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PCM 2008 Divinity V2 Project[Final Fix Released!]
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-10-2008 20:10
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J-R wrote:
Apparently because LG mistyped his name (Isidoro), and he received the stats that should be Mancebo's. Same for Iglesias, except with Jimenez.
Totally absurd that none of our testers noticed this.
Anyways, keep the bugreports coming please, we'll fix them in our updates.
That makes sense 
I like what you did with the "flat" stat for most riders.
EDIT:
also, here's a bug, a flat stage of the "Volta ao Algarve" is set as mountainous.
Edited by issoisso on 07-10-2008 21:18
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| ceky |
Posted on 08-10-2008 08:26
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issoisso wrote:
I like what you did with the "flat" stat for most riders.
what was done with them? |
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| Gutierrez |
Posted on 08-10-2008 19:04
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If people start adding more teams
Every countryman will want to |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 09-10-2008 09:11
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ceky wrote:
issoisso wrote:
I like what you did with the "flat" stat for most riders.
what was done with them?
Most (maybe all) are up in the 70s.
A good idea I think too. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 09-10-2008 09:56
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Belgian classics specialists from small teams up in the high 70s and 80s, etc. |
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 10-10-2008 10:25
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Wouldn't want to be nagging but some riders just seem a bit off:
Rein Taaramäe is stronger than Tanel Kangert(he won tour de avenir tt, don't know if i got the name right,i mean the French u-23 race)
Below are the Estonians orignal skills + my recomendations;
Kangert:(quite ok)
fl 75
mo 71(72)
hil 67(69)
dh 66
tt 75(Estonian champion)
cob 53
res 70
rec 72
ftr 65
sta 70
spr 61(55 he has a really bad sprint)
acc 72
Taaramäe:(He's quite like Kangert, a bit better in tt, actally the best tt-er of his age)
fl 73(75)
mo 63(72 as i said like Kangert)
hil 69
dh 71
tt 77(75 top 10 in tour de romandie tt)
cob 54
res 70
rec 67(70)
ftr 67
sta 68(70)
spr 63(55 no sprint like Kangert)
acc 69
Mandri:(He's like a weaker Bettini, only maybe better mountain skill. Ha did really good in 2007 Vuelta despite being the helper on most stages, he got 2*top6 in stages he was allowed to ride for himself. This season was a failure, he mist most of the season due to numerous falls)
fl 73(75 he's a punchy sprinter with ok mountain stat)
mo 70
hil 68(74)
dh 62
tt 67(60 he's not a tt-er)
cob 62(60? not sure)
res 68
rec 69(72 top 20 in 2007 Vuelta)
ftr 63
sta 68(72)
spr 72(74 2*top6 in 2007 Vuelta)
acc 70
Edited by Bosskardo on 10-10-2008 10:27
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Posted on 23-11-2024 21:38
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| ruben |
Posted on 10-10-2008 10:44
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Lol, 75 and 77 TT for Kangert and Taaramae, that's a major overrating. |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 10-10-2008 13:39
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please don't judge the stats of riders, judge the results, as the stats rely on systems you might not understand - Have fun!
I know this may be sacrilige to some - but I don't care that much about the stats.
LG said the above quote when publishing the DB, and so far the results of the races are looking pretty good.... |
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 10-10-2008 14:18
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Ruben wrote:
Lol, 75 and 77 TT for Kangert and Taaramae, that's a major overrating.
Only if Hagen too is overrated
And sorry others, just most db makers don't know a lot about Estonians and Taaramäe was way off.
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| Halvor |
Posted on 10-10-2008 15:03
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Hushovd 65 DH!!!! He deserves 77 or more! |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 10-10-2008 15:08
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You're Norwegian and is therefore not allowed to say anything. Besides, if you don't like it, change it yourself ,) |
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| Johan92 |
Posted on 10-10-2008 15:09
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Its a fact that i deserves more than 65 in DH.
www.pcmnorge.no
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| Lefsa |
Posted on 10-10-2008 16:12
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Has Hushovd 65 in DH!?!?!?
That's just silly!
What are the stats of Boasson Hagen? |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 10-10-2008 16:29
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Talking about stats is silly. They're so easy to edit.
It's a good job no-one has posted Lance Armstrong's stats yet - those I had to pull down a lot.... |
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| J-R |
Posted on 10-10-2008 19:42
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Hushovd is a mistake, indeed.
Of course, you are allowed to mention this kind of things.
The only thing we want to avoid is people saying "Why is Perez Cuapio a beter climber than Devolder? Or Mosquera needs a point more for climbing!"
Thanks for the update on the Estonians as well, I'll look into them asap, especially the information about the always-difficult sprintstat is helpful |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 11-10-2008 09:52
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Taaramae 75TT? Does that mean that Svein Tuft is worthy of getting 83TT?
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-10-2008 20:19
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Most of the stats are way too high and it doesn't seem to work well at all.
However, the flat stats being so high works well with breakaways. many more of them seem to make it. Which is good because with most DBs, hardly any breaks have a chance.
However, there's a few bugs. Like them obviously having taken the original pre-patch cyanide DB to build this, which results in the stages being set in the DB as they were before the patch brought updated xmls...meaning some flat stages are set as mountain, some road races as time trials (183km TTs FTW!), etc.
Also, riders with switched stats (Filipe Cardoso with Manuel Cardoso for example), just generally weird stats (for example a climber like David Livramento having 51 mountain and 50-something hills), common mistakes that are found in a lot of DBs (like Ruben Plaza being a very good time triallist) and just general random mistakes ("Xacobeo" misspelled, M. Zberg set as swiss national champion, etc.)
Edited by issoisso on 11-10-2008 20:38
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| J-R |
Posted on 11-10-2008 20:55
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Well, Ruben Plaza IS a very good time triallist..
I don't have a clue about Livramento though, dewielersite has absolutely no results from him... I'll note him down and check him on Cyclingbase.
EDIT: Cyclingbase has nothing on him either...
Which means I have no clue whatsoever about his capabilities.
Edited by J-R on 11-10-2008 20:57
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| Crommy |
Posted on 11-10-2008 21:03
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Livramento:
https://cyclingnew...pmoveis081
https://www.cyclin...ulgaria081
https://www.cyclin...ortugal080
https://www.cyclin...lentejo081
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-10-2008 21:19
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J-R wrote:
Well, Ruben Plaza IS a very good time triallist..
I don't have a clue about Livramento though, dewielersite has absolutely no results from him... I'll note him down and check him on Cyclingbase.
EDIT: Cyclingbase has nothing on him either...
Which means I have no clue whatsoever about his capabilities.
Not really. name one outstanding result by Plaza 
Edited by issoisso on 11-10-2008 21:19
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