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Heine vs Claude - The preview battle
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| Heine |
Posted on 21-08-2026 20:42
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Starting with a little teaser, the front page might lie a bit
Edited by Heine on 21-08-2026 20:49
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| Heine |
Posted on 21-08-2026 20:43
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If you want to download the CT newspaper
Edited by Heine on 22-08-2026 16:55
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| Heine |
Posted on 21-08-2026 20:43
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| Heine |
Posted on 21-08-2026 20:43
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| SotD |
Posted on 21-08-2026 21:18
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Pretty cool and fun concept. 
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Posted on 22-08-2026 23:08
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| knockout |
Posted on 21-08-2026 21:26
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So first you are exploiting AI for content and now your own kids? 
The more previews the better but in the end your personal take is still the one im most interested in 
Just to be sure: The expected points ranking is the AI generated formula from last season and the claude ranking is a different AI with a different data set?
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| Heine |
Posted on 21-08-2026 21:35
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knockout wrote:
So first you are exploiting AI for content and now your own kids?
The more previews the better but in the end your personal take is still the one im most interested in
Just to be sure: The expected points ranking is the AI generated formula from last season and the claude ranking is a different AI with a different data set?
2 models yeah.
1 made before the season that is just based on expected points made by a formula from last season. Ive had this formula available during transfers but not really used it. I can give a spoiler that it dosen't really like my own team 
The other is a formula that takes into consideration how different riders scored last season but put quite a lot more emphasis on about 200-250 test races I have uploaded. Considering the reason for these test races has been to test riders I was interested in and considered it will be "based" upon PCT results and PCT fields, so there are some considerable weaknesses both for PT and CT (though there are some C2 and quite a lot of PTHC data in it). Startlists has mostly been last years (though with updated stats) with some changes
The main part is as I wrote me squinting in the database and totally objectively consider different riders and teams. I've also written on it a few teams at a time since the db got uploaded, so riders quite a like can be quite differently ranked just based on when I wrote it (thought the ranking was made before I started writing)
I really hope my own opinions beat pure formulas, and even more important I hope it beats a random ranking from my kids (which I have to get them to do....)
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 22-08-2026 12:18
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I really look forward to you getting beaten by your kids!
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-08-2026 16:20
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*two mid-sized towns were demolished to create the data centres to generate this preview
Better make it worthwhile for us to read! (I know it will be) I'm putting my money on the kids.
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| Heine |
Posted on 22-08-2026 16:50
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TheManxMissile wrote:
*two mid-sized towns were demolished to create the data centres to generate this preview
Better make it worthwhile for us to read! (I know it will be) I'm putting my money on the kids.
At least I just made a newpaper generation program rather than making every page itself (after the first ones...)
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| Heine |
Posted on 22-08-2026 16:57
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I considered doing CT a few teams at a time, but just dropped them all Imageheavy, so if you want you can just download the newspaper here
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| Dane Bramage |
Posted on 22-08-2026 18:43
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Heine's kids > everyone....
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| quadsas |
Posted on 22-08-2026 19:32
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Lutsenko the top dawg you say..
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-08-2026 20:29
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OK, so the Kids are really just going on vibes. Claude is going on, something, idk but it's both logical and insane - which is a perfect summation of LLM AI. The actual Heine written parts are top notch, nice thoughts on all the teams very easy to read and understand.
Definitely a general CT hierarchy shared across previews so far, but as always proof the battle for 5th will be intense, and some surprise is going to be the difference between going up and not.
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| seancoll |
Posted on 22-08-2026 22:19
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Beyond the obligatory thank you's for some high quality content (they're very nice of course), I am simply going to relish in being the only team with Top 5s in all 4 rankings! A top 3 with the kids is a big win for our management, who typically struggles to bring as much whimsy as we try to with the Turtles!
On a statistical note, what were the basis for 1,2,3 stars?
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| Heine |
Posted on 22-08-2026 22:27
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No statistics at all, pure subjective opinion right there and then with pure human randomness
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| knockout |
Posted on 22-08-2026 22:40
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Lovely read!
How were the startlists created for the test runs? The Claude parts felt quite weird to me, particularly when they listed a rider not being used enough as negatives. Also the terrain scores in the Claude part (stuff like "X adds 0,73 GC and positive on two other terrains") feel very unexplained.
On to the positive part: I think the stars overview is really intuitive and very good and i like the presentation of the roster. The Heine analysis is also really nice and a great read! And the ranking prediction itself also looks pretty good - seems like there is a bit of a consensus despite the general opinion that the division is super close..
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