God damn it roturn. I've been gone two hours and you STILL haven't made the stages for PCM?
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I like Nibali and he's a good climber. Bet Pellizotti fancies his chances of beating him at the Giro next year though.... If Ricco does work with Sassi, the Giro will probably be beyond him - assuming Vacansoleil get an invite. They're the toxic team of the moment....
As for Basso if he really does decide to skip the Giro, he'll need to start doping properly again to compete with Schleck at the Tour.
fenian_1234 wrote:
I like Nibali and he's a good climber. Bet Pellizotti fancies his chances of beating him at the Giro next year though.... If Ricco does work with Sassi, the Giro will probably be beyond him - assuming Vacansoleil get an invite. They're the toxic team of the moment....
As for Basso if he really does decide to skip the Giro, he'll need to start doping properly again to compete with Schleck at the Tour.
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God damn it .. Routes of 2011 Giro and Tour i think are Monsters..
The Tour?
The Giro is way harder than the Tour. In my opinion the Tour doesn't have a single stage where Ilook at it and think: "Oh, my god! The riders are going to suffer"
The Giro has several stages like that.
The Tour should learn a lot from the Giro when it comes to making entertaining stages.
Edited by ponka00 on 24-10-2010 14:34
The Tour is hard, but the Giro is much much harder.
I don't like the Tour route because of the one single time trail. Two time trails together with that route would be great. Andy Schleck is the biggest favourite for the Tour, enough said.
fenian_1234 wrote:
It's the riders that make a race hard and not the route.
Yeah, but I always take for granted that the riders always do their best. At least in GT's.
Riders attitude is definitely not the same in Giro and Tour. That's why I can live with only 33 km of flat ITT in the Giro (although the awesomeness of the Giro route if you change that MTT with a flat 50 km ITT is beyond any measure) and not in the Tour. That doesn't mean that the riders don't give their best in the Tour too, but just in a less aggressive way, which is a shame.
The Grossglockner stage of next year's Giro has been slightly modified. The stage will be 7km longer, finishing at 2157m instead of 1908m. That means 7 km more of climb, including c. 2km of smooth descent and 5km at 10%.
The Giro's stage finish on the Grossglockner has been extended due to logistical complications with the finishing spot.
This means that instead of the finish being at the end of the really hard part of the climb, it'll have 7 extra kms of crappy 4% inclines to the finish.
(It's this year's Tour of Austria finish)
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That's not the finish being reported. It's supposed to be the Franz Josef's Höhe.
Which might change the Cima Coppi.
Talk about a crappy Cima Coppi.
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Yeah, right. I was confused since the Franz Josefs Höhe ends higher than the altitude reported by la Gazzetta, but the other one didn't match either. I can blame the Austrians for having so much different roads in the same climb, though.
And it's still an interesting stage. If they climb up to Kasereck fast enough, the field will be pretty splitted then, and the last kms in small groups can be quite hard. A shorter Aprica.
Giro is magnificent, I like it very much.
