[PT22] Los Pollos - Adios PT
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redordead |
Posted on 30-08-2022 07:47
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This looks like a squad I would build a few years go, no depth
But the leaders are all range from very good to solid so it should keep you above water I guess
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jaxika |
Posted on 30-08-2022 10:07
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For me this is a brilliant work as a first year PT. It seems you are prepared well for both of staying up or relegating... |
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liefwarrior |
Posted on 30-08-2022 11:20
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I'm loving the squad you've built this season. Although there is a total derth of depth there are leaders for almost every terrain! Even if one of them staggers, so long as the rest are alright you have every chance of staying up. And, even better, even if you do drop down you have a gazillion talents getting ready to send you straight back up.
The terrains where I feel you are missing riders are the more difficult hilly-cobbled classics (given Zepuntke's awful mountaineering), cobbled-TTs (although who has riders for them anyway), and hilly stageraces. Kelderman isn't a good enough TTist to survive against the clock and I fear that Keizer won't be able to follow the myriad attacks which always occur. The final issue is the TTTs, where surely grabbing a handful of low-70s TT guys would've been worth it?
Overall a mighty impressive squad!
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Nemolito |
Posted on 31-08-2022 09:22
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@abhi: Thanks for the nice words. Although I expect no wonders of Kelderman, hopefully he does perform a bit more like his stats suggest than he did at you. I do like Munoz, but also don't expect too many amazing things from him either. He'll hopefully have his fun in GT, and winning just one stage would already be a big success for the team.
@Fab: Except for the triple clash I'm all set Needed to level up many talents who on their turn had many racedays, so except for a bit of a headache it went quite easily. Even a top-10 GT finish should be very hard I reckon, but with the right breakaway(s) Munoz might get close somewhere. With Manninen, Sütterlin and Kelderman (together with second sprinter Abdul Halil) also going to GT's I hope we can still score some points and perhaps win several stages there. Depth at the moment is indeed terrible, but should indeed be getting better as of next years when the 50k domestique talents start maxing Relegation is likely, and removing Keizer from the team gets us the same team around 2,5 million wage.
@C14: I agree some attackers like a Bernas or Pidcock wouldn't have hurt, but on the other hand I do hope we can score with the guys mentioned above in GT's as well. Problem is it won't be easy for our team to control a breakaway for guys like Kelderman or Manninen, so we'd need other teams helping us.
@SotD: Thanks for the nice words. Hope you are right about relegation not being an option, but we'd really need all of our leaders to perform then. Zepuntke is a very special rider, and although he has had some terrible performances last season on pcm 2020, we hope races like Paris - Roubaix are actually more his thing. It's nice to have so many youngsters on the squad, although of course three are not 'ours' and four of them very likely won't be renewed as stags. Fun to be able to level up two stags through Avenir though, could be interesting for other teams to pick them up next season instead of being forgotten in the MG DB for ever.
@MacC: Hehe, thanks. Also didn't expect anything to happen after closing the Zepuntke deal, but when life gives you lemons...
@red: Well, you have never relegated. So I'll take it as a compliment
@jaxika: That was indeed the plan. Thanks for the nice words.
@lief: I hope you're right about the staying up part, but indeed even if I don't I'm liking the look of next season in PCT already. Zepuntke won't be scoring many points in hilly cobbled races, true, but since I don't have any cobbled racedays except for the mandatory ones and his salary being so low I'm fine with that. Kelderman won't be attending hilly stage races with time trials anyway by the way, as I am considering those more of a Keizer-terrain. TTT with four strong guys and then level 2/3's is also not usual, I know. But hopefully they can more or less make it work
Ladies and gentlemen, apples and pears. We have found the budget for some massive training. Most people would have opted for a +1 mountain for Zmorka, but we decided we should listen to our heart instead of our brain. We would hereby like to congratulate Ruben Zepuntke on a succesful off-season mountain training. Apart from winning Paris - Roubaix he immediately becomes a top contender in Ronde van Vlaanderen as well.
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cunego59 |
Posted on 31-08-2022 10:13
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You know, I really was unsure about Zepuntkes viability on this level. But that's before I knew you had these wild plans for him. Now ... damn, who is Wisniowski, or Pedersen? No one. The sky's the limit for Ruben!
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Marcovdw |
Posted on 31-08-2022 10:23
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A good thing I didn't go for those wildcards then
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jandal7 |
Posted on 31-08-2022 12:36
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Don't like the Zepuntke meme from you and Marco, just want to be able to genuinely hate him without the jokes about how you know he's bad WHY DID YOU SIGN HIM THEN AAAAAAHHH
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Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 31-08-2022 13:06
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That was definitely an active transfer season from you! It's really a question mark on performance I guess. If Manninen and Zmorka continue their superlative efforts I guess you'll be fine. But you'll be hoping for the opposite from Zepunkte and Kelderman. I'm not sure about Keizer but he could still prove to be a very competitive pointscorer at this level with that TT stat.
Good luck! I guess we'll be fighting a similar battle this year.
