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PCM.daily Stat Discussion
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 28-07-2019 13:27
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And more FL, argued it before but I think it does need to happen now.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 28-07-2019 14:22
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Thanks for all the comments and this what the leading mtn riders for the Tour who at least prepared for the GC/dom will look like in the post Tour update. This was hard as some riders didn't perform and some got decreased while others survived with their pre-Tour stats (gut instinct). These stats are not final so any suggestions welcome.
Bernal 81/76-77
Pinot 81/78
Bardet 80/78
Landa 80/78
Thomas 80/77
Buchmann 80/77
Kruijswijk 80/76
Quintana 80/76 (low res)
Fuglsang 79/80
Uran 79/78
Porte 79/78
Poels 79/78
Valverde 78/81 (will feel higher)
Martin 78/79
Gaadu 78/78 (low res)
Barguil 78/76
De Plus 77-78/76 (high res)
Alaphilippe 77/82 (with all his stats will feel like 79)
The Yates brothers are a real problem with their 81 and 80 mtn the problem is inconsistency and you never know what to expect with them the only certainty is that Simon is better than Adam. Unless there is a good suggestion will keep them at these stats.
Kamna will be 75/74 and Van Aert has more flat and TT, his TT is 75/76
Edited by Tafiolmo on 28-07-2019 15:38
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| Agent David |
Posted on 28-07-2019 15:18
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These stats are very good!  Also, I would keep Yates brothers at their current MTN stat, Simon's last year was absolutely 81 and Adam's spring was 80 too.
And can I ask for van Aert's SPR/ACC stats? I'd suggest something like 76/79 + I'd give him 76 HILL and 77/78 FLAT, as Ollfardh suggested before.
Kreuziger should stay on 77/78 or have 76/78 and he should have a bit lower TT and a lot better FLAT.
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 28-07-2019 20:52
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Ewan 81 and Groenewegen 81 too?? |
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| Naskela |
Posted on 28-07-2019 21:15
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Tafiolmo wrote:
Thanks for all the comments and this what the leading mtn riders for the Tour who at least prepared for the GC/dom will look like in the post Tour update. This was hard as some riders didn't perform and some got decreased while others survived with their pre-Tour stats (gut instinct). These stats are not final so any suggestions welcome.
Bernal 81/76-77
Pinot 81/78
Bardet 80/78
Landa 80/78
Thomas 80/77
Buchmann 80/77
Kruijswijk 80/76
Quintana 80/76 (low res)
Fuglsang 79/80
Uran 79/78
Porte 79/78
Poels 79/78
Valverde 78/81 (will feel higher)
Martin 78/79
Gaadu 78/78 (low res)
Barguil 78/76
De Plus 77-78/76 (high res)
Alaphilippe 77/82 (with all his stats will feel like 79)
The Yates brothers are a real problem with their 81 and 80 mtn the problem is inconsistency and you never know what to expect with them the only certainty is that Simon is better than Adam. Unless there is a good suggestion will keep them at these stats.
Kamna will be 75/74 and Van Aert has more flat and TT, his TT is 75/76
How is Froome (81/77?), Carapaz (80/? ?), Dumoulin (80/? ?) and Roglic (79/77?) going to end up in there? Both Froome and Carapaz should have some of the highest rec
Edited by Naskela on 28-07-2019 21:22
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 28-07-2019 22:00
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AD; Yes will keep the Yates brothers as they are for now they just have a bit reduced TT. Kreuziger will be 76/78 based on his performance in hill at the last Worlds
Aizak: With three wins Ewan the best sprinter at the Tour so we will need to improve him more but he's not easy to do because despite looking and acting like a natural sprinter as he has some characteristics of a power sprinter as well.
Naskela: No change to Froome who is 82 mtn and Carapaz 80 and both have some of the best rec among GT riders, Tom D still has 80 and Roglic 79
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| dns |
Posted on 29-07-2019 11:35
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Do you know, when the Stats-update will be released?
Will there also be a fix for other known bugs like the season planner / calender bug, the u23 calendar bug, Tour of Cartier - Stage 4 Alanya - Alanya crash, same at Gravel Tar, region bug isle of man and Lotto Soudal not taking part in belgian NC bug?
All the bugs where explained in the DB Support/FAQ Thread. |
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| Agent David |
Posted on 29-07-2019 11:41
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Tafiolmo wrote:
AD; Yes will keep the Yates brothers as they are for now they just have a bit reduced TT. Kreuziger will be 76/78 based on his performance in hill at the last Worlds
Thanks, I agree. What about van Aert's sprint?
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| provo |
Posted on 29-07-2019 19:50
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Think Mühlberger deserve a little improvement.
