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2014 Tour Down Under (21 to 26 January)
cio93
547984 wrote:
Finally cio should be happy


Did you get the impression I was particularly unhappy? Wink

Haas and Gerro fucked that up. Both went the wrong way around their leadouts, Viviani coming from way too far back, so no surprise Roelandts kept second spot.
Edited by cio93 on 24-01-2014 04:52
 
Luis Leon Sanchez
Viviani went at a pace, if Impey went out later he could have come 3rd cause he was going well just before he moved out of the way for Gerrans.
 
Malkael
Either Diego Ulissi blew up big time somewhere, or we've had transponder issue or something.
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Luis Leon Sanchez
Did Ulissi get caught in the crosswind?
 
Luis Leon Sanchez
I think he was caught in the Crosswind cause in GC everyone moved up one except the top 3 and Ulissi isn't there.
 
Malkael
The intermediate sprint was after the "KoM" point and the split. So he wasn't caught in the initial split and was up there with the Ochre Jersey (Front) group.

Or all the reports of Ulissi getting third at the second intermediate sprint point were totally incorrect.
Edited by Malkael on 24-01-2014 05:01
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Luis Leon Sanchez
Ulissi came 34th on the stage with the same time but he is not currently registered on the procyclingstats GC?
 
Malkael
Provisional results at the moment, so it may take a while for everything to be complete and fully verified. Expect to see it corrected if Ulissi has finished 34th and equal on time.
Edited by Malkael on 24-01-2014 05:05
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Luis Leon Sanchez
It has been corrected, Ulissi now back in 3rd in the GC.
 
Malkael
Stage 4 - Unley to Victor Harbour (148.5 KM)


2014 Santos Tour Down Under - General Classification


Note: At the time of posting these are provisional results and are liable to change.
#GoraEuskadi
 
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Malkael
Stage 5 - McLaren Vale to Willunga Hill (151.5 KM)

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Once again the overall victor of the Santos Tour Down Under will be decided on the slopes of Willunga Hill. With just 14 seconds between current race leader Cadel Evans, of BMC, and third placed Diego Ulissi, of Lampre – Merida, anything could happen yet.

All eyes will be on the battle between Cadel Evans, of BMC, and second placed Simon Gerrans, of Orica – GreenEDGE for the Ochre Jersey. However, the Australian duo cannot afford to take their eyes off the Italy's Diego Ulissi whilst fighting it out for the right to wear the Ochre Jersey.

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After almost winning both intermediate sprints during yesterday's fourth stage, there are once again six bonus seconds up for grabs out on course. Will Orica – GreenEDGE go chasing after the two intermediate sprints for a second consecutive stage?

Claiming four bonus seconds would allow Gerrans to snatch the Ochre Jersey by at least a second if he wins atop Willunga Hill. However, there is a great argument to be had around whether Orica – GreenEDGE and Gerrans should waste valuable energy chasing bonus seconds ahead of Willunga Hill.

Category 1 - Willunga Hill (3 KM @ 7.4%)

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Final Three Kilometres

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The peloton will again climb Willunga Hill twice, with the decisive showdown between Cadel Evans and Simon Gerrans for the Ochre Jersey anticipated to happen during the second, and final, ascent. Usually a climb for explosive Puncheurs, Willunga Hill features an average gradient of 7.4% spread over a distance of three kilometres.

If the old saying that a great offence is a great defence holds true then perhaps Cadel Evans' best strategy could be to put Simon Gerrans under pressure during the first half of Willunga Hill, where some of the highest gradients are. While Ulissi's explosiveness will also be a massive threat on the slopes of Willunga Hill.

After successfully defending his King of the Mountains jersey for yet another stage, the pressure will be on Adam Hansen, of Lotto Belisol, to doggedly stick with the race favourites over Wilunga Hill. With both ascents of Willunga Hill gifting 16 points to the first cyclist across the line, Hansen will need to score points to keep his jersey safe from the likes of Evans, Gerrans, Axel Domont of AG2R Le Mondiale and William Clarke of Drapac Pro Cycling.

