements. Though it might be the wrong race to waste their race days on looking at the sprinters... My bet is on yet another failrace :-p
Yeah looking forward to see how my young prospect does here
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 26-04-2010 19:29
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Kami wrote:
I'm only riding the classic. If it's a break, i got a good chance with Bagdonas joining it. If it's a sprint i'm hoping Nazon will finally get a lead-out by someone.
why didn't you send Goss here? 
Last year he finished second and he's an Aussie so he would have had a bigger chance to get a high spot
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