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USA Pro Cycling Challenge


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The top sprinters in the CT have all travelled to the USA for the 2019 USA Pro Cycling Challenge! Three flat stages followed by a short epilogue will decide the winner here, but with bonus seconds for the top 10 finishers this should be a race for the fastmen.

The Sprinters

FLHILSTARESSPACCPRL
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gcn.png Mohs74647162828065
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/cen.png Guillen67616662818256
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/esc.png Thorsen60536154818371
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/mck.png Holloway78697777808271
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/bia.png Granjel Cabrera75697571807771
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/eue.png Moser72677369807972
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/epc.png Carsi70556669808271
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/nrh.png Perera71646973798074
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/epc.png Vingerling71627266797976
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gla.png Bennett71637468797957
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/cbx.png Suryadi71627268797664
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/ptm.png Young74697470787755
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/adr.png Boev72657467787871
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/ahe.png Canelon77576569788373
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/fca.png Porsev73656764787868
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/kul.png Tewelde74647572787767
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/cen.png Cisse74637367787765
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/fox.png Korzh74597365788068
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/jay.png Docker71676769787571
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/cbx.png Bogdanovics73627469787763
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/eue.png Fonseca74617468787764
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/duo.png Chen73627367787769
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/nvo.png Sobota72607465787867
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/cbx.png Keough72647167787571
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/vip.png Jones72606665787865
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gcn.png Szalontay69526465787770


The packed field here is headlined by pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gcn.png Mohs, as well as two one dimensional fastmen in pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/cen.png Guillen and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/esc.png Thorsen. More well rounded sprinters likely to challenge include home favourite pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/mck.png Holloway, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/bia.png Granjel Cabrera and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/eue.png Moser. Two wildcards to watch due to their high Prologue stats are pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/nrh.png Perera and
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/epc.png Vingerling, but with 26 78+ SP riders expect a great deal of unpredictability.

The Prologue Specialists

PRL
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gla.png Ford80
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/eue.png Robert79
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/kul.png Gretsch79
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gla.png Cruz78
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/phi.png Ligthart78
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/kof.png Olman78
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/cbx.png Van Baarle77
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gcn.png Bille77
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gla.png Downey77
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/ahe.png Marchewka77
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gla.png Sebright77
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/vip.png Kovalev77


With the closing Epilogue likely to have a major impact on the GC positions behind the top sprinters, it's no surprise that some of the top TTers in the division have made the trip Stateside as well. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gla.png Ford and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/eue.png Robert are the pick of the bunch, but being weaker Flat riders they could lose touch depending on how the flat stages are ridden, with pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/kul.png Gretsch, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/gla.png Cruz and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2019/Micros/phi.png Ligthart the best of the more well rounded TTers.

