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[DECISION] PCM Version for MG 2025 Season
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Fabianski wrote:
Qatar results look OK-ish, just don't get why Samolenkov and Van der Lijke did do so well. And I guess Groves needs some Acc training (even though the aforementioned duo did well without).


Could be a coincidence. I'd reckon that if you re-raced 3 times it would mostly be different riders performing well. As long as the top top sprinters perform well then I'm OK with the sort of randomness between similar type riders. Daily form, lucky positioning etc.

It atleast seems to be somewhat worthwhile to have a sprinter in the new version - although it could seem as if the high FL could count a bit more than previous versions. Would be interesting to put eg. Coquard into the mix aswell as he has a relatively low FL compared to Gaviria. Would also make better evidence as to whether making Farantakis 83SPR would actually be beneficial or not Smile
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seancoll
TTT results exports have been a mess for the entirety of PCM 24

They moved to 4th rider somewhere in PCM 23 due to some issues with intermediate timing and just never made the switch. Will say this does match current UCI timing where most TTTs are taken on 4th rider now since team size is down to 7 everywhere except GTs. Unclear if the AI has changed at all to reflect this (I don't believe so, but can't address that)
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MacC
Isn't the real issue with TTTs the fact that the AI doesn't protect GC leaders ? Do we know if that's addressed at all?
 
AbhishekLFC
MacC wrote:

Isn't the real issue with TTTs the fact that the AI doesn't protect GC leaders ? Do we know if that's addressed at all?

TTTs never protected GC leaders if they are not among the top five TT statted riders in the team, except in PCM 20 (and maybe one or two other versions).
 
Fabianski
Don't know if I can agree with that. I think my team sometimes didn't go all-out (finishing quite clearly below the expected position) just to not drop Errazkin who was our 7th or 8th best TTer.
But if a rider is as bad in TTs as e.g. Démare, I guess the AI thinks it's really not worth waiting.

@UU, seancoll
Can you confirm TTT results are always like this? Just to be sure I don't break the tool when trying to parse this format...
And as said before, there's absolutely no way of ensuring the Top 5 riders of the team get the TTT points. I hope everyone can live with that. Shouldn't be an issue for TTT stages, but awarding some big Copenhagen points to the wrong riders might hurt (given that wages are now somehow coupled to points).
But I guess we'll have to swallow that one if we move to PCM24 - or maybe someone could ask Cyanide to fix their stuff ^^ Can't be that hard to get rankings right tbh...
 
redordead
Or maybe we award ranking points to the top 4 riders, if that's how the game is geared.

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