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[PCT/CT] C1/C2 Race Selections 2024 + Wildcards
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| roturn |
Posted on 26-08-2024 11:14
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Here is the file that will be used to select C1/C2 races, as well as HC for CT teams.
PCT: https://pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/F...ionPCT.xls
CT: https://pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/F...tionCT.xls
PCT Wildcard Selection: https://pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/F...ection.xls
PCT teams have a total of 163 race days, including their and PTHC race days.
CT teams have a total of 140 race days.
So PCT teams first need to select the PTHC and HC bands as seen in the announcement threads and then start to use the remaining race days in C1 and C2.
Same for CT teams, which though can use the 140 race days in C1 and C2 but also in HC races (not bands).
PCT teams will be required to sign up to at least 8 C2 race days, which is 2 more than last season.. The restrictions on riders they can enter into C2 races are as following: It will be a maximum OVL of 74.49, with stat restrictions on Cobbles and TT/PRL having a max of 76 in any of those categories in races that feature this terrain.
To select a race, put a '1' in the bordered box by each race. (Columns E, L, S, Z)
- PCT teams must put a 1 by all races in each of their six bands of the revealed HC bands.
- PCT teams must put a 1 in the box by the name of their three PTHC bands.
Priorities
There is a Priorities column for each race category, which becomes very important this year. (Columns F, M, T), which is necessary, because you will not be guaranteed entry into every race you want to ride - due to the limit of 24 teams per race.
PCT teams receive prioritised entry into C1 races by default.
CT teams receive prioritised entry into C2 races by default.
This effectively means you have guaranteed entry into those races.
PCT teams: You need to put a priority marker next to every C2 race you wish to enter. Put "P1" by your top priority race, "P2" by your next priority, and so on. With the amount of CT teams this year, please give enough priorities for C2 as many races will be quickly oversubscribed.
CT teams: You need to put a priority marker next to every C1 and HC race you wish to enter. Put "P1" by your top priority race, "P2" by your next priority, and so on. Again, pleae give quite a few priorities there.
All teams should then include at least eight additional NX priority markers "N1", "N2", "N3", "N4", ... next to races you have not signed up for in your initial selection. These represent your back-up races, in case you do not receive entry to your initial selections. They can be in any category, although for PCT teams, they should only be necessary for C2 races. This will help to quicken the race assignment process, although in each case, you will be asked to confirm you are happy with the proposed change - and have the opportunity to change your mind.
It may be that eight extra races are not enough. In that case, we will follow up for additional choices. However, note that for any additional races, you will no longer receive prioritised entry into your main divisional races over teams from the other division. Feel free to send in a longer backup list to speed things up.
Without a C2HC division anymore, the amount of races freely selected by CT teams is bigger. IF you fail to send a priority and backup list, you very likely will miss some of your aimed races, which makes this list very important!
Example of how this works:
Spoiler CT team.
They choose their 140 RDs wherever, and by the C1 races they pick, they put P1 next to the one they want the most; then P2; then P3, etc for however many C1 races they went for.
Then they have 8 NX choices. These need to go by races they haven't selected.
So lets say e.g.:
N1 for Tour de Romandie
N2 for GP Lugano
N3 for Hanko Classic
N4 for Tour of Britain
N5 for Volta a Catalunya
N6
N7
N8
If you fail to add priorities to your file, you are more likely to lose out on your aimed races!
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Scenarios:
1) They wanted to be in Celtic Chrono, but it was full. Two CT teams wanted in, the other team gave it P1, this one only gave it P7 - so will lose out. We can't give them top choice Romandie as that is 6 RD, so we give them a space in GP Wallonie instead.
2) They are rejected from 6 C1 RD. We give them Romandie, which isn't full.
3) They are rejected from 6 C1 RD, but Romandie is also full. We give them GP Lugano and Hanko. Hanko was full, but we kick out a PCT team. The CT team still needs 2 more RD to fill, and no other options, so we need to ask them.
They say they want Roma Maxima. But this is also full, and as it wasn't in their 8 NX choices, we will no longer kick out a PCT team, they need to pick something else.
Keep in mind that while the Tour of America is C1 rated, it will be given HC point scale!
Submission is uploading the file to your Dropbox folder and PMing ManGame-Admin (https://pcmdaily.com/profile.php?lookup=51454) to say your C1/C2 choices are done. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 29-08-2024 08:32
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A quick reminder for PCT / CT teams that this is needed soon to send out planners afterwards.