Startlist

Spoiler
First nameLast nameTeam
HersonyCanelonAdastra - Hell Energy Cycling
MaxLoschAdastra - Hell Energy Cycling
TroelsVintherAdastra - Hell Energy Cycling
TomThillAdastra - Hell Energy Cycling
KrzysztofMarchewkaAdastra - Hell Energy Cycling
HidetoNakaneAdastra - Hell Energy Cycling
ValentinStoenchevAdastra - Hell Energy Cycling
AlexanderCowanAdastra - Hell Energy Cycling
IgorBoevAdriatic Kontinentalna Selekcija
KevinRezaAdriatic Kontinentalna Selekcija
RasmusMygindAdriatic Kontinentalna Selekcija
ChristophPfingstenAdriatic Kontinentalna Selekcija
GediminasKaupasAdriatic Kontinentalna Selekcija
GijsVan HoeckeAdriatic Kontinentalna Selekcija
TilenFinkstAdriatic Kontinentalna Selekcija
DavurMagnussenAdriatic Kontinentalna Selekcija
RaulGranjel CabreraBianchi - Campagnolo
GertDockxBianchi - Campagnolo
StefanoPirazziBianchi - Campagnolo
RomainHardyBianchi - Campagnolo
MichaelStorerBianchi - Campagnolo
DmitryStrakhovBianchi - Campagnolo
CristianScaroniBianchi - Campagnolo
EdwardRavasiBianchi - Campagnolo
ChristopheLaporteCarrefour - ESPN
KevinFeiereisenCarrefour - ESPN
PetrIgnatenkoCarrefour - ESPN
PatrickBerczCarrefour - ESPN
DanielSchornCarrefour - ESPN
DamienGaudinCarrefour - ESPN
Jan DragoPetelinCarrefour - ESPN
AlanBanaszekCarrefour - ESPN
MarcoGuillenCentovalli - Fiat
IssiakaCisseCentovalli - Fiat
ManuelStockerCentovalli - Fiat
MaximilianWalscheidCentovalli - Fiat
PatrickGamperCentovalli - Fiat
PascalEenkhoornCentovalli - Fiat
RiccardoMinaliCentovalli - Fiat
AlessandroFedeliCentovalli - Fiat
DylanVan BaarleCYBEX Platinum
BambangSuryadiCYBEX Platinum
MarisBogdanovicsCYBEX Platinum
KirillPozdnyakovCYBEX Platinum
JakeKeoughCYBEX Platinum
SimonGeschkeCYBEX Platinum
ErminVan WykCYBEX Platinum
AaronGrosserCYBEX Platinum
LibinChenDuolingo
ShaneArchboldDuolingo
TimMerlierDuolingo
RuiOliveiraDuolingo
RodrigoNascimentoDuolingo
NikitaRazumovDuolingo
EdoardoAffiniDuolingo
MarkusKopfaufDuolingo
DavideCimolaiEddie Stobart
DanielThorsenEddie Stobart
GertJoeaarEddie Stobart
EmilAnderssonEddie Stobart
PavelSivakovEddie Stobart
DanielRuizEddie Stobart
NeilVan der PloegEddie Stobart
DanielSaviniEddie Stobart
MichaelVingerlingEquinor Pro Cycling
MustafaCarsiEquinor Pro Cycling
DanieleRattoEquinor Pro Cycling
SuleimanKangangiEquinor Pro Cycling
RomeoQuicibalEquinor Pro Cycling
AlainQuispeEquinor Pro Cycling
SyverWaerstedEquinor Pro Cycling
StepanKurianovEquinor Pro Cycling
MorenoMoserEuskaltel - Elior
StellyRobertEuskaltel - Elior
ArmindoFonsecaEuskaltel - Elior
FabioJakobsenEuskaltel - Elior
Maral-ErdeneBatmunkhEuskaltel - Elior
MohammedAl MurawwiEuskaltel - Elior
JaimeCastrilloEuskaltel - Elior
Mohamad Izzat HilmiAbdul HalilEuskaltel - Elior
AlexanderPorsevFestina-Canal+
AndreaPasqualonFestina-Canal+
AbdelkaderBelmokhtarFestina-Canal+
IgnasKonovalovasFestina-Canal+
GotonMebrahtuFestina-Canal+
BereketYemaneFestina-Canal+
Jasperde LaatFestina-Canal+
MarcoMathisFestina-Canal+
PavelKorzhFox News - Flat Earth Society
AlexHowesFox News - Flat Earth Society
ChristopherButlerFox News - Flat Earth Society
CesarRojas VillegasFox News - Flat Earth Society
TravisMcCabeFox News - Flat Earth Society
DonaldMukajFox News - Flat Earth Society
NathanWilsonFox News - Flat Earth Society
AlexeyVermeulenFox News - Flat Earth Society
ErikMohsGCN ProTeam
DanMcLayGCN ProTeam
GaetanBilleGCN ProTeam
MichaelCumingGCN ProTeam
GeoffroyNgandambaGCN ProTeam
SandorSzalontayGCN ProTeam
StefKrulGCN ProTeam
MichaelO'LoughlinGCN ProTeam
SamBennettGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
MichaelFordGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
FreddyCruzGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
SeanDowneyGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
IanRichardsonGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
AggreySebrightGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
AdamPetrie-ArmstrongGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
BenO'ConnorGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
MitchDockerJayco - Mitchelton
KritsadaChangpadJayco - Mitchelton
AaronGateJayco - Mitchelton
HamishBondJayco - Mitchelton
ChrisHarperJayco - Mitchelton
AndreasMiltiadisJayco - Mitchelton
EoinMcCarthyJayco - Mitchelton
AlexanderPorterJayco - Mitchelton
NazirJaserKofola
JelleWallaysKofola
RomanKreuzigerKofola
MilesOlmanKofola
Elias AbouRachidKofola
JanCullyKofola
JurajBellanKofola
AdrianBabicKofola
JempyDruckerKulczyk - Alitalia
JaniTeweldeKulczyk - Alitalia
TonyMartinKulczyk - Alitalia
PatrickGretschKulczyk - Alitalia
PolychronisTzortzakisKulczyk - Alitalia
KamilGradekKulczyk - Alitalia
CristianCominelliKulczyk - Alitalia
ErykLatonKulczyk - Alitalia
PhilipLindauLa Vie Claire
AdrienNiyonshutiLa Vie Claire
StaffanArvidssonLa Vie Claire
DraganNikolcevicLa Vie Claire
LorenzoDelcoLa Vie Claire
XandroMeurisseLa Vie Claire
Jan-Willemvan SchipLa Vie Claire
DanHollowayMcCormick Pro Cycling
ZigaGroseljMcCormick Pro Cycling
RobertSweetingMcCormick Pro Cycling
MateoFrankovicMcCormick Pro Cycling
PhillipGaimonMcCormick Pro Cycling
Nipuna ShiraManamalageMcCormick Pro Cycling
EthanWeissMcCormick Pro Cycling
ConnorMcCutcheonMcCormick Pro Cycling
GuillaumeVan KeirsbulckNENT Racing p/b Hootsuite
MadushankaPereraNENT Racing p/b Hootsuite
BoyVan PoppelNENT Racing p/b Hootsuite
KristijanDurasekNENT Racing p/b Hootsuite
GatisSmukulisNENT Racing p/b Hootsuite
SamuelCoronelNENT Racing p/b Hootsuite
MamyrStashNENT Racing p/b Hootsuite
JamesFoucheNENT Racing p/b Hootsuite
KristianSobotaNetia - Vonin
TorkilVeyheNetia - Vonin
SzymonRekitaNetia - Vonin
PawelFranczakNetia - Vonin
NicolayCherkasovNetia - Vonin
KamilMaleckiNetia - Vonin
Joanis AlbertNielsenNetia - Vonin
EricYoungOMV Petrom-albania.al
MarcoCanolaOMV Petrom-albania.al
CsabaPalyiOMV Petrom-albania.al
ManuelBetilsonOMV Petrom-Albania.al
JordiMajoralOMV Petrom-albania.al
BenjaminBrkicOMV Petrom-albania.al
EmilDimaOMV Petrom-albania.al
OnurBalkanOMV Petrom-Albania.al
RonanVan ZandbeekPhilips
PimLigthartPhilips
KevinInkelaarPhilips
ThomasBoudatPhilips
RyanGibbonsPhilips
PietAllegaertPhilips
AurelienParet-PeintrePhilips
JonasBokelohPhilips
BrentonJonesVIP Mobile
DmitriGrabovskiVIP Mobile
Michael FaerkChristensenVIP Mobile
IvanKovalevVIP Mobile
John BoscoKivumbiVIP Mobile
GoranAntonijevicVIP Mobile
LukaPajekVIP Mobile
NickBainVIP Mobile
 
