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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:19
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Class of 2022?
Who are the best available riders that could be drafted this year. Well, let's sort the DB by OVL and take a look at the puncheurs and sprinters that top the list.
| | FL | MO | HI | TT | ST | RS | RC | CO | SP | AC | XP | Age | OVL |  GBR | J. McEvoy | 69 | 63 | 75 | 64 | 74 | 69 | 69 | 64 | 74 | 78 | Max | 33 | 74.7 |  BUL | D. Lilovski | 68 | 67 | 77 | 66 | 70 | 70 | 73 | 54 | 65 | 73 | Max | 27 | 73.8 |  JPN | W. Mutsumine | 69 | 69 | 77 | 64 | 73 | 70 | 68 | 58 | 63 | 71 | Max | 30 | 73.7 |  LTU | E. Siskevicius | 68 | 71 | 76 | 63 | 70 | 69 | 63 | 50 | 69 | 72 | Max | 34 | 73.7 |  VEN | F. Besada | 68 | 63 | 77 | 54 | 74 | 74 | 64 | 58 | 56 | 77 | Max | 31 | 73.6 |  SLO | J. Bostner | 66 | 74 | 75 | 65 | 68 | 69 | 68 | 56 | 63 | 74 | Max | 32 | 73.5 |  ITA | A. Palini | 68 | 69 | 77 | 65 | 73 | 66 | 67 | 53 | 67 | 72 | Max | 33 | 73.5 |  BEL | E. Lietaer | 70 | 67 | 76 | 59 | 74 | 71 | 70 | 67 | 66 | 71 | Max | 32 | 73.5 |  RUS | R. Maksimov | 69 | 50 | 57 | 66 | 65 | 64 | 68 | 55 | 78 | 79 | Max | 34 | 73.5 | | ITA | M. Pelucchi | 73 | 55 | 67 | 64 | 72 | 68 | 73 | 61 | 78 | 75 | Max | 33 | 73.4 |  KOR | H. Jung | 66 | 67 | 77 | 60 | 72 | 72 | 69 | 64 | 63 | 71 | Max | 27 | 73.4 |  LAT | S. Eislers | 74 | 64 | 72 | 60 | 71 | 68 | 74 | 62 | 76 | 75 | Max | 29 | 73.4 |  LUX | S. Fritsch | 72 | 67 | 76 | 65 | 74 | 68 | 71 | 61 | 68 | 71 | Max | 28 | 73.4 |  NED | M. Schreurs | 67 | 66 | 78 | 64 | 71 | 67 | 66 | 59 | 68 | 69 | Max | 34 | 73.3 |  ISR | N. Cohen | 73 | 60 | 65 | 57 | 71 | 69 | 77 | 57 | 77 | 76 | Max | 32 | 73.3 |  USA | D. Holloway | 74 | 58 | 65 | 67 | 71 | 71 | 72 | 61 | 76 | 76 | Max | 35 | 73.3 |  PHI | M. Felipe | 73 | 65 | 72 | 68 | 68 | 69 | 68 | 65 | 74 | 75 | Max | 32 | 73.2 | | NED | J. Meijers | 69 | 64 | 76 | 67 | 74 | 73 | 72 | 61 | 59 | 74 | Max | 29 | 73.2 |  BRA | C. Manarelli | 71 | 52 | 58 | 56 | 69 | 63 | 71 | 60 | 78 | 77 | Max | 33 | 73.2 |  POR | L. Afonso | 68 | 66 | 77 | 58 | 75 | 73 | 70 | 52 | 57 | 70 | Max | 32 | 73.2 |
Edited by SportingNonsense on 30-08-2022 19:23
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| SotD |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:20
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I love these drafts. The amount of effort put into it is impressive.
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:21
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Some of those definitely were on my list, but by far not all, either. Will be interesting to see if Mutsumeme gets another ride this year 
However, what does that wage column mean? Max wage they ever got?
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| MacC |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:22
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Clear lack of climbers and TTers....
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| GregPeck |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:22
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Seeing that list makes me certain that I have aimed in the wrong direction... |
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:23
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GregPeck wrote:
Seeing that list makes me certain that I have aimed in the wrong direction...
What is "wrong"? Every rider that can help your team is the right one, whether he's on that list or not 
+1
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:24
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Fabianski wrote:
However, what does that wage column mean? Max wage they ever got?
Just means there's a column I wasn't updating, but had still copied into the post
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| GregPeck |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:25
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Fabianski wrote:
GregPeck wrote:
Seeing that list makes me certain that I have aimed in the wrong direction...
What is "wrong"? Every rider that can help your team is the right one, whether he's on that list or not
+1
Wrong is not having any riders near that skill on my list. I didn't need sprinters nor hill riders, so I went for a mixed bunch instead |
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| Imladrik |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:25
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GregPeck wrote:
Seeing that list makes me certain that I have aimed in the wrong direction...