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Nemolito |
Posted on 01-09-2022 11:00
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Well, when we ended our renewals we had four national champions, and that did not change throughout the whole transfer period. Still, we would like to present hillis' great work and give a little shout-out to our nc's as well. So here we go.
Mexico - Jose Gerardo Ulloa - Road NC The most important one. Our first Mexican title came from our beloved first talent ever, Ulloa. He'll be able to wear it on the legendary cobbles of Paris - Roubaix and Ronde Van Vlaanderen this season, as he is on his way to maxing out. Hopefully the jersey gives him wings, as he is Zepuntke's only domestique.
Ukraine - Marlen Zmorka - Double NC The most impressive one. The time trial itself wasn't the hardest obviously, but Zmorka annihilated like 20 Popo4Ever riders in the Ukrainian road race all by himself. Hopefully he can deliver us several top 3's in it.
Peru - Robinson Steven Ruiz - Double NC The most repetitive one. For the second year in a row Ruiz had a rather easy job 'winning' the Peruvian title. Won't be as easy this year with Quispe and Gonzales at Colombini. We hope Ruiz can improve his lead-out qualities even more this year, as he will also be maxing out. Wherever Manninen is, you'll find Robinson as well.
Honduras - Luis Enrique Lopez Nolasco - Double NC The most lazy one. Luis Enrique didn't need to do anything to win two titles in his first year as a pro, simply because he is the only rider from Honduras. With the right planning we should get him enough experience this year for him to max out easily next year in PCT as well. He is the second best mountain domestique we have, so most of the time he should be around Munoz and Keizer.
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AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 01-09-2022 11:05
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Squares and rectangles are the way to go!
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redordead |
Posted on 01-09-2022 11:42
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More 'Windows' shirts
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Nemolito |
Posted on 02-09-2022 09:25
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Galapagos, a Belgian - Dutch biotechnology company, joined us last year when we were looking for extra money after promoting to PCT. Although they definitely loved being in the picture several times with national champions like Maksimov and Manarelli sprinting to victory, they were not completely satisfied.
They felt likt the lack of Belgian and Dutch riders was, well, disappointing. We agreed to a deal where they would pump more money in the team, as long as we signed at least three regional riders for them this year. We are glad to announce we succeeded in doing so. Let's have a look at our Dutch armada of the 2022 season. Nat. | Name | FL | MO | HI | TT | ST | RS | RC | CB | SP | AC | FG | DH | PR | Age | | Wilco Kelderman | 70 | 71 | 82 | 70 | 80 | 75 | 73 | 62 | 67 | 72 | 77 | 71 | 70 | 31 | | Martijn Keizer | 70 | 79 | 69 | 79 | 72 | 76 | 74 | 57 | 55 | 70 | 70 | 59 | 79 | 34 | | Joris Nieuwenhuis | 75 | 64 | 69 | 60 | 69 | 73 | 65 | 70 | 73 | 75 | 62 | 76 | 60 | 26 | | Daan Hoole | 67 | 68 | 66 | 68 | 68 | 72 | 66 | 68 | 68 | 68 | 69 | 69 | 65 | 23 | | Rick Pluimers | 68 | 60 | 66 | 60 | 70 | 73 | 64 | 64 | 67 | 65 | 69 | 62 | 63 | 22 |
First of all is of course puncheur Kelderman. He was reeled in for a LPH record fee of € 750,000. We don't expect him to rock PT, but several top 10's in classics/stage races should be a realistic goal. If we go down to PCT, he should be nice points per wage value with his 400k wage. Sources close to the team management suggest he might go to a GT. Keizer can be very good, but can also be very disappointing, definitely when looking at the massive TT training in the division. Sources close to the team management suggest Keizer might also go to a GT.
Nieuwenhuis is a Puma loanee, and there are actually many sources close to team management suggesting he might go to a GT to be able to max out as well. He is actually our third or fourth best cobble rider, so he'll return to Puma with 1/8th of a Paris-Roubaix win in his pockets.
Hoole has been dubbed the mini-version of Van Baarle and is our first Dutch talent ever, so definitely something special. He immediately becomes an important asset in our TTT setup as well as our cobbled team, which says more about us than about him to be fair.
Pluimers is a stagiaire with a chance of actually earning himself a contract next year, as he could max out at 76 flat with 80 resistance.
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jandal7 |
Posted on 02-09-2022 09:37
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Nice Dutch contingent you have going. Keizer delivering some great rides would be awesome, and will always celebrate the moments Kelderman pulls it all together and hope he gives you some of those
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Marcovdw |
Posted on 02-09-2022 09:49
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Zoldervrouw is good but not as good as Zepuntke obviously. Five nice bottle carriers for him!
