Transfer season is still far ahead of us, but that doesn't mean there's no work being done behind the scenes. One of the things being worked on is the scouting and rating of new talents, which is being done this year by myself with help from jph27 & Nemolito. The goal for this year is again to add a talent from every managers focus regions/nations.
In this thread you can suggest new riders and/or stat adjusting of certain riders. Some things to keep in mind:
General Stuff
With the experience from the previous years we will cut down the number of talents added even more this year. So focus for your suggestions on the (for you and your region) important talents. We try to not add "filler riders" that nobody will sign. Goal is to make every rider useful and signable. BUT this doesnt mean every rider will be a leader, Domestiques are an important part of cycling so every rider will be at least this.
While you are free to suggest any rider you want, it isnt really necessary to suggest really popular riders (e.g. Martinez, Del Toro & co.) most helpful are indeed riders from smaller nations or not so popular ones (as said above if they are worth it).
Young Riders
2003 is the main year of interest, with some 'forgotten' talents from the years before also to be added to the game.
Riders from 2004 could be added too in some individual cases, but it is highly possible be that they are held off for another season. There would need to be a very good reason for a 2004 rider to already be accepted. These will also be limited to progressing only to Level 2 in the 2025 season.
Older Riders
Riders who are free agents, or part of disbanding teams, can have their stats adjusted - even if sometimes it is just in a minor way. Especially talents from the last years are interesting as these can become Talents which are not starting at 1.00 .
Riders who are already declining or near it are mostly off limits. However, in special cases an exception may be made - for example, for riders without a Man-Game "history".
Stat Limits
You can suggest riders with any sort of stats you like. However do not expect any unknown rider to max out above 79/80. The suggested stats will be used as an indicator of the strentghs and talents of a rider. So your stat suggestion is very important for us to know what kind of rider you're talking about, but don't be disappointed if a 79 rated mountain-suggested rider turns out to be 75 in the DB.
Realism
MG doesn't need to be 100% realistic on stats of riders. Real life results are a useful indicator, and many riders will tend to be aligned to that, but they are not a constraint.
This also extends to rider Nationalities. If you want a Tibetan or Tuvaluan you can suggest them, and we will see what we can do to accomodate your teams needs.
As mentioned before, at least one rider from every primary and/or secondary teams nationality will be included among the talents.
Format
The format hasnt changed much from the previous years as seen in the table below. But dont forget also that with the move to PCM 24 we will add the Medium Mountain stat but since this isnt rated individually for now and determined by Hill & Mountain stat you dont need to think much about it. But it would be still nice if you could add it in the table. If you suggest specific stat numbers it is preferred to include Versions of the rider at 4.100 and 1.00.
It is also possible (and personally preffered of me) to suggest riders without stats and just shortly describing their strengths and general potential. For this it would be enough to post name, Nation and Birthdate.
i.e.
Spoiler
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
MM
Hi
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
5382
Areruya
Joseph
71
70
71
71
64
75
73
72
53
70
73
66
57
64
RWA
AF
1
0
15
3
1996
6
5382
Areruya
Joseph
72
79
79
79
65
78
78
79
53
70
80
75
60
65
RWA
AF
4
100
15
3
1996
6
(4.100 via the Climber v1 training)
Links to ProCyclingStats, First Cycling or other Results sites are useful too.
Thanks for Nemo and all the ones who created that thread before, I heavily copied from that.
Only one Paraguayan in the DB, who's not the best rider ever and also getting older. Thought of Jesus as a sprinter, as except for Gaviria there's not really a latin (or south) American one in the DB below 30/31 y/o afaik.
Also only one currently contracted Bolivian in the DB, who is currently 33 y/o, so another option could be nice. Perhaos silethug-ng similar to Wilber Rodriguez, but with good physical stats so he could be a useful domestique.
Aular is still young at 28, but apart from that the other contracted Venezuelans are all 34+ next season. He's been doing ok on every terrain it looks like, so perhaps a fun breakaway rider like Finkler or De La Cruz Chapulin. And this time I'll try to make sure to sign that rider instead of LLS for the third time in a row
It might not be necessary to suggest him, I really want to because I’m waiting for this moment for two years. Lenny Martinez is one of the biggest French talents in some time, having won his first WT race recently (apart from half a dozen victories he already got before). He’s clearly a great climber and probably also a hybrid puncheur, though it needs to be seen if he gets a proper stage racer too.
He’s the second rider I’m waiting for for years and he also needs no real introduction. I’ll give one nonetheless: he’s a puncheur with some climbing skills who also has won quite some races so far.
Macias has had some interesting results, especially this year with 2 top 10 finishes at Gran Camino and 1 at Andalucia. He's also done well in the Malorcan challenges. Overall, looks like a punchy sprinter type who might end up with low 70s across the board IRL.
Simmons is doing very well in 2.2 races for the EF development squad, especially at Tour of Rhodes as well as good results at US u23 and RR. Not sure exactly where his talents are going to lie, but again, he could very well be another all-rounder with low-mid 70s across the board or a punchy cobble sprinter.
For North Americans, guessing I don't have to share much about Del Toro, but he would of course be lovely as well.
I am dreaming of upping Konstantinos Pavlides (Cyprus) and Nikolaos Drakos (Greece) in case those are not signed from their stagiare contracts. In particular the latter was a rider I had huge expectations to in this game. I came with suggestions of their stats last season, and I hope to get something like that.