He showed especially in the alps a very strong performance (like De Plus)
12. Iseran (with Porte), Val Thorens 12, closing gaps to Thomas/Kruijswijk.
Third Place on the 12. Stage (Toulouse - Bagneres-de-Bigorre).
Maybe 76/77 with high res and rec ?
No changing for the other austrians, Konrad hurts his ribs after a fall in the first week and Pöstlberger did nothing special neither neg. or pos. |
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 30-07-2019 10:54
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dns wrote:
Do you know, when the Stats-update will be released?
Will there also be a fix for other known bugs like the season planner / calender bug, the u23 calendar bug, Tour of Cartier - Stage 4 Alanya - Alanya crash, same at Gravel Tar, region bug isle of man and Lotto Soudal not taking part in belgian NC bug?
All the bugs where explained in the DB Support/FAQ Thread.
Yes pleae, fix it ! ! ! |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 30-07-2019 21:03
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Dns-Will pass the bugs onto the team members that can deal with that and hopefully we can let all know shortly when it will be released as the stats are mostly done.
AD-Van Aert sprint is going to be 76/79
Provo- Muhlberger is 75/75 now in mtn.
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| dns |
Posted on 31-07-2019 08:18
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Tafiolmo wrote:
Dns-Will pass the bugs onto the team members that can deal with that and hopefully we can let all know shortly when it will be released as the stats are mostly done.
That sounds great! I'm looking forward for the update and thank you very much for your amazing work! |
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| Peter88 |
Posted on 05-08-2019 00:12
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Is a version of the DB with post-TDF notes planned? If so, when will it happen? |
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| dns |
Posted on 05-08-2019 08:36
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Peter88 wrote:
Is a version of the DB with post-TDF notes planned? If so, when will it happen?
Look at the last answers, there you can see that a last update is still in work.
Can someone tell us, when the update will be ready?
I am waiting eagerly for it, to start a new career. |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 05-08-2019 09:10
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Update should be out very shortly and just waiting for a response for a few things. Also all WT stats up to date as of yesterday.
Only rider that no update has been done for yet is Remco who I could do with some suggestions for, as a reminder this is what he is before San Sebastian and the question is could he win with these stats?
Mtn 73
Hill 74
Cob 66
Fla 76
Spr 68
Acc 75
TT 73
Pro 74
Sta 73
Res 77
Rec 68
Dhi 68
Fig 76
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| dns |
Posted on 05-08-2019 09:27
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Tafiolmo wrote:
Update should be out very shortly and just waiting for a response for a few things. Also all WT stats up to date as of yesterday.
Only rider that no update has been done for yet is Remco who I could do with some suggestions for, as a reminder this is what he is before San Sebastian and the question is could he win with these stats?
Mtn 73
Hill 74
Cob 66
Fla 76
Spr 68
Acc 75
TT 73
Pro 74
Sta 73
Res 77
Rec 68
Dhi 68
Fig 76
This news sound great, im looking forward for the update! Amazing work, as always! Hopefully the reported bugs are also fixed!?
I think these stats are OK for Remco Evenepoel.
I didn't expect him that strong, but he still has a lot of pontential, in real life, but also in the game. In summer he should be +1 or +2, so he might be able to win San Sebastian. |
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| purepasd |
Posted on 05-08-2019 10:31
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I don't believe those stats are good enough for Remco. He has been performing so consistently and in such style, going solo. On top he had a mechanical in San Sebastian. I'd say at least 76 hill as a start, and maybe even more RES. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 05-08-2019 10:38
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purepasd wrote:
I don't believe those stats are good enough for Remco. He has been performing so consistently and in such style, going solo. On top he had a mechanical in San Sebastian. I'd say at least 76 hill as a start, and maybe even more RES.
I disagree. Evenepoel has not been consistent this season. Also he has shown that he is not that great going over hills. Remember he got dropped on the penultimate climb at CSS with 30-40 riders left in the pack. He didn't win the race by hill ability, he survived the hills and won this race (as the races before) by putting down incredible power on the lumpy parts. That said, I think Evenepoel needs to have good flat and an awesome RES engine to draw his stats best. He's already one of the best in surviving efforts once he's gone. However, he's not an elite puncheur (yet).
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 05-08-2019 10:52
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Ok so if we concentrate on flat and res we could be talking 76 or 77 flat and 77 to 78 res? Didn't notice his DH as was shocked at the performance in general to notice this. Also his STA will be upped as well as this was 226 km race.
Edited by Tafiolmo on 05-08-2019 11:20
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| Peter88 |
Posted on 05-08-2019 11:00
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Perfect if the DB will be out soon! An estimate in days of what does it mean to you? (I ask because I want to start a project soon and if it happens very soon I can wait a day or two, not much more). Thank you in advance for your response and congratulations for your huge work. |
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