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Nemolito |
Posted on 04-09-2022 12:48
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As written earlier, we have done what we needed to make our Dutch sponsor happy. However, we did feel like we could do more for Mexican cycling as well, with the nation being our first regional focus. In general the team has been doing well since the first transfer season by always getting several Latin American (talents) on the squad, but with only one Mexican on the roster a change was needed. Not just for our sponsor, but for Mexican cycling in general. Let's have a look at the Mexican maxed riders currently in MG. Nat. | Name | FL | MO | HI | TT | ST | RS | RC | CB | SP | AC | FG | DH | PR | Age | | Flavio De Luna | 67 | 74 | 71 | 75 | 67 | 72 | 70 | 66 | 56 | 68 | 66 | 67 | 74 | 32 | | Luis Enrique Lemus Davila | 70 | 77 | 72 | 72 | 75 | 70 | 68 | 56 | 57 | 62 | 71 | 72 | 72 | 30 | | Ignacio Jesus Prado | 72 | 77 | 73 | 74 | 73 | 73 | 75 | 61 | 64 | 70 | 72 | 70 | 78 | 29 |
Indeed. That's it. Only three riders. De Luna for BWT Hyundai, Lemus Davila for Minions - Subwoolfer and Prado for Moser - Sygic. All nice riders, decent climbers and good against the clock. Nevertheless, in addition to our level 4 cobbler Ulloa, it's not a lot. With Prado very close to declining and the other two also having maxed some seasons ago, things did not look very bright for Mexico as a cycling nation.
In our first season we contracted the Mexican cobbler, who will be maxing out this season. In addition to that, we suggested three more Mexicans at the end of last season, and all of them succeeded in getting a contract for the 2023 season. Let's take a look at the Mexicans who are currently developing. Nat. | Name | FL | MO | HI | TT | ST | RS | RC | CB | SP | AC | FG | DH | PR | Age | | Jose Gerardo Ulloa | 71 | 66 | 70 | 63 | 71 | 71 | 70 | 75 | 67 | 68 | 68 | 64 | 64 | 26 | | Jose Gerardo Ulloa | 72 | 66 | 71 | 63 | 72 | 72 | 71 | 77 | 67 | 68 | 69 | 64 | 64 | 27 | | Jose Pablo Aguilar Mendez | 68 | 54 | 55 | 69 | 66 | 66 | 65 | 51 | 62 | 68 | 63 | 65 | 69 | 22 | | Jose Pablo Aguilar Mendez | 75 | 55 | 58 | 78 | 71 | 73 | 72 | 51 | 62 | 68 | 68 | 66 | 78 | 25 | | Oscar Samuel Galvan Ramirez | 71 | 69 | 67 | 68 | 67 | 69 | 67 | 50 | 64 | 66 | 69 | 69 | 69 | 22 | | Oscar Samuel Galvan Ramirez | 72 | 76 | 72 | 75 | 72 | 74 | 74 | 50 | 64 | 67 | 70 | 69 | 76 | 25 | | Luis Fernando De La Cruz Chapulin | 67 | 65 | 69 | 60 | 70 | 72 | 68 | 64 | 67 | 71 | 71 | 67 | 65 | 22 | | Luis Fernando De La Cruz Chapulin | 70 | 68 | 77 | 61 | 77 | 76 | 71 | 64 | 68 | 76 | 76 | 68 | 66 | 25 |
We immediately see that the nation will have several types of riders in three years. As mentioned before, Ulloa will be tha nation's star cobbler. Aguilar Mendez and Galvan Ramirez have both been contracted by Los Pollos Hermanos, with the former being a pure time trialist and the latter being a 'classic Mexican', decent in the mountains and with a nice time trial as well. We are very happy to see De La Cruz Chapulin getting a contract as well at Zara - Irizar, where he could develop into a fun breakaway puncheur with a good kick and nice energy stats. The future started looking a bit brighter for Mexico as a cycling nation, and we hope some more nice domestiques or even CT leaders can come out of the country in the coming years.
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Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 04-09-2022 15:07
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I guess you needed to focus on that talent development after neglecting the sponsors in the ToA last year.
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AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 05-09-2022 08:12
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The Dutch focus is picking up steam in its first year itself while I commend your dedication to Mexico. Glad to have Oscar on board and taking his first development steps with us
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Nemolito |
Posted on 05-09-2022 10:47
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@U.U.: The sponsor understood skipping the Tour of America when not having the right riders for it and knowing it could make the difference between promoting to PT or not, where I could help even more in making Mexican cycling great again Definitely loved the route and loved to report on it, and hope to be able to report it again this season, with McCormick there as well of course.
@Abhishek: I am very glad that Oscar went to your team as well, and already look forward to having him back at lvl 3 next season. Hope he can do some nice domestique work for the likes of Choi, Penasa and Benoot for now
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Fabianski |
Posted on 05-09-2022 14:53
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Really like your commitment to Mexican cycling Good to see that Galvan Ramirez will continue the Mexican stage racer tradition - should be the perfect domestique, or even a secondary leader in CT I guess. And I think sooner or later Mexico should get a potential world-beater if you keep holding onto your commitment - I mean, if Lithuania can get one, any nation can get one
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Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 05-09-2022 19:57
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Nemolito wrote:
@U.U.: The sponsor understood skipping the Tour of America when not having the right riders for it and knowing it could make the difference between promoting to PT or not, where I could help even more in making Mexican cycling great again Definitely loved the route and loved to report on it, and hope to be able to report it again this season, with McCormick there as well of course.
Good to have sponsors who see the big picture and it was clearly the right call.
Looking forward to this year's ToA.
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