I have plenty of decent greek flat beasts and timetriallists, but no puncheur worth building on, which is pretty well documented this season with Aimilano Vila scoring 15 points this season and Zisis Soulious scoring 3! Those are my leaders in the hills just for the record.
In case neither gets released I would find it interesting to have a look at these two riders.
Last Name
First Name
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
NAT
CON
POT
Koutounis
Aristeidis
67
72
67
65
71
74
67
54
62
68
69
77
65
GRE
EU
4
Ioannou
Constantinos
69
68
69
68
68
68
69
60
63
71
70
72
69
CYP
EU
4
My preferred dev-path:
Last Name
First Name
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
NAT
CON
POT
Koutounis
Aristeidis
68
80
73
65
72
78
72
54
62
75
76
79
65
GRE
EU
4
Ioannou
Constantinos
70
75
74
75
73
73
76
60
63
72
71
72
75
CYP
EU
4
So a talented greek climber, who's not very versatile, so mostly ideal to keep as a clean climber, and a Agrotis-like cypriotic GC domestique like so many others. Could be a replacement for Ioannidis or Kiriakidis who looked pretty similar before they were trained.
Having had my suggestion to turn Anthon Charmig (1998) into Benoot-type rider rejected last year, I am back again to request some more modest modifications. Charmig is still riding in the professional peloton, having transferred from Uno-X to Astana in 2024. He hasn't ridden in the ManGame since a brief foray with PNS - Mikkeller. Had he been fully developed then he would've made quite a decent climber; with this change he will fill the dearth in Denmark's cobbled domestiques between Andreas Stokbro (1997) and William Blume Levy (2001).
Next on my list is Julius Johansen (1999). When Johansen was added to the database he was coming off the back of a very successful U23 career, so was slotted in as a high potential timetriallist. Unfortunately, he wasn't ever able to evolve into a leader in the professional peloton and is instead currently employed as a rouleur. His only ride in the ManGame was also with PNS - Mikkeller, whose mid-'2022 demise he suffered greatly from. The damage to his development caused by those lost levels has kept him from receiving further investment. It would be great to restore some (but nowhere near all) of that lost potential whilst simultaneously reflecting the path of his actual career.
My next suggestion is something of a late-bloomer. For the majority of his U23 career, Mads Andersen (2000) was limited to the domestic scene. Although he managed to score several victories, it wasn't enough to impress the MG talent scouts, who moulded him into a fairly one-note and underwhelming rouleur. He has subsequently had something of a breakout season in 2024. First he won the Tour of Lithuania | 2.2, securing a solo stage victory along the way. He followed this up by taking a stage win, and 2nd overall, at Dookola Mazowsza | 2.2 off the back of a late attack. Taking thi sin combination with his rather impressive performances in various Belgian 1.1 races, and his 5th in this year's Olympia's Tour | 2.2, I don't think there is any harm in making him a much more well rounded rouleur.
Richard Laizer made history as the first Tanzanian rider taking part in the UCI Road World Championships. Could be fun with a boost, to give him a lap of honor in the ManGame. I suggest +5 in every stat:
ID
Last name
First name
Fl
Mo
Hi
TT
Sta
Res
Rec
Co
Sp
Ac
Fi
Do
Pr
Nat.
Ct.
Lvl
Pot.
6084
Laizer
Richard Laningo
64
50
52
71
61
62
60
62
59
61
63
63
70
TAN
AF
Max
4
6084
Laizer
Richard Laningo
69
55
57
76
66
67
65
67
64
66
68
68
75
TAN
AF
Max
4
Another option I would like, but might not be in spirit of the ManGame, is to add a Tanzanian substitute for Matala Seboka. Here shown with poor base stats except Mo & Do, which should leave Climberv2 as the only viable development path.
ID
Last name
First name
Fl
Mo
Hi
TT
Sta
Res
Rec
Co
Sp
Ac
Fi
Do
Pr
Nat.
Ct.
Lvl
Pot.
-
Seboka
Matwola
62
73
63
54
61
64
70
51
53
65
72
76
54
TAN
AF
1
3
-
Seboka
Matwola
63
80
64
54
65
71
74
51
53
69
76
84
54
TAN
AF
Max
3
My last suggestion from Tanzania for the next season will be 27 year old Boniface Simon Ngwata who seems to be an allrounder who performs best on time trials. He finished 5th in Jubilee in 2024, where Salim Kipkemboi was 3rd a couple of years ago. Track-TT chosen as the last level-up here:
Thanks for the latest suggestions but I wanna point out one thing again. This is the NEW RIDER suggestion thread. It is especially for 2003 riders.
Older ones are exception and only if it makes sense because they recently really started to show off and was just forgotten. I will always priorizize 2003 Talents if there are some for the country (sad news for all I have almost for every country a 2003 talent ).
Also Restats happen if there is a big reason for it. We all had/have some riders in the DB for "our" Nations we feel like way better now IRL (Lipowitz & Steinhauser for myself :'( ) but that just happens, so deal with it as long as they arent totally off.
Also I wanna point out that we plan to reduce new rider additions to reduce "dead riders" in the DB. Means, it will most likely only be 1 or 2 riders for small and only MG specific nations.