Luis Leon Sanchez
We’ve got a very capable squad here so hoping for something good from Robert and Moser!
 
Ollfardh
Homerace for Fox News, let's make it count!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Fabianski
Well, of course hoping for Guillén to bring home some good results. We've already shown that the train with Stocker - Cissé - Guillén works pretty well, so the hopes are high. Even though we know that Guillén often performs quite unpredictably.
 
ivaneurope
After the disaster that was Vilnius GP for us, I don't expect much.
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jandal7
Let's go Pim Ligthart!
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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Ulrich Ulriksen
The most important race of the season for McCormick. Starts in our sponsor's home town and is a win goal. So not time for Holloway to have an off week.

I pretty much recruited him with this race in mind. Hopefully either the 238k in the first stage or the hills in stage 3 are enough to split the pack and shred some of the one dimensional sprinters. If that happens the huge sprint field is less of a worry because some of them should be minutes behind.

Then he needs to perform reasonably in the TT.

The best team McCormick can field backing up Holloway. I am optimistic the game will identify him as a favorite which should keep him well positioned. Granjel Cabrera probably worries me the most (and just noticed Canelon), reasonable secondary stats and good prolouge. The other worry is a late attack in stage 1 or 3 and one or more of the rouleurs getting a time gap. On the other hand I would like to see some failed attacks to ramp up the pace and help to split things up. Holloway doesn't need a lead out but the team needs to be there to close gaps in the last 5-15k.

Things will be a lot clearer after stage 1. As an aside Baltimore to Annapolis is 50k direct - to make it 238k must require quite the route. Thanks for the preview.
Man Game: McCormick Pro Cycling
 
redordead
This is course wise a very good race for our amateurs to try and grab some more results.

We have Brenton Jones for the sprints, Kovalev and Christensen can both target the time-trial and pretty much everyone apart from young Pajek is a capable rouleur to fight for the flatter KOM's or try for an upset breakaway stage win Smile

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"I am a cyclist, I may not be the best, but that is what I strive to be. I may never get there, but I will never quit trying." - Tadej Pogačar
 
AbhishekLFC
Hey, we're here. Not sure why? Pfft

Given this season's evidence, I doubt Ligthart makes it to the finish with the peloton on all three stages before the Epilogue. Let's hope he can prove me wrong. Van Zandbeek is also here, while the rest are only for XP purposes.
 