Well, most are old, non-french 
Don't really remmeber who I picked (except one very old, maybe former star but I don't know MG history enough), but stayed in my extended nation-language list.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:26
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Class of 2022?
Maybe it's not all about OVL. Maybe you just want a high valued stat in a particular terrain - never mind if that riding is aging, one-dimensional, or both!
| | FL | MO | HI | TT | ST | RS | RC | CO | SP | AC | XP | Age | OVL |  AUT | S. Denifl | 64 | 78 | 70 | 66 | 66 | 62 | 67 | 50 | 60 | 56 | Max | 35 | 72.9 | | ITA | T. Costagli | 61 | 77 | 69 | 68 | 67 | 68 | 73 | 50 | 50 | 64 | Max | 34 | 73.1 |  COL | J. Pantano Gomez | 64 | 77 | 69 | 52 | 70 | 71 | 69 | 50 | 50 | 65 | Max | 34 | 72.7 | | LUX | B. Gastauer | 65 | 67 | 78 | 62 | 72 | 64 | 62 | 55 | 63 | 70 | Max | 35 | 72.6 | | GBR | A. Dowsett | 68 | 63 | 78 | 62 | 71 | 66 | 62 | 51 | 64 | 68 | Max | 34 | 72.4 |  FRA | S. Robert | 64 | 54 | 57 | 76 | 61 | 65 | 63 | 54 | 52 | 50 | Max | 34 | 69.6 |  TAN | R. Laizer | 69 | 51 | 57 | 76 | 68 | 69 | 67 | 67 | 64 | 68 | Max | 33 | 70.6 | | BEL | F. Nolf | 70 | 59 | 62 | 60 | 71 | 66 | 63 | 76 | 59 | 65 | Max | 35 | 71.6 | | BEL | K. Eeckhout | 71 | 54 | 60 | 53 | 69 | 69 | 59 | 76 | 63 | 55 | Max | 33 | 70.7 |  ESP | D. Ruiz | 71 | 58 | 60 | 56 | 76 | 72 | 63 | 75 | 58 | 58 | Max | 32 | 70.8 | | POR | O. Avelino | 67 | 50 | 60 | 53 | 64 | 60 | 68 | 60 | 79 | 72 | Max | 35 | 71.9 | | FRA | R. Vanderbiest | 71 | 61 | 61 | 64 | 69 | 64 | 76 | 55 | 79 | 72 | Max | 34 | 72.8 |  HUN | S. Szalontay | 69 | 51 | 52 | 67 | 64 | 65 | 71 | 62 | 78 | 77 | Max | 32 | 72.8 | | ITA | J. Guarnieri | 72 | 54 | 62 | 50 | 71 | 70 | 74 | 60 | 78 | 75 | Max | 35 | 73.1 |
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:27
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This is only the Punchers and Sprinters listed, doesn't mention Climbers/ Stage Racers/ TTers, Cobblers or Fighters.
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:29
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While I would have loved to get Costagli 2 years ago, I'm fortunately not really in need of a one-dimensional climber anymore (even released Manfredi during renewals). However, I still have one of those guys on my list
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| MacC |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:29
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sammyt93 wrote:
This is only the Punchers and Sprinters listed, doesn't mention Climbers/ Stage Racers/ TTers, Cobblers or Fighters.
You're right, sorry
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:29
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I'd be surprised if nobody takes a punt on Guarnieri, I thought about taking him to replace Pelucchi as my token Sprinter but he seemed more like a CT guy than PCT
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| SotD |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:30
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The OVL just show that sprinters are still overvalued, and need to be corrected, so wages of renewals and FA prices correspond better. It doesn’t mean they are actually the better riders :-)
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| MacC |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:31
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MacC wrote:
sammyt93 wrote:
This is only the Punchers and Sprinters listed, doesn't mention Climbers/ Stage Racers/ TTers, Cobblers or Fighters.
You're right, sorry
But wasn't that everybody ranked by OVL?
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:32
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SotD wrote:
The OVL just show that sprinters are still overvalued, and need to be corrected, so wages of renewals and FA prices correspond better. It doesn’t mean they are actually the better riders :-)
Absolutely. Way too many sprinters signing for 50k this year who probably asked for 120k+ during renewals... And Reinhardt for 75k was even ridiculous; unfortunately didn't have the budget to counter 
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| knockout |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:36
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MacC wrote:
MacC wrote:
sammyt93 wrote:
This is only the Punchers and Sprinters listed, doesn't mention Climbers/ Stage Racers/ TTers, Cobblers or Fighters.
You're right, sorry
But wasn't that everybody ranked by OVL?
Correct. The higher OVR climbers and TT guys were all picked already
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| MacC |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:43
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Ha! In case anybody is like em and waiting for the draft here it has actually started in thew Free Agents thread 
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 30-08-2022 19:47
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All of Molard, Puccioni and Piaskowy should do fine as domestiques. And Puccioni can also be used for quite some years to come. No "wtf" pick so far
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