Stage Favourites and Dark Horse

Given Simon Gerrans propensity to claim either the stage or overall victory on Willunga Hill, the Victorian will surely head in to Stage 5 as the prime favourite. Whether Gerrans can wrestle the Ochre Jersey off of Cadel Evan's shoulders in the process however is difficult to predict. In its relatively short history as a stage finish victory on Willunga Hill has always been decided by a mano-a-mano sprint.

Second favourite to claim the stage victory on Willunga Hill will, rightly or wrongly, be Cadel Evans. During Willunga Hill's short history as a stage finish the top two of the General Classification have never finished outside of the podium positions, and given Evans' current form it is difficult to see that stopping now. While lacking the explosiveness of Gerrans, that means little if Evans can manage to once again crack Gerrans through sheer intensity and endurance.

I suspect Diego Ulissi will quite likely be a rank outsider for the stage victory for most people. However, he is in my opinion the third favourite to claim the stage victory. Ulissi has an explosive kick suited to Willunga Hill and when on form, as he seems to be currently, he often places well in one day races of similar or harder difficulty when team leader.

A dark horse for today's stage could be Richie Porte, who Team Sky have been constantly attempting to set-up for success in spite of Geraint Thomas better standing in the General Classification. After not quite reaching the lofty heights anticipated prior to the race's beginning, victory on Willunga Hill would allow Porte to conclude on a more positive note.

Epilogue

Could be a tense finale tomorrow in Adelaide if anyone ends up being within nine bonus seconds of winning the Ochre Jersey and race overall. Nine being the number of bonus seconds up for grabs tomorrow via the three intermediate sprints out on course.

Getting Top 3 in the final sprint would be a whole different matter up against the likes of Greipel, Kittel, Viviani and co.
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Luis Leon Sanchez
Gesink will definitwly win the GC unless Evans goes all engine and wins by minutes.
 
Ian Butler
Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:
Gesink will definitwly win the GC unless Evans goes all engine and wins by minutes.


What?
Seriously?
What?
 
I_Mayo
Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:
Gesink will definitwly win the GC unless Evans goes all engine and wins by minutes.


1st, https://www.d-e-f-...-l-y.com/.

2nd, maybe you could tell me something that I... we... REST OF THE WORLD don't know.
Edited by I_Mayo on 24-01-2014 11:36
 
roturn
It`s a pity that the race is during the night as those first stages were obviously great to watch.

Just from the replays and newspapers I see the 4 strongest riders like that:
Evans, Gerrans, Ulissi, Greipel.
Well, those four one stages, so it might be a bit biased. Wink
But Evans looked very strong when attacking and no one was able to follow. So imo he is the top favourite.
Ulissi and Gerrans will be interesting on Willunga Hill when Evans might attack again. His plus is, that he can wait until the others attack.
And Greipel was more or less the only sprinter, who arrived in the top group on 3 stages. So I expect him also doing well in the Adelaide Criterium even though Kittel etc. should be there as well.
For Willunga Hill I think one of the three will take the win.
 
CountArach
Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:
Gesink will definitwly win the GC unless Evans goes all engine and wins by minutes.

Do you perhaps mean Gerrans or have you seriously overestimated both Willunga Hill and Gesink?

EDIT: Hang on, I see what has happened here! You looked at the climb's profile and saw that it was divided a lot and then assumed that each division was 1km like most of those altimetric maps. In reality each one of those divisions is around 250 metres. That would explain why you would think that this is a climb for riders with a big engine.

Correct me if I'm wrong but that is what I think has gone wrong here.
Edited by CountArach on 24-01-2014 11:53
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Matthew21rp
Gerrans will win on old willunga but Evans will keep overall lead
 
TheManxMissile
CountArach wrote:
EDIT: Hang on, I see what has happened here! You looked at the climb's profile and saw that it was divided a lot and then assumed that each division was 1km like most of those altimetric maps. In reality each one of those divisions is around 250 metres. That would explain why you would think that this is a climb for riders with a big engine.

Correct me if I'm wrong but that is what I think has gone wrong here.


The giant black focused "3KM @ 7%" wasn't enough help?
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547984
BMC: We'll take it from here.

Sky: Nah, we'll keep on controlling the race.

Pfft
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Sarah Palin, 08-03-14 (CPAC, on Russian aggression) : "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"

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ShortsNL
Gesink will still win

GOOOOOOOO GESINK!
 
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