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New OVL Calculation for 2025 season
roturn
This is an interesting idea and would move the performance wage ratio away from wage only and more towards wage and race day impacted and a bit more dynamic.

Not sure it`s possible to add this for the next season already but it surely is something we might have to look into.

There are couple of questions of course, e.g. riders that haven`t raced at all, e.g. disbands post transfers or new riders coming in as max (despite this is close to 0).
Also this is not 100% ideal for riders that decline age wise, in especially those that turn from 32 to 33 and had a prime season performance, get a lower OVL obviously due to lower stats but then a performance boost, that no longer is realistic to repeat. Basically same each year afterwards as well, so might have to adjust the formula even more to have it restricted to maxed riders and only until age 32 or something.
 
jt1109
roturn wrote:

This is an interesting idea and would move the performance wage ratio away from wage only and more towards wage and race day impacted and a bit more dynamic.

Not sure it`s possible to add this for the next season already but it surely is something we might have to look into.

There are couple of questions of course, e.g. riders that haven`t raced at all, e.g. disbands post transfers or new riders coming in as max (despite this is close to 0).
Also this is not 100% ideal for riders that decline age wise, in especially those that turn from 32 to 33 and had a prime season performance, get a lower OVL obviously due to lower stats but then a performance boost, that no longer is realistic to repeat. Basically same each year afterwards as well, so might have to adjust the formula even more to have it restricted to maxed riders and only until age 32 or something.


Agreed the first two would be harder to work out other than taking an average based on riders of a similar OVL.

With the declining riders would the base of their OVL going down from the stats declining start to balance this out already as they would still be getting an increase?

Another option would be to work out the percentage decrease in OVL, then take that percentage off the pts scored before this is added to the OVL, though not ideal this could work.
 
SotD
The issue here is that you could deliberately reduce wages of riders that way, to wait a season for a push. Unless I misunderstand the performance thing.

It’s pretty easy to manipulate a 1200-1500 points rider into scoring 500 points. If that means a difference of eg. 100K in wages, it might be a problem.
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Fabianski
SotD wrote:

The issue here is that you could deliberately reduce wages of riders that way, to wait a season for a push. Unless I misunderstand the performance thing.

It’s pretty easy to manipulate a 1200-1500 points rider into scoring 500 points. If that means a difference of eg. 100K in wages, it might be a problem.

You can already do that with the performance factor in the wages increasing, given that this is where we seem to be going. If you can afford that as a team manager, why not, could be part of the strategy.
But coupling both the wage AND the OVL to performance isn't great imho. Let's say knockout could make PHL tank so much that the latter suddenly can do two GTs the year after (because Evonik might be able to afford that in terms of points loss), this would be a huge advantage which I'm not sold on.

Coupling performance to wages is fine imho, as long as it doesn't allow extreme cases. But for example, last year Bol was a fine rider for me, so he got a raise. This year he's just bullshit and shouldn't even demand 100k next year (which sadly won't happen), but IRL that's what I'd expect. Low performance, low wage. High performance, high wage. If you really want to save wages by assigning your riders a horrible schedule, up to you - I'm obviously not in a position where I could take that risk, though Pfft (and no, I didn't assign a bad schedule to Bol, on the contrary, so no clue why he's so awful this year ^^)
 
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