Also keep in mind, PCT need 8 RD in C2 !
Priority lists for both divisions highly needed if you want to improve chances on your most wanted races of the other division. |
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-08-2024 11:05
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There isn't a whole lot of information of wildcards.
How is the decider?
Will we get the money back if we don't receive wildcards?
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| roturn |
Posted on 29-08-2024 11:59
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You get money back if you don`t get them yes.
There is simply no real "rules" for it as it changes year to year depending on how many teams want a wildcard.
Usually I try to make it as fair for all teams, so that managers buying same kind of wildcards, always get similar or ideally same amount of races. (No. of racedays might have impact as well but not working always, in especially if too many similar priority lists appear).
Easiest it`s to say for GTs. Managers who never had a GT yet, are most likely or guaranteed to get a GT if asked for. Managers that had plenty might be last on the list if there is more than 6 managers asking for one.
Some years it`s less, some it`s more than 6 up to 9 or so in the past. You just never know really.
And when it`s close, it`s also checked which manager had the last GT, e.g. up and down promotion/relegation teams, who had a 1-2 year break of GTs beat someone who just had a GT last year and so on. |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 29-08-2024 15:10
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roturn wrote:
Priority lists for both divisions highly needed if you want to improve chances on your most wanted races of the other division.
That means for all planners received before the deadline on saturday right? Or will sending them in earlier result in higher priority?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| roturn |
Posted on 29-08-2024 17:26
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No higher priority for early sending. |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 01-09-2024 18:30
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Could mr. ManGame-Admin check his PM's please? 
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| roturn |
Posted on 01-09-2024 18:39
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Questions please always to me directly. Then I see a lot earlier.
Mangame-Admin account is only checked when I have time on desktop. Never from mobile.
But have answered now.  |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 01-09-2024 18:49
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roturn wrote:
Questions please always to me directly. Then I see a lot earlier.
Mangame-Admin account is only checked when I have time on desktop. Never from mobile.
But have answered now.
Well I also sent one to you yesterday, so I was running out of options  But thanks for the reply now!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| roturn |
Posted on 01-09-2024 18:59
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Ollfardh wrote:
roturn wrote:
Questions please always to me directly. Then I see a lot earlier.
Mangame-Admin account is only checked when I have time on desktop. Never from mobile.
But have answered now.
Well I also sent one to you yesterday, so I was running out of options But thanks for the reply now!
Now you win big time.
Indeed there is a mail, it was marked as "read". So I guess I picked it up on the mobile but never read it in fact. No idea really if I didn`t read it unwanted or if it happened during the slow time of the board.
Anyway, definitely my fault then! |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 01-09-2024 19:03
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roturn wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
roturn wrote:
Questions please always to me directly. Then I see a lot earlier.
Mangame-Admin account is only checked when I have time on desktop. Never from mobile.
But have answered now.
Well I also sent one to you yesterday, so I was running out of options But thanks for the reply now!
Now you win big time.
Indeed there is a mail, it was marked as "read". So I guess I picked it up on the mobile but never read it in fact. No idea really if I didn`t read it unwanted or if it happened during the slow time of the board.
Anyway, definitely my fault then!
All good! xoxo
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| roturn |
Posted on 04-09-2024 11:31
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Only for PCT managers:
IF you don`t ask for any PT/GTM wildcards, please write a quick PM to Mangame-Admin with Wildcards No in the PM title.
IF you ask for wildcards. Then please PM with Wildcards YES in PM title and upload them to your dropbox.
Edited by roturn on 04-09-2024 11:43
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| roturn |
Posted on 05-09-2024 12:32
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PT wildcards for PCT update:
8/24 teams only did their Wildcard YES/NO PM.
Deadline to do so is transfer end. So basically when your transfer sheet as also wildcard sheet should be uploaded and finalized to dropbox anyway.
I will start working on wildcards then and in case you couldn`t provide information by then, you might miss out fully or at least the priorities. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 06-09-2024 07:50
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Up to 14/24 PCT teams now with a PM.
IF you go for a wildcard, please also think about uploading the Wildcard Selection file to your dropbox. |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 06-09-2024 09:05
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I might have a last minute deal on the table so will send asap after this is decided.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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