Fabianski
Well, looks like we had a great train once again, but Guillén's low support stats probably came into play after such a long stage. Not great, but at least all three sprinters took some bonus seconds today. Please, let's improve on this tomorrow!

And a note to myself: Sprint train should be kept at all costs, but the sprinter has to be replaced. Which will surely happen, as a declining Guillén definitely shouldn't be our leader next year.
 
Luis Leon Sanchez
16th from Moser is nothing less than disgraceful... He should be comfortably in the Top 5 every stage here.
 
Ulrich Ulriksen
Not great, not a disaster. Dropped Holloway off too early, the split from Weiss was a problem - lesser sprinters would have cratered to 10th though. I can live with 3rd.

Hopefully he will more consistent than the others. But would really have liked to see some time gaps to reduce the field a little.

I would say thanks for the report except for that outrageous swipe at Baltimore in the intro:

(1) Baltimore had a team stolen from it long before Cleveland
(2) Baltimore repeatedly put forward a strong expansion bid but were screwed by the NFL for "sexier" cities like Jacksonville despite the fact Baltimore had a much stronger tradition as a pro football town. I am pretty sure if we surveyed 1000 NFL fans today 90% of them who don't live in Jacksoville would rather have a team in Baltimore. I feel for Cleveland but the NFL left Baltimore no choice.
(3) Unlike when Baltimore lost their team the NFL went out of their way to make it good for Cleveland.
Man Game: McCormick Pro Cycling
 
cio93
Why argue in depth when you could just say "Lamar Jackson." and win? Pfft
 
Ulrich Ulriksen
OK, I'll go with that "Lamar Jackson"
Man Game: McCormick Pro Cycling
 
jph27
Ulrich Ulriksen wrote:
Not great, not a disaster. Dropped Holloway off too early, the split from Weiss was a problem - lesser sprinters would have cratered to 10th though. I can live with 3rd.

Hopefully he will more consistent than the others. But would really have liked to see some time gaps to reduce the field a little.

I would say thanks for the report except for that outrageous swipe at Baltimore in the intro:

(1) Baltimore had a team stolen from it long before Cleveland
(2) Baltimore repeatedly put forward a strong expansion bid but were screwed by the NFL for "sexier" cities like Jacksonville despite the fact Baltimore had a much stronger tradition as a pro football town. I am pretty sure if we surveyed 1000 NFL fans today 90% of them who don't live in Jacksoville would rather have a team in Baltimore. I feel for Cleveland but the NFL left Baltimore no choice.
(3) Unlike when Baltimore lost their team the NFL went out of their way to make it good for Cleveland.


These are all fair points, but as a Browns fan I'm obliged to bring it up every time Baltimore is mentioned Pfft

Plus, as cio points out, as soon as we get to football you've comfortably won the argument Pfft
 
Gustavovskiy
It's going to be a tough race for us with Chen avoiding the final sprint altogether like this.
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AbhishekLFC
Ligthart is not in the results. Missed it yesterday
 
AbhishekLFC
AbhishekLFC wrote:
Ligthart is not in the results. Missed it yesterday

I think he was omitted because of the >77 PCT TT rider entered in a C2 race, which is my fault. By that logic, there's another 79 TT rider who shouldn't be in the race either I think, but is still there.
 
jph27
AbhishekLFC wrote:
AbhishekLFC wrote:
Ligthart is not in the results. Missed it yesterday

I think he was omitted because of the 77 PCT TT rider entered in a C2 race, which is my fault. By that logic, there's another 79 TT rider who shouldn't be in the race either I think, but is still there.


That would be it - the confusion was as the participation file I used to write the preview had Ligthart in it, although the startlist didn't.

Gretsch is 77TT so is eligible despite his 79 PRL, which is probably something that needs to be looked at for next season if we continue with the same C2 eligibility rules. As the rules currently stand I believe Chavanne could have been entered here for example, despite being one of the best prologue riders full stop.
 
AbhishekLFC
jph27 wrote:
AbhishekLFC wrote:
AbhishekLFC wrote:
Ligthart is not in the results. Missed it yesterday

I think he was omitted because of the 77 PCT TT rider entered in a C2 race, which is my fault. By that logic, there's another 79 TT rider who shouldn't be in the race either I think, but is still there.


That would be it - the confusion was as the participation file I used to write the preview had Ligthart in it, although the startlist didn't.

Gretsch is 77TT so is eligible despite his 79 PRL, which is probably something that needs to be looked at for next season if we continue with the same C2 eligibility rules. As the rules currently stand I believe Chavanne could have been entered here for example, despite being one of the best prologue riders full stop.

Fair enough.
 
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